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What if Jesus meant every word He said? 

Tags: God, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, The Bible, Truth, Love, Eternal Life, Salvation, Faith, Holy, Fellowship, Apologetics 

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Garland-Green

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:40 am


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:36 pm
Of what I could detect: everything, except his "once saved, always saved" stance, was sound.

Acknowledging that there's a category of people who never really knew Jesus, doesn't negate the examples in Scripture describing another category of believer, individuals that He knew, that were justified and sanctified by His blood, shared in the Holy Spirit, and yet were rejected later. And examples of those genuinely grafted in (which is only done by faith), being broken off later.

      • Hebrews 6:4-6 (NIV)

        4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[a] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

        Footnotes:

        a. Hebrews 6:6 Or age, 6 if they fall

      • Hebrews 10:26-35 (NIV)

        26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[a] and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”[b] 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

        32 Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you endured in a great conflict full of suffering. 33 Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. 34 You suffered along with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. 35 So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.

        Footnotes:

        a. Hebrews 10:30 Deut. 32:35
        b. Hebrews 10:30 Deut. 32:36; Psalm 135:14

      • Romans 11:13-22 (NIV)

        13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

        17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

        22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.


Further Biblical verses on this in the following topic: "Eternal Security" (including all the verses, such as "being plucked out of his hand", "seal of the Holy Spirit", etc, that he tried to appeal to but ignored details/implications of that very text and of others).
 

cristobela
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