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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:15 am


Magical thinking in various forms is a cultural universal and an important aspect of religion. In many cases it becomes difficult or impossible to draw any meaningful line between beliefs and practices that are magical versus those that are religious, but in general the term religion is reserved for an organized cult with a priesthood and dedicated sites of worship or sacrifice, while magic is prevalent in all societies, regardless of whether they have organized religion or more general systems of animism or shamanism. Religion and magic became conceptually separated with the development of western monotheism, where the distinction arose between supernatural events sanctioned by mainstream religious doctrine ("miracles") and mere magic rooted in folk belief or occult speculation. In pre-monotheistic religious traditions, there is no fundamental distinction between religious practice and magic; tutelary deities concerned with magic are sometimes called "hermetic deities" or "spirit guides." Thoughts anyone ^_^?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:44 pm


I myself have a strange outlook on religion, I do not believe in god or the devil, I do Believe in heaven and hell. I think zodiacs do truly show one's true self in a sense, I am a libra The great strength of the Libra-born is their quest for fairness, peace and harmony. That the Scales are the great diplomats of the zodiac further helps their case. A beautiful journey this will be, thanks to the Libra's inimitable sense of style. I really believe in that, I also feel that everyone has the right to believe in what they feel is right. I don't think its right for others to try and reinforce beliefs on another. yes you may think your way of thinking is better, but how does the person you're trying to change feel? sometimes it is a good thing to change religions, but to force it on another will never end in a good way. I also believe in the supernatural, werewolves vampires, demon, and angels. I know what my spirit animal is, and before you ask no i did not just take a test online to see what it was. I actually had a dream about it and i know what the dream means. i have the spirit of the gray wolf, that is my animal guide, and yes i am part cherokee indian.

Well this is my views, i know it's not the best, not even sure if this is what you wanted. but hey i gave it a try what more can you ask for.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:35 pm


JehovahTheWolf
I myself have a strange outlook on religion, I do not believe in god or the devil, I do Believe in heaven and hell. I think zodiacs do truly show one's true self in a sense, I am a libra The great strength of the Libra-born is their quest for fairness, peace and harmony. That the Scales are the great diplomats of the zodiac further helps their case. A beautiful journey this will be, thanks to the Libra's inimitable sense of style. I really believe in that, I also feel that everyone has the right to believe in what they feel is right. I don't think its right for others to try and reinforce beliefs on another. yes you may think your way of thinking is better, but how does the person you're trying to change feel? sometimes it is a good thing to change religions, but to force it on another will never end in a good way. I also believe in the supernatural, werewolves vampires, demon, and angels. I know what my spirit animal is, and before you ask no i did not just take a test online to see what it was. I actually had a dream about it and i know what the dream means. i have the spirit of the gray wolf, that is my animal guide, and yes i am part cherokee indian.

Well this is my views, i know it's not the best, not even sure if this is what you wanted. but hey i gave it a try what more can you ask for.

i like your signature. heart
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:39 pm


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I myself have a strange outlook on religion, I do not believe in god or the devil, I do Believe in heaven and hell. I think zodiacs do truly show one's true self in a sense, I am a libra The great strength of the Libra-born is their quest for fairness, peace and harmony. That the Scales are the great diplomats of the zodiac further helps their case. A beautiful journey this will be, thanks to the Libra's inimitable sense of style. I really believe in that, I also feel that everyone has the right to believe in what they feel is right. I don't think its right for others to try and reinforce beliefs on another. yes you may think your way of thinking is better, but how does the person you're trying to change feel? sometimes it is a good thing to change religions, but to force it on another will never end in a good way. I also believe in the supernatural, werewolves vampires, demon, and angels. I know what my spirit animal is, and before you ask no i did not just take a test online to see what it was. I actually had a dream about it and i know what the dream means. i have the spirit of the gray wolf, that is my animal guide, and yes i am part cherokee indian.

Well this is my views, i know it's not the best, not even sure if this is what you wanted. but hey i gave it a try what more can you ask for.

i like your signature. heart



lol thank you mrgreen

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:45 pm


hmm not sure where to start...

my personal beliefs are pretty different from most people's. i think that god as most theologies believe does not exist, but rather god is a force, perhaps even the force of existence itself, the conciousness experiencing it's own existence as a multitude of other beings. that being said, i think everything is possible but i also consider myself an empericist: i try to rationalize and understand things to their deepest components based upon scentific theory based on evidence. evidence suggests that there is a lot more to physical reality than atoms and molecules would intend, things like string-theory and vibrational theory, quantum physics and other amazing things that happen on micro and macroscopic scales. if the mentioned theories hold true then all phenomina are explainable via scientific means; things like telepathy and clairvoyance can exist based on electrical currents and the vibrations we each have and being sensitive to those vibrations and each of those being an act of a globally present 'god-force' makes perfect sense.

to me at least.

it also makes sense that symbology would play a large part in the conciousness of humanity, and if god-force is is based in conciousness (which scientifically it can be construed as such) then why on earth would anyone think it impossible for there to be 'signs from the heavens' and 'divine inspirations.'

the trouble seems to mostly come from organized religions.

often times people have the tendency to fight over land-masses and control over the people in areas and religion has been one of the major piloting forces when it comes to people moving against one another. another is the percieved lack of resources. my belief is that organized religion is far too easily corrupted and thus i rarely participate in it if given the option.

just my two cents and if you want feel free to ask and i'll answer all questions to the best of my ability. heart
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:50 pm


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JehovahTheWolf
I myself have a strange outlook on religion, I do not believe in god or the devil, I do Believe in heaven and hell. I think zodiacs do truly show one's true self in a sense, I am a libra The great strength of the Libra-born is their quest for fairness, peace and harmony. That the Scales are the great diplomats of the zodiac further helps their case. A beautiful journey this will be, thanks to the Libra's inimitable sense of style. I really believe in that, I also feel that everyone has the right to believe in what they feel is right. I don't think its right for others to try and reinforce beliefs on another. yes you may think your way of thinking is better, but how does the person you're trying to change feel? sometimes it is a good thing to change religions, but to force it on another will never end in a good way. I also believe in the supernatural, werewolves vampires, demon, and angels. I know what my spirit animal is, and before you ask no i did not just take a test online to see what it was. I actually had a dream about it and i know what the dream means. i have the spirit of the gray wolf, that is my animal guide, and yes i am part cherokee indian.

Well this is my views, i know it's not the best, not even sure if this is what you wanted. but hey i gave it a try what more can you ask for.

i like your signature. heart



lol thank you mrgreen

you're more than welcome and it makes a lot of sense: people are afraid of their own power, but im not quite sure why...

my own thoughts on that are that people would feel like maybe they were cheating if they used their abilities to their full potential. i'll be honest that's one of my fears for sure sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:59 pm


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I myself have a strange outlook on religion, I do not believe in god or the devil, I do Believe in heaven and hell. I think zodiacs do truly show one's true self in a sense, I am a libra The great strength of the Libra-born is their quest for fairness, peace and harmony. That the Scales are the great diplomats of the zodiac further helps their case. A beautiful journey this will be, thanks to the Libra's inimitable sense of style. I really believe in that, I also feel that everyone has the right to believe in what they feel is right. I don't think its right for others to try and reinforce beliefs on another. yes you may think your way of thinking is better, but how does the person you're trying to change feel? sometimes it is a good thing to change religions, but to force it on another will never end in a good way. I also believe in the supernatural, werewolves vampires, demon, and angels. I know what my spirit animal is, and before you ask no i did not just take a test online to see what it was. I actually had a dream about it and i know what the dream means. i have the spirit of the gray wolf, that is my animal guide, and yes i am part cherokee indian.

Well this is my views, i know it's not the best, not even sure if this is what you wanted. but hey i gave it a try what more can you ask for.

i like your signature. heart



lol thank you mrgreen

you're more than welcome and it makes a lot of sense: people are afraid of their own power, but im not quite sure why...

my own thoughts on that are that people would feel like maybe they were cheating if they used their abilities to their full potential. i'll be honest that's one of my fears for sure sweatdrop


lol there is more to the poem, but thats all i could put in my sig
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:23 pm


such a very an good question. if you shine to bright, other's might hate you, juss a sayin' stuff

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:13 am


JehovahTheWolf
I myself have a strange outlook on religion, I do not believe in god or the devil, I do Believe in heaven and hell. I think zodiacs do truly show one's true self in a sense, I am a libra The great strength of the Libra-born is their quest for fairness, peace and harmony. That the Scales are the great diplomats of the zodiac further helps their case. A beautiful journey this will be, thanks to the Libra's inimitable sense of style. I really believe in that, I also feel that everyone has the right to believe in what they feel is right. I don't think its right for others to try and reinforce beliefs on another. yes you may think your way of thinking is better, but how does the person you're trying to change feel? sometimes it is a good thing to change religions, but to force it on another will never end in a good way. I also believe in the supernatural, werewolves vampires, demon, and angels. I know what my spirit animal is, and before you ask no i did not just take a test online to see what it was. I actually had a dream about it and i know what the dream means. i have the spirit of the gray wolf, that is my animal guide, and yes i am part cherokee indian.

Well this is my views, i know it's not the best, not even sure if this is what you wanted. but hey i gave it a try what more can you ask for.



I find your name ironic xp

But on a serious note, I as we'll don't believe in God or the Devil but do believe in Heaven and Hell.

I was raised Catholic/christian(can't remember been awhile since) I see substantial proof of both "Beings" existing.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:13 pm


i find it ironic how some of my fellow Christians don't believe in the supernatural and real magic when in our bible it states Jesus performing miracles and spirits and other magical things. I personally believe anythign is possible until proven so . so science can kiss my furry a**

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:48 am


Do I beleive in god? Yes I do. I don't really want to be part of a church. To controlling. I am part of a multiple system and two of our number are kitsune including myself. I have been dealing with the spiritual world since I was 13. I know the bare bones of magic and can cast a circle. I know the pentagram is a symbol of protection and it lives up to that name. I do what I can to keep myself and my friends safe from what goes bump in the night.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:25 pm


It warms my heart to see more belief in magick. To often I feel like everyone has forgotten that aspect of themselves. And on that note, magick is not a religion, it's life.

I don't believe there to be one "almighty" god. I believe in many gods and goddesses, all tending to their jobs of keeping balance in the Universe and helping souls find peace with themselves when they cross over to the After Life. I believe in a "Heaven" and a "Hell", but with that, I believe that a soul, for whichever place they land in will be in a personally invested place. If they should go too "Heaven" it will be their Heaven - how they would perceive it to be. And the same with "Hell".

I also believe that our signs have influence over our personalities. I also believe, seeing as most signs are in direct opposition of some other signs, that they'll have the tendency to be in conflict with one another. Take me, for example. My Zodiac sign is a Leo, but my Chinese Zodiac is a snake. I have my Leo's strength of Will, Heart, and love of adventure, but I am not a lover of being the center of attention. That's where my Snake sign comes in. Preferring peace and quiet, and being out of the spot-light. I don't want for being famous, it would certainly do me ill.  

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