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Yes, i have theorized a purley encased magnet system, surrounded with oposite polarity magnets all around it, to make a small pole spin inside of it, with magnets attatched to the pole with small extentions. And positioning the Magnets in certain angles, it will give you a spinning motion. Now if i had a more clear way to explain this.

Step one to starting this project.

Grab a cylinder. Then, get alot of magnets, hopefully really strong magnets, then get a pole, about 1/8th the size of the Cylinder. Then some how get extentions onto the small pole. About 2 or 4 small extentions. Then line the extentions with magnets, all having the opisite magnetic Current. then, within the cylinder, line the insides with slanted or ridged Magnets. Yes i know that the magnets Have a North and south pole, that is why i sugested the slanted magnets, and not really with all that many, depending on how many extentions you have, depicts weather how many Magnets on the inards of the cylinder. If i can think about putting this onto Paint or something to help explain this, it would be easier, which i think ill do later.

But my fear with this project is that it wont spin fast enough or strong enough for its intended design, which is for a small helicopter. Tho i read something about Gears helping with Tourqe, or strength. If you need a clearer out look on things, let me know please, i would like to try and get this to work.

I don't think I understand your specific arrangement, but in any case--it won't work as you think. Why in the world would you want to do this in the first place? With no source of power, the best you can do is for the motor to demagnetize the permanent magnets during operation, making it a kind of an uwieldly battery.

Electromagnetic interactions conserve energy. If your motor does any work, it must extract energy from somewhere, and since you do not have any external power source, it must come from the magnets themselves. Some energy was involved in magnetizing the material of the permanent magnet, and the magnet cannot provide any more energy than that by itself.

what you need is an electric current. You should probably look into 'solenoids' it's very similar to what you thought up. What you are alluding to is perpetual motion, as VorpalNeko said, the magnetic field does not do work. What you are looking at is the transition going from applying an electric current to actual motion.

If you have a wire, and electricity runs through it, and you wrap it around in loops such as this:


you can make a magnet. By switching the direction of the current, you can change the polarity of the ends of the solenoid (a solenoid is simply wire wrapped in loops around a metal), so that at one point one end is north, and the other is south, and at another point the north end is now the south end and vice versa.

From your setup all you need is just two of those magnets with opposite polarity of course. You can place the solenoid between the two magnets in your box, make sure that each end of the solenoid repels the magnets in the box.

So the repulsion will push the solenoid to rotate, until it positions itself so that north faces south, that is when you switch the currents, thus inverting the polarity on the solenoid, and again making each end face its repulsive partner. At which point the rotation continues. It's slow, and you won't be able to power a helicopter with it, but its neat.

Ok kewl, that would be great. Would be greator if this worked... But yea, solenoids might work, but im not saying anything just yet.

It's not going to work.... like poweroutage pointed out, what he's proposing is a design for a Perpetual Motion Device. He even admits this ("Just to keep a constant spinning rotation, never ending, becuase of the magnetic pushing"). There are plenty of variations on this theme, but generally speaking, all of them rely on magnetic repulsion and attraction between the rotor and the stator. Here are some other designs, which should give you some idea of the notion that he has in mind:



Needless to say, these don't work either. You know, because of the laws of physics and all that.

kk man, just make it larger, you can't see it cleraly. When I didn't understand it, it didn't seem like it could work, but when I looked at the larger picture it made sense. So please. larger.