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 Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:46 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:56 am
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:16 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:38 pm
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Noob of Legend I don't think it's wrong at all. Lust is a sin, not love. If you take a look at gay couples and lesbian couples, often times you can see true joy in them. God created Eve for Adam because only a man and a woman can reproduce, not because its only right for men and women to be together. Think about it, if God can cast away demons and take away temptation, then why are so many of us that are saved still attracted to our same sex? No matter the amount of prayers you give to God, your sexuality is as much a part of you as your flesh which God gave unto you. God is a God of love and mercy, if he sees the true joyful love between two men would he really stand in their way?
At the risk of starting something that's been done over and over and over, I feel that I have to ask you to produce Biblical evidence as to what you have stated. It's only fair, especially considering that the OP did ask for scriptures. Lean not upon your own understanding - Proverbs 3:5.
Wooglegoo_aka_Boo First off, this is a secondary account. I am posting it from this account so that my identity is hidden and stuff. Anyway, let's just get to the chase shall we? I'm bisexual. I am indeed a male. I have been struggling with this ever since I was a child! I did not know it was wrong because no one ever told me. Christ is now in my life, but I am still struggling with this sin. YES, being homosexual is a sin. How so? Well God created man and then created women to be a mans companionship (if that makes sense). If God saw that it was okay for man to be with man or women to be with women, why did he make both completely different sexes? Anyway, I know it's wrong and I'm trying not to act upon this sin ): It's tough. I don't know what else to say... I need help. Maybe encourage, Bible verses, and prayer will help. Thanks. Ask me questions if you will in a pm or here. I am willing to answer openly and honestly.
I'm rooting for you. It's very rare to see someone who actually tries to put God above their own physical desires.
John 5:30
I can do nothing on my own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
Think about what we're seeing here. Jesus doesn't seek His own will, He isn't trying to do what He wants. All He is doing is simply loving and obeying the Father. That's what you need to do. Love and obey the Father. Jesus did it, we do it, and one day we'll see each other in the next life. There's a sin I have that my flesh enjoys doing.
(My spirit is willing, but my flesh is weak - Matthew 26:41)
I don't want to get into great detail, but it's of the flesh as well. It gets at my conscience. Now, I'm not cheating on my wife or anything like that, but scriptures do say that if we look upon a woman with lust, we've already committed adultery in our hearts (Matthew 5:28 ). Just hang in there. Pray. Seek God, and find brothers and sisters who are a part of the church. Remember that this life is short, and our Father is waiting for us on the other side. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:27 pm
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The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot...
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:46 pm
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Noob of Legend The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot...
Specifically, I want you to show me where in the Bible it says that God won't punish a sin, even if we call it love. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:41 pm
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VK Fox Noob of Legend The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot... Specifically, I want you to show me where in the Bible it says that God won't punish a sin, even if we call it love. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:50 pm
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Noob of Legend You're Christian right? Like everyone else here? So then you know that if we believe in Christ that our sins are forgiven? If we truly believe in him, and if we are sorry for causing him any sorrow whether we know we are or not, then he'll forgive us. God only judges sin if you are unforgiven and unsaved.
I also believe in loving obedience to God. After all, Jesus said that if we love Him, we will obey His commands. I believe that you must continually apply yourself to Christ. You don't just "believe." Easy believism will get you nowhere. It is entirely possible to believe in Jesus and go to Hell. Just ask Satan, who will admit that Jesus is Lord.
Quote: In any case, I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe.
That is true. Make no mistake about it. However, it is out of love that I share what I know from my studies in the scriptures. If I hated gays, if I hated anyone, I wouldn't try to turn them from sin or encourage them. Jesus preached against sin, and it turned souls to Heaven. As someone who wants to be like his Lord, I have to try to do the same. Don't mistake it for hate, though it will offend you. You'll reject it or you'll accept it. I say what I see written down in the pages of the Bible. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote: But stop being so judgemental, judgement is as much a sin as any other. We'll both believe whatever we want to believe ok? If I want to believe that love truely conquers all, then I'll do so. If you want to be judgemental and a cynic, then by all means do so, but remember you are no better than those you pass judgement on. For the Bible does indeed say judge not lest ye be judged. Do you think God will punish you for eternity for acting judgemental?
The Bible says that you will be judged by the measure you use, not that you outright can't judge. We have to judge, because we are commanded to preach against sin and seek and save the lost. It's a simple command, but you have to be able to execute judgement to preform it. I'm not a cynic. I have my moments of pessimism, sure, but if you really want to say something that amounts to "do whatever you want, God will allow you to get away with it just because you say you believe in Jesus" you better have some biblical backing for it, especially when a brother is asking for help. (Like, no way, he just called someone who admitted to struggling with same sex attractions a brother!)
Quote: Surely not, because God is a God of Love AND Mercy... He recognizes love, and he accepts it. He also knows upon whom to be merciful.
God is absolutely a god of mercy. However, He is also a Holy god. You can't deny that. His holiness prohibits the presence of sin. That's very clear from Genesis 1 to the end of Revelations. Because He loves us, He had to figure a way to give an escape from the coming wrath His holiness and justness demands. That escape was Jesus. Sure, we aren't perfect. Yes, we struggle. I've admitted it time and time again, and even shared what I struggle with with the guild. I'm not pulling the "Omg, homosexuality is the worst sin ever!" card. Not by a long shot.
Quote: He will forgive His children, because he loves us so and because we love each other so, and because we love Him so
If you really loved Him, you'd obey Him. Fact, from the mouth of Jesus.
Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. John 14:23
There you go. A very valid, working definition of love in relation to God. The same God who time and time again has spoken against homosexuality. I don't pretend to understand why, not am I particularly interested in knowing why. All I know is that my Lord says no, and that's good enough.
Quote: Don't you see? Love conquers all, if it is true love.
If it is true love, it will act in obedience to God.
Quote: God's love is real, straight love is real, gay love is real... Please, lighten up and rejoice in the Lord with the rest of us. We do not hate you, so why must you hate us?
Call it what you want, it is sin. Very plain, very simple.
I do rejoice in the Lord. Every day I am amazed that He even lets me continue breathing, because if anyone deserves death, it's me. But He had a way out from sin. If I hated you, I wouldn't share that with you. Yeah, a lot of what God says is hard. A lot of it, let's be honest, sucks to hear. It's there, it's real, and we cannot ignore it. If you want to do so, then do so. At this point, it's up to you. Don't you dare try and mislead a brother when he's asking for help. It's not a joke. It's not a matter of a majority stepping on a minority. Our God is real, His word is real, and He means business. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:54 pm
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VK Fox Noob of Legend You're Christian right? Like everyone else here? So then you know that if we believe in Christ that our sins are forgiven? If we truly believe in him, and if we are sorry for causing him any sorrow whether we know we are or not, then he'll forgive us. God only judges sin if you are unforgiven and unsaved. I also believe in loving obedience to God. After all, Jesus said that if we love Him, we will obey His commands. I believe that you must continually apply yourself to Christ. You don't just "believe." Easy believism will get you nowhere. It is entirely possible to believe in Jesus and go to Hell. Just ask Satan, who will admit that Jesus is Lord. Quote: In any case, I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe. That is true. Make no mistake about it. However, it is out of love that I share what I know from my studies in the scriptures. If I hated gays, if I hated anyone, I wouldn't try to turn them from sin or encourage them. Jesus preached against sin, and it turned souls to Heaven. As someone who wants to be like his Lord, I have to try to do the same. Don't mistake it for hate, though it will offend you. You'll reject it or you'll accept it. I say what I see written down in the pages of the Bible. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote: But stop being so judgemental, judgement is as much a sin as any other. We'll both believe whatever we want to believe ok? If I want to believe that love truely conquers all, then I'll do so. If you want to be judgemental and a cynic, then by all means do so, but remember you are no better than those you pass judgement on. For the Bible does indeed say judge not lest ye be judged. Do you think God will punish you for eternity for acting judgemental? The Bible says that you will be judged by the measure you use, not that you outright can't judge. We have to judge, because we are commanded to preach against sin and seek and save the lost. It's a simple command, but you have to be able to execute judgement to preform it. I'm not a cynic. I have my moments of pessimism, sure, but if you really want to say something that amounts to "do whatever you want, God will allow you to get away with it just because you say you believe in Jesus" you better have some biblical backing for it, especially when a brother is asking for help. (Like, no way, he just called someone who admitted to struggling with same sex attractions a brother!) Quote: Surely not, because God is a God of Love AND Mercy... He recognizes love, and he accepts it. He also knows upon whom to be merciful. God is absolutely a god of mercy. However, He is also a Holy god. You can't deny that. His holiness prohibits the presence of sin. That's very clear from Genesis 1 to the end of Revelations. Because He loves us, He had to figure a way to give an escape from the coming wrath His holiness and justness demands. That escape was Jesus. Sure, we aren't perfect. Yes, we struggle. I've admitted it time and time again, and even shared what I struggle with with the guild. I'm not pulling the "Omg, homosexuality is the worst sin ever!" card. Not by a long shot. Quote: He will forgive His children, because he loves us so and because we love each other so, and because we love Him so If you really loved Him, you'd obey Him. Fact, from the mouth of Jesus. Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. John 14:23
There you go. A very valid, working definition of love in relation to God. The same God who time and time again has spoken against homosexuality. I don't pretend to understand why, not am I particularly interested in knowing why. All I know is that my Lord says no, and that's good enough. Quote: Don't you see? Love conquers all, if it is true love. If it is true love, it will act in obedience to God. Quote: God's love is real, straight love is real, gay love is real... Please, lighten up and rejoice in the Lord with the rest of us. We do not hate you, so why must you hate us? Call it what you want, it is sin. Very plain, very simple. I do rejoice in the Lord. Every day I am amazed that He even lets me continue breathing, because if anyone deserves death, it's me. But He had a way out from sin. If I hated you, I wouldn't share that with you. Yeah, a lot of what God says is hard. A lot of it, let's be honest, sucks to hear. It's there, it's real, and we cannot ignore it. If you want to do so, then do so. At this point, it's up to you. Don't you dare try and mislead a brother when he's asking for help. It's not a joke. It's not a matter of a majority stepping on a minority. Our God is real, His word is real, and He means business. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:38 pm
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Noob of Legend The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot...
*The love that these verses speak of, the holy pure love of God, is different than 'that' kind of love. A man loving a woman in 'that' way is different than how you would love your parent, siblings, friends, a homeless person out on the street, an orphaned child, any person you know or don't know.
"In the Greek New Testament, there are three different words used which can be translated by the English word "love":
agapê (love, charity) and words derived from it
philia (friendship, love) and words derived from it
storgê (natural affection), only as astorgos (lacking natural affection) in Ro.1:31 and 2Tim.3:3.
The translations given in parentheses are those one would find most often as explanations of the difference between these words. It should not be taken for granted that these renderings are indeed correct in all contexts.
A fourth Greek word for "love", eros (attraction, sexual love) is not found in the Greek NT, neither the word itself nor as root of another word."Reference
*Look at verses that specifically talk about the types of relationships you are talking about. Verses on marriage, and such. If you notice, those verses always speak in terms of a man and woman relationship. Basically implying that is what the Lord wants. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so specific, yes? It would be simply, Ex:"1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each person should have their own spouse." But the verse is "1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband." |
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:57 pm
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Br1ttana Noob of Legend The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot... *The love that these verses speak of, the holy pure love of God, is different than ' that' kind of love. A man loving a woman in ' that' way is different than how you would love your parent, siblings, friends, a homeless person out on the street, an orphaned child, any person you know or don't know. "In the Greek New Testament, there are three different words used which can be translated by the English word "love": agapê (love, charity) and words derived from it philia (friendship, love) and words derived from it storgê (natural affection), only as astorgos (lacking natural affection) in Ro.1:31 and 2Tim.3:3. The translations given in parentheses are those one would find most often as explanations of the difference between these words. It should not be taken for granted that these renderings are indeed correct in all contexts. A fourth Greek word for "love", eros (attraction, sexual love) is not found in the Greek NT, neither the word itself nor as root of another word." Reference*Look at verses that specifically talk about the types of relationships you are talking about. Verses on marriage, and such. If you notice, those verses always speak in terms of a man and woman relationship. Basically implying that is what the Lord wants. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so specific, yes? It would be simply, Ex:"1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each person should have their own spouse." But the verse is "1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband." |
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:08 pm
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Noob of Legend Br1ttana Noob of Legend The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot... *The love that these verses speak of, the holy pure love of God, is different than ' that' kind of love. A man loving a woman in ' that' way is different than how you would love your parent, siblings, friends, a homeless person out on the street, an orphaned child, any person you know or don't know. "In the Greek New Testament, there are three different words used which can be translated by the English word "love": agapê (love, charity) and words derived from it philia (friendship, love) and words derived from it storgê (natural affection), only as astorgos (lacking natural affection) in Ro.1:31 and 2Tim.3:3. The translations given in parentheses are those one would find most often as explanations of the difference between these words. It should not be taken for granted that these renderings are indeed correct in all contexts. A fourth Greek word for "love", eros (attraction, sexual love) is not found in the Greek NT, neither the word itself nor as root of another word." Reference*Look at verses that specifically talk about the types of relationships you are talking about. Verses on marriage, and such. If you notice, those verses always speak in terms of a man and woman relationship. Basically implying that is what the Lord wants. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so specific, yes? It would be simply, Ex:"1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each person should have their own spouse." But the verse is "1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband." I am saddened to hear that even the very Captain is against everything I am about... Sexual immorality is just another way of saying lust, but that's not what homosexuality is about for me... :/ I want to find love, and yes I want to find it with another male. If God himself tells me not to do it, I'll reluctantly accept the news, and if he is ok with it then I'll gladly see you up in heaven and I hope you wouldn't have a problem with it...
--Pre...warning? sweatdrop I REALLY hope my post doesn't come off...Off-putting? I posted this as lightly as I could, because I really do love and care about you. If you want to continue in your opinion, then I can not stop you. I can only tell you what I feel the Lord has taught me through His word and other sources from Him over the years. If I see you in Heaven, then I guess we were all wrong and I will give you a huge hug. ^_^ <3 --
If I see you up in heaven, then of course I won't have a problem with it, because if you're up there then obviously the Lord said "Come on in. Good and Faithful servant."
I love you as I am supposed to love everyone. Jesus loved everyone regardless of what they done or were doing to the point of eating with people that, even though it never says this in the Bible, I am sure probably made the pharisees faint in public. My own doctor is lesbian who is married to her partner who has her own kid. I would never think of going to someone else simply because she feels that way. She's a great doctor and it has no influence on her work or who she is.
However, I know that it is a sinful temptation. Just simply feeling those types of feeling in and of itself is not a sin. If I feel a desire to sleep with a guy, would that make me sinning? If I looked at him lustfully however, Jesus mentions that specifically. If I felt like stabbing a knife into my heart or anyone else's, would I immediately be sinning? If I walked out with a few purses because I didn't remember I had them on my shoulder and the store clerk didn't notice them, but I felt like keeping this 'free deal', would I be sinning? These would all be temptations, that I do something about. I either act upon them or I turn to the Lord and do what is right in His eyes. I say "NO!" to my desires to sleep with that man until I am in a marriage with him. I say "No!" to that desire to pick up that knife and walk away. I say "No!" to that desire to drive away with those 'free' purses, and walk back in to the clerk to tell her my mistake, then proceed to pay for them.
We look to the Lord and see what he sees as good in His eyes. What he tells us specifically in His word is what is good and bad for us. Not because he has fun throwing a bunch of rules at us. But because he wants us to have healthy, God fearing lives, that will reap us an eternal reward of being with Him in heaven forever and ever. That's why He gives us the Bible. It is our instruction book for life. B=Basic I=Instructions B-Before L-Leaving E=Earth.
I have heard of people coming to the Lord, including the OP who WANT to turn away from this. If it wasn't bad, if it was perfectly alright, then why would it bother them in the first place? Why would they WANT help turning away from it? And why would God be so specific in His wording in the Bible? Why would they feel so convicted of such a thing? Not only this, but I have heard of these people being successful in turning away from this. They have asked the Lord to save them from what they(not me or anyone else, but they) feel is hurting their relationship with the Lord and the Lord does help them. Again, if there wasn't a problem, then there wouldn't be these situations, yes? I'm just thinking logically here. sweatdrop
Everyone wants someone in their life. But Paul says that it's better to be single than married, because instead of focusing on that relationship, you will be focusing on strengthening your relationship with the Lord. Not saying that you shouldn't get married, (the verse I mentioned in my previous post proves that) but just that not everyone does need to get married or is going to get married. Perhaps the Lord has an even better plan for them that would get complicated with a family or would simply cause too many distractions for them to stay true to His word and plan. Maybe, he has a stronger purpose for the OP than to get married to man or woman.
--I REALLY hope my post doesn't come off...Off-putting? I posted this as lightly as I could, because I really do love and care about you. If you want to continue in your opinion, then I can not stop you. I can only tell you what I feel the Lord has taught me through His word over the years. If I see you in Heaven, then we were all wrong. <3 -- and peace truly. *Offers a hug?* : ) |
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:00 pm
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Noob of Legend Br1ttana Noob of Legend The bible says alot of things, quite a few of which we don't follow anymore because the times have changed. But if you really want me to give you bible quotes about why love is good, even if it's between a man and a man or a woman, then I'll be happy to oblige. I john 4:7 "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God." I john 4:16 "And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." You can throw all the antigay quotes you want, but you cannot deny the power of these words... God is a god of love, never forget that. Even if it's a sin, couldn't he forgive us if its done out of love? I understand that you may all think that it's wrong, but if you think a little harder, couldn't you finally understand that there is nothing wrong with love??? I want to find love, and I don't care how many people tell me I cannot... *The love that these verses speak of, the holy pure love of God, is different than ' that' kind of love. A man loving a woman in ' that' way is different than how you would love your parent, siblings, friends, a homeless person out on the street, an orphaned child, any person you know or don't know. "In the Greek New Testament, there are three different words used which can be translated by the English word "love": agapê (love, charity) and words derived from it philia (friendship, love) and words derived from it storgê (natural affection), only as astorgos (lacking natural affection) in Ro.1:31 and 2Tim.3:3. The translations given in parentheses are those one would find most often as explanations of the difference between these words. It should not be taken for granted that these renderings are indeed correct in all contexts. A fourth Greek word for "love", eros (attraction, sexual love) is not found in the Greek NT, neither the word itself nor as root of another word." Reference*Look at verses that specifically talk about the types of relationships you are talking about. Verses on marriage, and such. If you notice, those verses always speak in terms of a man and woman relationship. Basically implying that is what the Lord wants. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so specific, yes? It would be simply, Ex:"1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each person should have their own spouse." But the verse is "1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband." I am saddened to hear that even the very Captain is against everything I am about... Sexual immorality is just another way of saying lust, but that's not what homosexuality is about for me... :/ I want to find love, and yes I want to find it with another male. If God himself tells me not to do it, I'll reluctantly accept the news, and if he is ok with it then I'll gladly see you up in heaven and I hope you wouldn't have a problem with it...
I think the point here was that you were saying that God's in support of love. What's being pointed out is that He's not. There's different kinds of love, and I've seen examples where any kind of love that isn't agape can get in between a person and God. If you're parents or your friends or your spouse are more important to you than Him, though you might love them, that's wrong. (Luke 14:26)
That being said, we all sin. It's a fact of our lives. I know of at least one area in my life that still needs cleaning up that I haven't let go of yet. God's our Father and He allows us time to grow and change. He brings us through seasons in order to break off sinful behaviors from us. So whether you believe homosexuality is wrong or not, why don't you ask Him to reveal your faults to you and show you what He wants you to change? You don't have to hear homosexuality is a sin from us; as long as your life is completely surrendered to Him, He'll keep you on the path of righteousness. ^_^ |
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