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Duronva Sol

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:45 pm
Alive After the Fall

You must know what is happening inside our country! Please listen to this message, not the sells pitch!  
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:11 am
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You must know what is happening inside our country! Please listen to this message, not the sells pitch!


So his video [direct link: ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=82&v=o46qsDx6KZI]
was uploaded yesterday (May 11, 2015), and has only 15 views
at the time of my watching it. How did you find this so quickly? lol.

From experience, I've noticed that random websites with long, auto-
played videos (which don't allow you to see the duration and hide
the pause button) are all a big, greedy hoax.

                                        wahmbulance wahmbulance wahmbulance

And not only that, just assess the spirit they're operating in: by hiding
the duration, they're robbing people of their time. Giving people false
hope that the video will be over soon, so they stay planted, with no
option to pause the video. By hiding the pause button, they show
they do not care for our consent, not giving us a chance to decide,
"do I really want to sit through this video"? Essentially, in spirit, they are
stealing (people's time) and raping in spirit because they don't give the
option to stop and could care less if you want to watch. Free will choice
denied. You will forcefully watch whether you like it or not. Thank God
I am familiar with YouTube and know that left-clicking the YouTube logo
opens the video up so you watch it on YouTube and clicking elsewhere
on the video pauses the video.

The spirit of things aside, also scrutinize what he's literally doing:



Lying



Instead of putting his own doctorate degree, with his name on it, he
puts a generic clip art.

And he distorts scripture.

He says,

@ 3:24 "But if this is true why do the prophets speak of pollution since
there was no pollution in ancient times"

Lie.

"Polluting" the land was possible ever since Genesis, even if not by the same means.

      • Numbers 35:33 (NIV)

        33 “‘Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land,
        and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed,
        except by the blood of the one who shed it.


And we have people shedding blood ever since:

      • Genesis 4:10 (NIV)

        10 The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood
        cries out to me from the ground.


Cain and Abel, in the beginning.

I was hesitant to watch passed the 3 minute 35 second mark. He outright lied.
How can he possibly have a trustworthy message? and his hesitance to be
transparent was a big red flag.

But I continued watching.

More dishonesty just 2 seconds later:

@3:37 "Babylon will reach space as it 'mounts up to heaven' (Jeremiah
51:53) and 'raises its throne above the stars of God' (Isaiah 14:14) (sic) "

First of all, it's Isaiah 14:13, but the lie here is this: just because something
reaches up to "heaven" it does not mean it went all the way up to space and
out of the earth's atmosphere. In the Old Testament it can mean "the sky"
in general. Just like we have skyscrapers today. (You could literally say,
"heaven-scraper", the building is literally in the heavens, the skies).

To compare that to other areas of scripture:

      • Deuteronomy 4:11 (KJV)

        11 And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain
        burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and
        thick darkness.


Did the fire reach out to space? No. It stayed within earth's atmosphere.
But the fire did reach the sky, all the more since YHWH came down
on top of a mountain, so he's already up in the sky.

      • Exodus 19:18 (KJV)

        18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord
        descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the
        smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.


Deuteronomy is describing the same scene: the people coming to the foot
of the mountain because YHWH would descend on it.


Compare that to the verses describing the tower of Babel—no difference:

      • Genesis 11:4 (KJV)

        4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may
        reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered
        abroad upon the face of the whole earth.


      • Genesis 11:4 (NIV)

        4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that
        reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves;
        otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”


And "above the stars" is figurative speech:

      • Nahum 3:16 (KJV)

        16 Thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven:
        the cankerworm spoileth, and fleeth away.



Two to three witnesses are enough to establish this website/video for the liar they are.

  1) He's not openly honest about his credentials (puts a fake degree up in the video)
  2) He lied about what it means to pollute the land
  3) He distorted the bible's use of something reaching to the heavens and "above the stars"

At best: he's ignorantly twisting scripture. At worst: he's relying on people's
ignorance of the old English to deceive them. Whatever sales pitch you're
referring to, I did not watch the video long enough to hear it; I did not watch
beyond 3:39. For the record, the duration of the video is 36:26 long (that is
36 minutes and 26 seconds long).

Get to know your Old Testament, spend time reading it, loving it, and
knowing it well, or else you will get hoodwinked.
 

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:25 pm
*sigh* Yes, it's sad that people distort Scripture for their own ends.

But then again, we gotta remember that Satan used Scripture too--he used it when he tried to tempt our Lord, remember?  
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:02 pm
I believe that the end is coming soon, but no one knows when it will happen. Have you read "The Harbinger"? It describes how the seven seals have already occurred with both American history and accurate Biblical verses.  


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:55 pm
Er, sorry. I am messing up lately with my verses. As a christian , I am failing lately So feel free to delete this. redface  
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:04 pm
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Er, sorry. I am messing up lately with my verses. As a christian , I am failing lately So feel free to delete this. redface

Don't be embarrassed about it. We all make mistakes from time to time. I have yet to meet anyone who is perfect and handles the word perfectly. Not saying we should not strive towards that, just saying it is easy to get things wrong.
I like to let things be up so we can all learn from what is written in the threads. If it is not too much of a trouble for you I would like it to remain here for educational purposes?  

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 5:33 pm
No problem. smile  
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