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 Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:10 am
Hiya
I have noticed that there is a number of members here who follow Kemetic Orthodox.
Kemetic Orthodox is the modern day religion which was followed by the Ancient Egyptains 4-2,000 years ago but is now followed by people today. We worship this religion today by giving offerings to the Gods (Anubis, Osiris, Horus, Ptah etc) with not just food but modern day technology (I hear that the God of writing likes our notepads and pens whee ).
I would follow this religion but my Dad is anti-religious and Maat would not want me to turn my back to my family so I am waiting until I leave home before I take this faith seriously.
So who here follows this religion? If you do then how long have you worshipped it and what inspired you to do so?
There are two stickies in which provide information on this. One Sticky is links all dedicated to Kemetic Orthodox research and a Sticky I have done has one link (The Netjer House).
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:59 am
I've been with the House of Netjer for almost 2 years and have been divined and named in oct and nov of this year.
Hmm what inspired me.. well...Ancient Egypt has interested me ever since I can remember.. even before i could understand half of what i was watching on tv lol I never really considered the religion before, seeing as most of the Gods/desses I knew, I didn't particuarly get along with (back when I thought there were only Isis, Osiris, Horus and Anubis lol). But after a lot of trying to "find myself" I stumbled across Set... and clung =^.^= Sadly the particular path I was following when I found Set... well... they didn't think well of him and anyone who followed him so I ended up going solo for a few years. Once I stumbled upon the House via link in a website dedicated to Set, I saw other people actually liked him (without calling him another form of Satan) and I bawled. Stuck with em ever since lol
I've looked into other Kemetic Reconstructionist relgions but Kemetic Orthodoxy has been the friendliest to me and just feels right, so I go with that one haha :3
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:24 pm
Ubat I've been with the House of Netjer for almost 2 years and have been divined and named in oct and nov of this year. Hmm what inspired me.. well...Ancient Egypt has interested me ever since I can remember.. even before i could understand half of what i was watching on tv lol I never really considered the religion before, seeing as most of the Gods/desses I knew, I didn't particuarly get along with (back when I thought there were only Isis, Osiris, Horus and Anubis lol). But after a lot of trying to "find myself" I stumbled across Set... and clung =^.^= Sadly the particular path I was following when I found Set... well... they didn't think well of him and anyone who followed him so I ended up going solo for a few years. Once I stumbled upon the House via link in a website dedicated to Set, I saw other people actually liked him (without calling him another form of Satan) and I bawled. Stuck with em ever since lol I've looked into other Kemetic Reconstructionist relgions but Kemetic Orthodoxy has been the friendliest to me and just feels right, so I go with that one haha :3 I never understood why people, even those supposedly well-informed in ancient Egyptian religion, would think Set was "evil"! He's necissary chaos, yes, but that's a good thing. There can't be Ma'at without order, after all. And isn't He the one to slay Apep every night? That makes Him seem like a pretty "good guy" to me. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:32 pm
I've known about the House of Netjer for about three years, and have been posting on the boards and generally being a part of it's community for about one or two. But I just now got divined last week and today(!) I'll be finding out my Kemetic name. 3nodding
It was Nebthet who lead me to find KO and to Yinepu, who in turn bothered me to join (the most out of the two, at least). lol.
I was always interested in and inspired by ancient Egypt, ever since I learned about it and was old enough to understand. For some reason, though, the idea of actually worshipping the Netjeru didn't occur to me for the longest time, after a long and frustrating journey of trying to "find myself" and experimenting with and learning about other religions. All the while my love for Kemet was growing, and I happened to find a link to the House while studying up on Egyptian history one day. And the rest, as they say, is history. ^_^
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:34 am
I had a philosiphical discussion at college once about whether good and evil exist. As I learned that the Egyptiahns didn't believe in 'evil' I had to say no but chaos exists, which can be a good or bad thing:
For example the Nile floods, and the flood is big, this is a chaos itself:
- Good: It waters the crops and brings food to the land
- Bad: People drown and die
But once I get my PC working again (This is my parents) I can go back to the Netjer forum as I don't have the time crying
But what inspired me, well I love Egypt and I crave knowledge about Egypt. I have a thread on this forum asking what the religion was and somebody told me that it is KO, she gave me a link and since then I've been thinking about whether KO is right for me, and it seems to be at the moment whee
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:24 am
Aqatisenu was you right? Congrats! I kinda missed the chat or i would have congrat'ed sooner -.- couldnt get myself to stay up sweatdrop
I think the Egyptians did believe in "evil" but not that it was suppose to be there. I forget how isfet (evil) was created but i remember that it was a mistake. That there was absolutly no purpose for evil/isfet but that chaos did always have purpose... granted it doesnt always make everyone happy ^.^;
Also, there are a bunch of religions that focus on Ancient Egypt beliefs... sadly I can't think of any other than KO right now lol I think there's one that focuses around Aset... ill get back to you on names when I wake up more and feel like searching. I know a few people prefered another group over KO and I checked that group out once (i think it mighta been the Aset one... sorry... make due with my jibberish for now lol) but they charged you to move up in "rank" among the religion (granted KO has a fee for RPD but they work with you) and had a lot of "this is how we believe things were.. believe the same or get out" kinda feel to it. After seeing that group it kinda scared me back to KO before I even bothered checking out the others haha
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:51 am
That is silly that you have to pay to rank up, that won't want to make people want to follow their religion and convert to others ei KO. But if people have money to burn and think that that religion is right for them then so be it.
And I just learned a new Egyptian word today, lol thanks (I am currently learning Egyptian and how to read Hieroglyphics although I should learn Coptic first).
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:32 pm
Ubat I think the Egyptians did believe in "evil" but not that it was suppose to be there. I forget how isfet (evil) was created but i remember that it was a mistake. That there was absolutly no purpose for evil/isfet but that chaos did always have purpose... granted it doesnt always make everyone happy ^.^; Hmm... From what I can tell it isn't really "evil" that they believed in, and rather as Rennie` said, it was an "order" or a "chaos"(Also, I think "isfet" translates more into chaos than into evil in the first place) thing. Chaos, though sometimes not what we would like, is necissary for order; and order or "Ma'at" is what we're striving for here. smile Nothing but Apep could really be considered evil, I think. As the very epitome of un-creation, it couldn't really be considered good, at least. ^_^; Oh, and thanks for the congratuation! 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:16 pm
I identify primarily as a Kemetic reconstructionist, but I am currently studying Kemetic Orthodoxy. At the moment, I'm reluctant to call myself KO- since KO is a very distinct collection of interpretations of the ancient Egyptian religion, and I may not share all of those interpretations even though I think that it is a good group. I have encountered different ways of looking at the source material, even among academics, and in the modern Kemetic community there are a few different groups who pick and choose from among these interpretations. These differences in beliefs are what establish and distinguish each sect from one another- so even if you agree with some (or even most) of what one group teaches, if you disagree with any of it can you really claim to be that particular sect? Hmm...
That's what I'm pondering these days, but I know at least that I am a reconstructionist. I place a high value on credible sources of an academic quality in my attempts to understand the established traditions of the ancient Egyptian religion and culture. I give due priority and respect to those traditions, and I seek to manifest my understanding of these traditions in a modern life which is firmly rooted in the wisdom of our gods, and the people who have lived in such close contact with Them. That's reconstructionism at its core, so for now that's all I'll claim.^_^
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:27 pm
I just finishe the beginners classes in the House of Netjer. I have not yet had my parentage divined yet, but even so I have been studying any books I can get a hold of weather they be purely study into egyptian religion or wiccan based books on the egyptian gods and godesses, giving a wide range view of the gods and goddesses and different approaches to them. I certainly have a much stronger feeling of belonging with Kemetic Orthodoxy than I ever felt with Roman Catholicism because of the openness to others and the non-condemnation of other beliefs. For me, Itwas Sekhmet who brought me over to first search for a religion I didn't beforehand know existed, and She has ee helping me ever since, along with Asar and Yinepu.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:17 pm
I followed it for a little while, then stopped to experiment with other religions, none of which I am comfortable with. I think that I still am Kemetic, secretly, though I do not exactly offer the Gods anything (which makes me feel really bad...) I enjoy studying the Gods more than I do worshipping them. They each have their own unique personalities. whee
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:45 pm
I was thinking about that religion. But I am still trying to figure out some information on the religion. Can someone help me out?
I heard there is initiation. What is this about?
What exactly are Shemsu names?
Any other info would be good.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:44 pm
Hopefully someone will come along with a better explanation ^.^; I'm not sure how much you've read so I'm just going to ramble a bit and hopefully answer you a lil haha sweatdrop
If you want to learn about the faith you can choose to fill out an application for the Beginner's Course (you need to be over 18 or have parental permission if you're younger. I've never heard of anyone being turned down for anything other than the age thing tho). The Beginners is an explanation of the faith, divided up into 10 or so online email lessons and a chat room that you can attend to ask any questions you have about the lessons (chat is optional). Somewhere towards the end of the emails you will be asked if you want to become a Remetj, which is basically a friend of the faith. If you ignore this email you won't become a Remetj, but if you want to become one you just drop them a line.
Once you are a Remetj you can choose to go thro RPD (Rite of Parent Divination) which is when the Nisut (AUS) uses... shells... i believe (?) to figure out who created you're ba and ka. Your Ba creator(s) is your "Parent", whoever is/are your parent(s) will always be your parent.. you wont gain parents with time. Whoever created your Ka is your "Beloved", you will never lose beloveds but you can gain more.
A Shemsu is a follower of the faith. If you want to become a Shemsu you must accept the Nisut as the leader of the Kemetic Orthodox people and your teacher and accept the results of your RPD. If you don't agree to that then you can of course stay a Remetj if you choose. If however you do accept that and wish to become a Shemsu you will get a Shemsu name. A Shemsu name is another divination where the Nisut (AUS) will ask your Parent(s) to name you. I know there was a certain god who said to the Nisut that they wanted the followers of the faith to be named this way... (for some reason Sekhmet comes to mind) but I really dont know who it was : It's been asked before and probably will be again sometime lol 'I think' it's basically a way of symbolizing you being born into the faith (like being baptized... someone please correct me if im wrong... its just how ive always took it lol) ... (also I would guess the "initiation" you've heard of would be the vow you take when you become a Shemsu. It's a vow to uphold your parents and to.... crap... I should remember this shouldn't I? haha I think it's either learn the secrets of your Shemsu name or keep it sacred... please someone help me with this one) redface
Personally I'd say, if you want to learn more about K.O. take the beginners class if you can. There is absolutly no commitment needed to take that class, it's just a learning experience. And if you can't take it, lurk around the message boards. By the time I took the beginners it was mostly stuff I already learned from reading the boards and asking questions. smile
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:11 am
I don't think that I'll be an orthadox simply because I've heard some controversy surrounding that particular branch of faith. Instead, I'll be doing my own thing.
However, I think you should follow your faith with or without the support of your dad, but this doesn't mean you have to turn your back on your family. I'm sure there are compromises that you can make.
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:29 pm
I myself had some family resentment to the fact that I was changing to a non-Jesus religion (I still believe in Jesus, but not as a God, but as a powerful Akh), however, they are slowly starting to acknowledge the fact that this religion isn't 'evil' as they thought it to be, simply because we do not see Jesus as our savior or God. My own suggestion is go with your heart. You would not be turning your back on your family, and in time they will come to an acceptance of your choice. And the Gods and Goddesses are very understanding and will never abandon you no matter your choice. Also, you can go the route of Remetj, which means you follow both the Kemetic faith and your current faith. I believe the vow is both, learning about your name and keeping it sacred.
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