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Quote: i really could rant for an hour on this topic. Roll Eyes but i will try and keep it to a low roar... (pardon the spelling, i am a horrable speller) america, land of the free. what a joke. i mean come on. opressing homosexuality and calling it freedom? Is homosexuality the new ****** ?(pardon the use of language but it is needed to show inphasis here, i am completely against raceism, but i needed the word to make a compairison) are the laws against it the new 'Jim Crow' laws? i mean, in virginia, sodemy is illeagle, even between husband and wife, and even if it is consentual, you can get up to 5 years in prision for it. eek what ever happend to the sepperation of church and state? hwy is the government still makeing laws based on their religious beliefs and not based on what is right? it just goes to show you that america truely is not the right way to govern its people because there are too few people in power that actually know what is going on in every day life. i mean, every a** hole on the seat of power is born from money with a silver passafyer in their a**, and has never had to work an honest day's labor, and half of them have probably never had to go to the storte and buy their own groceries. are these the right people to be running a country? the ones that can buy their way into power, and not letting the system work the waty it was designed? if america would put middle-upper middle clas people in power, then i can garentee this would not be happening, because: 1) middle class people have been there. they have seen what is going on in the real world and know what to do to make things flow right, instead of just looking down on the world from their cloud, and makkeing laws based on a mathmatical formula. (yes, there are political scientists that cram numbers all day long and base sugestions on makeing a law based on what they think is the highest probability of solveing the problem, and lowering numbers with out looking into the reason why the problem started in the first place) :Roll: 2) if middle class people go to church it is because they truely believe, and not because they are there to be seen. ever seen george bush in chruch? he sits there looking like he is bored out of his mind, looking at his watch every 2 seconds. he is there to be seen, so the voters see him there and say "he is a man of god, lets vote for him." they do it because 90% of america believes in a higher power, and it is a political manuver to pull votes. and that is all. look at any politician who goes to church when you see them in the mass, and you will notice they all tend to act like george bush. (makes me glad i am an athiest and an anarchist) 3) they would hold to the original design of the constitution -a) freedom of speech, petition, religion, press and assembally. under this the first amendment, (in the bill of rights) gives us the right to be gay if we so choose, yet it is translated another way by high dollar lawyers, to find a loop hole in the topic, and the supreem court just thinks it immoral becauuse they are old basterds, and are stuck in the old way of thinking. SOCIETY CHANGES! GET USE TO IT YOU OLD ********! i mean, look at how african americans were treeted even after they got their freedom, and right to vote (goes back to gays being the new N!**#r)it took the law how long to get over the fact that seperat is not always equil, and that it was wrong? and religion in the first amendment as well. -RELIGION. who's saying that if i have the right to choose my religion, my religion and my religion is acceptant to homosexuality, then why are you refuseing to allow me to mary the man/boy i love? is that not takeing away my freedom? -freedom of speech - speech is not always verbal, body language and actions are defined as speech. so if i am "saying" that i love a man, by kissing him in public, then how the hell can i be arrested for disturbing the peace? is that not impending on my freedom of speech? -assembally- if i want to get to gether with a bunch of my friends and just be my self, and the police tell me to break it up because we are more the a group of three, and can be considered a gang, why are they useiung that against me when i am with a bunch of my friends because we are all gay, and another group can walk right past us, larger then our group and the cops say nothing to them? that is takeing my "freedom: there as well. -b) pleading the fith - if a woman can plea the fith inorder to not incriminate her husbqnd on trial, becaause she is married to him, and a boyfriend can plea the fith as not to incriminate his girlfriend if she is on teial, then why can a boyfriend not plea the fith as not to incriminate his boyfriend. (i spent 7 days in jail over this topic, well... juvy...Sweatdrop i was asked to testify against a friend, and i told the court i would not testify against him, and the court threatedned to hit me with charges of hindering a fedral investigation. then i laughed and plead the fith. the judge looked right at me and said, i have no right to plea the fith, because i would not be incriminateing my self. i told him that i would be incriminateing one i lobved, and called my frined, my "boyfriend" lol, it shocked the hell out of my friend, but he went with it, and i held to it, and still got 7 days for withholding info from a fed investigatiuon. but in the end my friend was released of the charges) -c) AMENDMENT IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be con- strued to deny or disparage others retained by the people. (in other words the constitution is not limited to just those rights, we have more even tho the constitution dose not spacifically say it) thus are they takeing away my rights there to be who i am, because they are predfjudice against it? OK I AM SHUTTING UP NOW! i said i would keep it short, but here i am writeing a book. Sweatdrop i'll keep my input limited to shorter replies in the future.
MastaVern Kiyae me likey, though I would like to point out that there are several dozen senators and representatives who were not born "with a silver passafyer [sic] in their a**". Some of them republican. Also, I am quite certain that most sodomy laws (specifically those that prohibit consensual sodomy) were stricken down in 2001 by SCOTUS in Lawrence v Texas, though I cannot account for all sodomy laws. Also, the 1st amend prohibits making laws etabishing or respecting one religion or the other, not simply making laws based on church doctrine, or laws that coincide with church doctrine. So, there's a line there. Sodomy would not actually be the gov't tipping it's hat at say, the Catholics. Also, I'm pretty sure everybody looks bored in church. They all look at their watches every 2 seconds, further, the fifth only applies to people you have a legally recognized privilige with, that would not include bfs/gfs, only spouses, doctors, lawyers, and immediate blood relatives. It does not hold "love" to be a requisite, as a judge and lawyer cannot determine love accurately. Also, you were risking perjury for lying about how he was your bf. Which for the record is something like 5-20 years in jail and a 10000$ fine... the 1st does not give you the right to be gay, in any way, shape, or form, marriage can only be restricted by the church perfomring the marriage (the ceremonial marriage- not requisite to be married) and the state (marriage license, has nothing to do with religion) finally, kissing someone in public is PDI, not protected by the 1st, that's why you can't kiss a guy in public. I'll do a lil more critique later maybe, but for now, that's all I gots. Love ya masta! heart 1) senitors and representitives. - if they were not then they had the financial backing of someone who was, and thus is in that person's pocket, and thus is nothing more then a puppet to the money. 2)that is an indavidual state basis, not all sodemy laws have been stricken down, i mean look at wyoming. there is a law still on the books that says if you see more then 5 native americans in a group walking down the street, you can shoot them because it is considered a war party. confused so you can not base all states of the ruleing of one state. first amendment is as it says, it is not as the lawyers are paied to decide to rip it appart. that is the problem with the constitution now a days, it has too many strings attached to it because people pay high dollar for high dollar lawyers and language experts to pick it appart inorder to find loopholes, and other connections to tie incidents into. not everyone lookess bored in church. you find someone who is in the holy spirit, and you will see someone who is attentive, and revrent, oblivious to time as the surmon goes on. so dont give me that line. the people who are bored only go to church to be seen, given the chance, and had it been an option in their up bringing, they would not attend services if they thought it to be boreing. yet, being that it was one of thos things, expecially in the cathloc religion, where you have the illusion of "YOUR DAMNED TO HELL if you dont go to church, something bad will happen if you dont attend church" bla bla bla... the fith is one of those laws that can be read in many ways, "nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself" if love is seeing 2 people as one, then love is a binding thing, and can not be used and subjugated to being left to just people who are in a leagley binding relationship such as marrage. just like friendship. all my friends are a part of me, so would i have to testify against them if time and circumstances came to do so? and no i would not face purgery charges because as i said it, it was ment literally. he was a boy and he was my friend. if the judge took it another way then that is his problem. i left it to interpritation, and that alone has many loopholes, and the ncharge would not have stuck. xp the first dose give you the right due to it being the amendment that lays out the main freedome. if i want to "speek the words of marrage, and have them be held truthfull, then the government can not stand in the way of that freedom. it also goes ibnto the thin lines of "life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness, is the gov't goint to take that away from me as well? (not in the constitution i know, butnit was in the declaration oof indapendance, thus the foundation of the beginning of the country, takeing that from me as well? why not wipe out a bunch of history they dont like while they are at it? PDI? it s a disturbance of the peace, and it is an expression of affection, thus termed speeking, the freedom of speech, and is protecdted by the constitution weather it is upheld and recconised or not, the fact remains it is there, and must be protected from prejudices. they use to say seperate but equil.... well if the gay comunity is seperate, and being treated as a seperate comunity, then why is it diffrent and not equil? are we not entitled tot he same rights as everyone else? Kiyae, you have started a discussion that can rage on for years. you know me, i am a stuborn fool, and i love to argue and debate. so if you wouuld like to try and play devils advocate with me, then please, be my guest. i'd love it.
MastaVern Kiyae 1)Senators and Reps can accept money from sources and not be in that person's pocket, they probably won't get money again, but it IS possible. Also, politics is based on money, maybe that will change, but right now, that's how it works. 2)Lawrence v. Texas went to the SCOTUS, which is an acronym for the Supreme Court of the United States. It applies to all states. And as far as I am aware, all state laws (and federal laws, though there were non I believe) prohibiting consensual homosexual (and heterosexual) sodomy were struck down. 3)I based my argument on what is called "court precedent" which means that is how the Supreme Court and other Federal courts interpret it. Otherwise one could consider walking into a movie theater screaming "FIRE" as a prank, as "free speech". Lawyers do not make the decisions in this case. And your refutation is total moot because it has zero basis in reality, and is in effect only crazed ramblings of a conspiracy-theorist. 4)Point taken, however, the original point was kinda stupid and objective (meaning he looks bored in YOUR opinion) 5)I'm going to have to restate that courts cannot determine what "love" is, so, the fifth is only there for your bodily protection. Not people you are in love with. However, SCOTUS has over the past 200+ years ruled that it also gives you spousal privilige, doctor patient privilige, and lawyer client privilige. However, you have to be LEGALLY MARRIED for spousal priviliges to kick in. Boyfriends and girlfriends are NOT legally married. Nor does a perjury charge or a contempt charge have to be upheld. It is usually just a court ruling on the spot (i.e. the judge says you're in contempt, you are, unless you wish to appeal.) Leaving it to interpretation is only going to annoy any jury or panel of appelate judges that review your case. Such a defense will never hold up, and you will probably be found guilty just to spite you. That kind of deceit is really underhanded and you should be ashamed of yourself. 6) You can "speak the words of marriage" all you want, that doesn't make you a married man. At least not in the eyes of the gov't. you can be religiously married and the gov't. doesn't have to give you any recognition, nor does anyone else. You don't seem to be catchiong on to this point easily. 7)Seperate but equal is going to get you thrown in jail or at least fined in this case. You disturbed the peace, communities have the right to say that you can't make out in public (be it heterosexual or homosexual) and you broke the law. The fact that it isn't applied to str8 couples and you were singled out doesn't really matter. Sorry, you lose here. Anyway, this is gonna be fun methinks... 1) point proven 2) i have done a bit more reaserch in to the laws, and yes L vs. Tx did strilke down all sodemy laws, which just goes to show what judges know. (had a judge back in 2k4 dismiss the charges of sodemy on me, and i was brought into court for "defileing a man's daughter" sweatdrop long story i shall avoid for now. ninja 3) wrong, who changes the ways a judge sees things in a case? or points out things to a judge to give him a better or diffrent opinion or way of looking at it. true the lawyer dose not make the changes, but they open the eyes to ways of seeing things, so that a judge may interprate it a diffrent way. thus reality stairing you right back in the face, not a therorist. 4) 3nodding 5) then it goes into how you define bodily protection. cases of heart break, and depression have been known to kill a person, thus if i did stand on trial could the guilt not have affected my well being in the long run? and how can i be held in contempt of the law when all are not equil under the eyes of the law as the law states that we are? if i cant plea the 5th because i am not married to them, because i could not leagally do so, then how is that equil under the law? 6) and once again i go back to equil under the law. how can hetrosexuals have rights that homosexuals do not/ where is the equality there? 7)comunities have the right to say you cant display affection in public, but they can not uphold it to one group and not another. that is impartial justice and against the law. once again equality is where again?
thats about the extent f the rant/debate thus far. i'll keep adding to the journal entry as needed.
 MastaVern · Sun Jan 08, 2006 @ 02:38am · 4 Comments |
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MastaVern · Sat Aug 06, 2005 @ 06:33am · 5 Comments |
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in school i was king of the outcasts as i said. anyone who was not in any particular group, i brought them into my social group. and like it said, we made easy targets for bullies. i was picked on so often that one day i snapped. we were in class and one of the biggest bullies of the school was picking on me. "red rob" people called him, and he just wouldnt leave me alone cause he knew i wouldnt fight back. i just ignored him for a while and took a few slapps to the back of the head. then finaly he said something that just enraged me and i blacked out, something to the effect of rapeing a few of the chicks that were in my group, if they were as easy and submissive as i was.... so i stood up, grabbed the chair in one hand, used the momentum of the chair in one hand as i turned arround brought it up and up-side his head, bringing him down yto the ground in one blow to his head. his friends were in just as much shock as the teacher and the rest of the class. i stood over him stratteling my legs oiver his sides and grabbed his collar and pulled him face to face with me, and asked "are there any more rumors or other articles of bull-s**t you would like to address at this time?!!!" and the fear and shock in his eyes said it all. so from that day forward i was the bully of the bullies. i droped his head and let it bounce off the hard tile floor of the science lab, and started heading to the exit. the teacher looked at me and was stuttering, yo..you.. n-n-need t-t-t-to..." is about all she got out before i interupted her in a verbal outbreak, "I'M ALREADY GOING THERE YOU c**k MANGELING FETUS INVESTED c**t!" basically saying i was already on my way to the principal's office. and surpriseingly i only got suspended for 2 days for that, and it wasnt for hitting thr guy with the chair, but mainly for swearing and disrespecting the teacher. i think the fac that it looked like rob deserved the hit considering he was 4 times my size. literally! i was only about 4' 0" and weighed about 95 pounds if i was soaking wet! and he was the best defencive line player on the foot ball team, standing probably 6'9" and weighing i would have to guess at least 300 pounds. so in other words, it looked like a chiwawa took out the big rotweiler of the junk yard, kinda thing.
there were several times after that when i saw someone picking on someone else in the halls that i would step in, and stop the fight, or find out what was going on, and i ended up in the fight instead of the other person. most the time i could talk the person harassing the weaker person down, mainly cause everyone knew my "reputation" now, but there were still few who would try me. one guy was picking on one of my friends, knocking books out of his hands, takeing his glasses, etc... and i stepped in and got his glasses back, and helped him up, and looked at the dude who was pushing him arround. he laughed when i glared at him and triied to get him to just walk away. then he kinda looked like he was going to turn and leave but instead just pulled back and swung at me. i really didnt have time to do much so i just blocked his punch with my forhead by lowering my head. it knocked me on my a** and i shook out my head, and got up, just to see him jumpiung arround screaming like a little girl. come to find out, he broke 3 bones in his hand, and fractured 2 of the bones in his wrist. so i guess i'm just as hard headed physically as i am mentaly. sweatdrop
and then again there was the time i had a gun pulled on me. i jumped off the buss when i looked over into the field off by the james river, and the jamestown camp site, and there were 3 guys just beating up one guy, i couldnt see whoo it was, but obviously it was not a fair fight so i jumped off the buss when it was still moveing through the rear fire exit, and ran across the feld to interfear and see wtf was going on. the person on the ground was mitchel. and the 3 guys were 3 i had confronted before because they made a racest comment to 'gizmo' (mike) calling him a wotrthless fat beached wale cotten picking ni@@er! so i lept across the tabel and broke the person who said it's nose. and dared either of the other 2 to say something else. and at that time i was kinda laying on my back and side at the same time, so truthfully i was in no position to be antagoniseing them, notr to be defending my self if they decided to hit me. (and he got suspended for that one, not me. mr. cypress (the princiupal)was a southern baptist preacher of a well known african chruch, so he didnt take kindly to raceism in any form. (same would go for anybody caling white person a cracker or fish belly) but anyways back to the field, i kinda interupted them by just stepping between them amd mitchel, and george(the one with the broken nose still) asked what i was doing. vbla bla bla... and seeing that i refused to get out of his waythye surrounded me. one guy came at me, and i took a elbow too his throat, and he went down, george came at me and i hit his broken nose again whee and the third guy, tommy, grabbed me arround the waist and arms pinning my arms down, so i swung my head back, hitting him in the face with the back of my head, then bringing up my foot behind me, found his "jewls" in his pants, and needless to say his grip arround me loostened and he dropped to his knees. then by the time i looked at george again, there was a gun pointed at me. a revolver, and he kept saying "now what b***h, now what?!!" and "your going to die you sympithiseing fool" etc. i just kinda laughed at him and he got flustered and walked up to me pushing the gun against my head, then pointing it at my face at he stood there arm streached out, and gun inches from my nose. he asked all sorts of questions, but the jist of them was "why are you not afraid with someone with a gun to your face, and you are about to die?" so i bit on the berrel of the gun, and mumbled to him, "now what b***h, now what?" the look he gave me was total confusion and uncertanty. his friends tried to talk him down but he kept telling them to shut up, so they took off running. he looked back at me with the gun still in my mouth and he didnt know what to do, i could see that look in his eye of "oh s**t, i didnt expect this, what do i do now?" mitchel got up off the ground, or shuffeled on the ground and tried to crawl away or something, but george's attention went over my shoulder to him, and i used my right hand and snatched the gun berrel out my mouth, twisted his arm over and down, upper-cutting his elbow, and he released the gun, and i pistol whiped him with the handle of the gun. police showed up not too long after that and i spent a day down at the police station, and come to find out the bullets were teflon bullets or something "cop killers ileagle in the usa) so the gun was loaded the whole time. and both george and his father were taken to jail and tried for attempted murder, and unlawfull possession of a fire arm, and the charge of the bullets. so yea, needless to say, i still dont have to worry about george for another 17 years....
more to come. and edits to be made for spelling and other things.
MastaVern · Tue May 17, 2005 @ 11:44am · 6 Comments |
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My life was simple and normal at one point, as normal as it could have been considering the circumstances. Mom and dad both worked for the armed services of the USA, my dad a fuel specialist in the us air force, my mom was a marine. My mom got out of the service to be with my dad, and were stationed in Germany where I was conceived and born... my dad was on assignment in turkey in the desert for 30 days, and being only 22 you know what he wanted soon as he got home. eek 5 hours into it, my mom stops him for a moment, and says �oh by the way, I stopped taking the pill... Yea, needless to say that killed the mood.
From what my mom and dad have told me, I was not wanted by my dad, not at all, he wanted to be married 5 years before he decided to settle down and have kids, so he tried to talk her into an abortion. She would not go get an abortion and after several days of him asking her about it she finally took him and threw him across the dining room table. Being that that didn't work, he tried scaring my mom in a dark room, hoping she would have a miscarriage, gave her a coat hanger as a gag gift and a note, these work too... but 9 months later I pop out, and my dad's opinion changed almost instantly... The doctor held me got ready to clean me up and I pissed all over the doctor. "THAT'S MY BOY!" was all my dad could say... 2 years later, while in NY, my brother was coming around too. Dad didn't try any antics with him during my mom's pregnancy. He only remembers saying "Not again!!!" so from the beginning, my life was rocky.
We moved to Okinawa where my mom worked as a manager at Anthony's pizza, and dad was still stationed there, they offered him a lump sum of money to leave the service and he did, we moved back to the states, Virginia, and that's when I got was thrown on to this hell-a-coaster
7-8 ish mom found work instantly and was on my dad's rear about doing the same. My dad put the lump sum of money as a down payment on a house and we all moved in... my dad just wanted a vacation for a month or so, he still had a little bit of money left from his personal savings he could pay bills with, but my mom was going ape s#!t over him not having a job yet, a month passed, and my dad virtually moved down into the garage... at that age I thought nothing of it. He began to think a lot more and drink more. I would go down there frequently and see him when he got home from work, and play a game or 2 of darts. no more than 6 months later my dad in a drunken rage after my mom was complaining about my dad drinking too much, got in a physical fight with my mom. After my mom threw my dad around the living room for a bit and broke the scabbard to his katana with my dad's head, (picture a Chiwawa throwing around a pit bull. That is the size difference between my mom and my dad.) my dad drew the sword and chased my mom into the bathroom and held the sword to her neck. All the commotion awoke me and I walked out to get a glass of water from the bathroom. My dad later told me that if it was not for me trying to open the door and it bumping into him, he was at the point where he would have ran it through my mom�s neck and only would have done the same to himself once he realized he had killed the mother of his only two things that mattered to him in this world. Early the next morning he came packed his things and said his goodbyes. Then, he was gone. I've seen him three times since he left the state...
After my dad left, I was out of control. I was in and out of nut houses (psyche wards, mental institutions) seeing different therapists, some times up to 4 a week.... I even tried to jump out of a tree and die... But as you can see it failed, 60' in the air, I fell through every branch on the way down, and the last 15... was a free clear fall. I walked away from it no more than 2 minutes later, after I caught my breath.
we were a relitively poor family, so i did have problems with social services wanting to take us away from our mom because she "did'nt make enough to keep us" so, one time social services came to take us from our mother (me and my brother) and as much as I did not like my mom), I drew a sword, and held off the police for 7 hours, till they came in on me with swat, but even then i don't think one of them walked away with out needing at least one stitch... which i think is impressive for anyone's standards, cause how did I get to the other side of 4 shields? They finally hit me with a beanbag in a shot gun, twice to take me down... a 12 year old at the time, needed 2 beanbags out of a 12 gauge shotgun to take me down! Needless to say I was in the loony bin for a while after that one, but even though all this was going on in my head, I still managed to skip 2 grades, and graduate at the age of 16. I took only one year of school in middle school and completed all 3 grade levels.
High school was a mess... I was not the most popular hid in school, but I was the most well known. But it wasn't always like that, I was popular at one point when I started the. But when I stepped off my pedestal to help some random person who was tripped in the hallway and help him with his stuff, I became an outcast to the popular crowd. I was no longer "IN" their social group. So I started finding new friends� real friends. I took a look at the social order and looked around. Only less than 13% of the people were considered popular... WTF is up with that? So I started finding people who did not fit into different groups, and pulled them into my group... the group got so large at one point that there had to be several tables pushed together at lunch to accommodate us all.... that's when real trouble started. Now that I was an out cast, any one associated with me was also an outcast; hence those who were not in any particular group became instant target for bullies and jocks. So frequently I was in the principal's office explaining what happen.....
Then sorrow hit... one of my friend's mother died.... And after 2 days she killed her self... that tore me up inside. But I was not the only one... our whole group was devastated... there was no way the guidance counselors could keep up with so many hurt friends... by the end of the week, 2 more students committed suicide... that's when I lost it.... I went home that day and took a handful of each pill in the house I could find, then I went into my room and took a nap. The final nap.... But I woke from it. I immediately ran outside and jumped off the roof of the house, and I bruised my knee... the problem was that a neighbor saw mw jump, and called the police, the police put me in custody, and the judge again placed me in custody of MCV mental institution for children in Richmond. I was there for 2 weeks. And during that time I wrote a poem that I later do not even remember writing.
Quote: The hunter's final nap I have a true respect for the aspect of death, Though I'd like to accelerate life to my final breath, How interesting I find suicide, It would be simple, a few drops of cyanide. Many people think I need medical help, But hospital food taste too much like kelp. As I sit here, I ponder and debate, Over why I think death is a fitting fate. Life is so boring when I can't find a thrill To keep living on borrowing your will As I sit here and stare at my bare feet, Then this new instinct hit me, I want fresh meat. This new overwhelming feeling, it is blood lust. The urge to see flowing blood is becoming a must, Finally a new way to get a cheep thrill, To see things die, the ecstasy of the kill. For now I will postpone my final nap, Till this new amusing act comes to a wrap, So when life feels like it is just dragging on, I ask you, who will miss me when I'm gone. Vern Vanguard
Depressing when I think back to it.... But some where along the way it occurred to me, the chain of pain is like an avalanche when suicides provoke suicides, the pain keeps on building and increasing at an alarming rate to where once you are consumed in it, there is very little light to guide you. You must make your own light, and fallow your heart, though your heart may be in a state of mourning, there is no reason to give up... I tried to give up, and my body would not let me, now I see the truth, and have decided no matter what happens, I can't let anything like this happen again, as long as I can help it! no one should go through pain as deep as what I have forged through, and as much of it I have sorted out, there is much I must yet sort out, but the drive to succeed where others have failed, and I will not let more fail, is the only thing that keeps me going.
A set back is only a set up for a come back. Don't loose hope.
MastaVern · Tue Nov 30, 2004 @ 10:32pm · 14 Comments |
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