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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:38 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:01 am
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Spenelli Before I joined this guild I got 1 play a day. I got 5 plays yesterday. Yay! My tank isn't even great with all those lite fish in there. But hopefully Friday when I get paid I will get more (REAL) watermeats. I just can't see myself paying 2 billion gold in the MP when in the lifetime of my tank I've only made 545,024. xD Joining this guild was one of the best things I did on Gaia! Now people are actually playing my tank and bumping my thread. Also there are so many glowing tanks here. <3
TLDR: In the current Gaian economy you should only own a tank because you want it for personal / aesthetic reasons. You should not own them for the purpose of trying to make gold.
If your intent is to earn gold from your tank by purchasing fish on MP and then collecting profit from booty grab gold paid by players - I do not believe that is physically possible at today's market prices. I've had my fish frozen for a couple of years now so I don't have current play numbers. Possibly someone else here has a different opinion but personally I don't see how it is possible for the numbers to work out.
I used to run six full dolphin tanks. My tanks were posted in about 400 booty grab threads and guilds. Some of those faded over time as they always do but my point is my tanks were well represented and saw a lot of maxed out games.
From experience I know that back then a dolphin would gross me a max of roughly 750k over its four month life span. Back then a dolphin on MP would cost me an average of say about 400k. I've purchased them for as low as 225K and in a very few instances paid about 600k. Current pricing on MP for dolphins: Average Buy Price: 11,963,700,000 gold
There is simply no way a dolphin will ever, EVER make anything even remotely close to that even in a well exposed tank. You would be losing nearly 12 Billion gold per dolphin (x 17 dolphins in the tank) over the four month life span. I am not personally willing to pay out over 50 Billion gold per month (average) just so other people can play my tank.
I assume the numbers would be similar with other high trigger fish since prices on all have skyrocketed with everything else. Dolphins are just the ones I have a lot of data on.
Real numbers would probably be even worse because from what I understand the number of BG threads and players has decreased significantly. The recent increase in the cap on daily gold is almost an insult because it does not change what a player or tank owner gets PER GAME. Most players are not willing to spend umpteen hours a day playing just booty grab to try to reach the new cap. The payout has not kept up with the rest of the site.
The people running this guild have worked hard to promote booty grab and have had a lot of contests with some pretty awesome prizes and such. I applaud their efforts and I'm not trying to sound bitter or angry or anything. But they are fighting an uphill battle until if / when Gaia ever decides to make tanks and booty grab more balanced with the rest of the current Gaia economy. But if you have limited disposable income (your reference to waiting for payday) I don't want you to spend a lot of real money on fish with the expectation they will make you a lot of gold in your tank.
Ironically, you'd make far more gold per fish by purchasing them from the fish store and selling them on marketplace. I don't buy gold generators so I don't know how that compares. I do know the current 10 BILLION + gold I could get from selling one dolphin on MP would be more than the combined total of the literally hundreds of dolphins that have lived and died in my tanks.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:08 pm
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Well, I was actually just a bit behind on money cause me and my bf had been out of work so long. I feel like if I have less than $300 I'm broke. xD We're finally doing well again. I'm super lucky because I only have one bill a month. xD We live with his mom, and it's a situation where she actually wants us here. I get tips at work from a tip jar, so we split it. I end up with $5 or more every day just extra. My tips are mine to do what I want with, and I want gaia cash! Haha. You are right about tanks not being a way to make money. I do look at it now like I just like watermeats. They are adorable and I love them. Expensive pixels, haha. What I like about meats though is their crazy life span. They live over 6 months. But still... that means they cost me $85 a year. It is stupid of me, but oh well. xD I work for my money so might as well have some fun with it. I would make a lot more selling them than keeping them, haha. I think Aquariums have been neglected a long time, but it looks like we finally got through to them. They say they are working on increasing the amount per game, as well as adding more fish. Lets hope they come through.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:33 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:23 pm
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Spenelli Well, I was actually just a bit behind on money cause me and my bf had been out of work so long. I feel like if I have less than $300 I'm broke. xD We're finally doing well again. I'm super lucky because I only have one bill a month. xD We live with his mom, and it's a situation where she actually wants us here. I get tips at work from a tip jar, so we split it. I end up with $5 or more every day just extra. My tips are mine to do what I want with, and I want gaia cash! Haha. You are right about tanks not being a way to make money. I do look at it now like I just like watermeats. They are adorable and I love them. Expensive pixels, haha. What I like about meats though is their crazy life span. They live over 6 months. But still... that means they cost me $85 a year. It is stupid of me, but oh well. xD I work for my money so might as well have some fun with it. I would make a lot more selling them than keeping them, haha. I think Aquariums have been neglected a long time, but it looks like we finally got through to them. They say they are working on increasing the amount per game, as well as adding more fish. Lets hope they come through.
It sounds like you have the right frame of mind about it. If it is disposable income and you get enjoyment out of it then it's not much different than spending the money on a movie ticket or something.
I probably blah-blahed about it too much because I've seen people disappointed due to unrealistic expectations. Or in one case (this is going back quite a while) a friend in another country was happy she had finally saved up enough cash for a tank full of meats, bought them, and then three for four days after she put them in the tank is when Gaia severely nerfed watermeats. Perhaps you know but meats used to all glow at once the way dolphins and airsharks do. I think they also used to pay out more but not sure. I mean, game payouts overall got nerfed but I'm trying to remember if watermeat payout specifically got nerfed along with the glow nerf.
And thanks for the comment about Gaia working on increasing per game payout. I was not aware of that. Because of your comment I went and found it in the Asked the Staff archives. It will be interesting to see if the changes are significant enough to be worthwhile. Still, it's better than the dead silence we have been getting for a long time now.
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:07 pm
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