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MintyDinosaur

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:08 pm


I have two problems right now:
-I am having a terribly long and difficult art-block [as in a few years]
-My art does not seem to progress

I will go into detail on each in a moment, but first I would like to mention that any resources, ideas, or constructive criticism would be much appreciated! I take criticism fairly well as long as it's helpful.

Also, I will update on tips and stuff as well so for anyone who sees this that may be having similar problems can hopefully find something useful in here.

Lack of Creativity:

As far as my artist block goes, I have barely created/finished any original work in years.
-I can't seem to find inspiration in anything

-Whenever I do get an idea, it either turns out terribly on paper or I can't keep a solid image in my mind long enough to draw it out.
Example: [X] I cannot figure out what I hate about the structure of his face, no matter how many times I re-do the picture, I still hate it!

-I'm often afraid to start pieces cause I am afraid to put all the work into them for them to turn out like crap

-I practice and practice and practice drawing an idea, and it seems to get worse instead of better

-I feel like I've lost my creativity



Skill Progression:
And as far as lack of art progression goes, I'm not looking to be the best, I'm just looking to be able to physically illustrate my imagination/feelings/etc. [there's gonna be a lot here]
Deviantart Gallery for samples: [X]

-My proportions are off but I found a great website that has helped me improve drastically: [X] [I'll post my sketches of the improvements on it later]

-My faces seem flat, and even if I try an expression, it usually ends up vacant

-My poses are too rigid

-I have a TERRIBLE time choosing skintones. And I can't do colored skintones, like with blues or warm colors without the person looking like an alien. Instead of using "white-light" all the time, I would like to be able to achieve color effects such as these artists use here: [X] [X]

-I can't stick with a style other than my semi-realism. Sometimes it's fun to draw chibis or cartoony or anime styles, but I can't seem to stick to a style either way

-All I can draw is people. I try drawing animals or backgrounds, but I often feel overwhelmed at the detail and I'm not sure where to even begin trying to tackle these problems. Even if they don't look realistic

-I have a hard time finding good reference pictures. DA is too full of "facebook" pictures to find many decent ones. and often times the good ones aren't at the angle I want or they are in lighting where it's difficult to determine the contours of the face/body/etc [like blending into the bg]



I'll organize this all better later, and add more details as I think of things
And again, any help is greatly appreciated!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:10 pm


Thanks You's & Resources:


Thank you!
~Thank you, Nuna, for your help and insight on why I should step out of my comfort zone! I see now that that's why I can't draw anything I find inspiring!!

~Thank you, Kai_Chi, I now realize starting over can sometimes be better and that I have to keep PRACTICE in mind rather than perfection!!

~Thank you, Lady Button, for the awesome reference! And the 'draw a random word a day' is a great way to try new things in a less serious and less pressured way!!

~Thank you, Vanna1994, for helping with an important motivational aspect! Looking at other, better artist's work I like makes me try harder to improve. Though when it puts me down thinking I'll never get better, you're right bout looking at your past works to see your improvement already!

Resources!
~Dynamic Pose Tutorial
Posted by Lady Button [p.1]

MintyDinosaur

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MintyDinosaur

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:11 pm


Current WIPs:

Thanks to everyone's support and feedback so far, I have stepped outside my comfort zone! And way far. I am in the process of digitally painting a landscape, full background and no people involved and I'm finding it to be a lot of fun and I know it's not great so far but it's a start 3nodding

Tada!

Definately not finished so don't mind the bridge especially. But I think if it keeps going well, I will use it as an environmental image for my b/c shop :3
Any feedback or a critique on this piece would be greatly appreciated!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:13 pm


Okay, I think that's all the space I'll be needing.
Any help would be awesome ;-;

MintyDinosaur

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Nuna
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:40 am


Okay. I've been exactly where you are. And I still teeter back and forth. I think most artists hit a stage where they realize that art is a lot harder, and more discouraging then it was when they were making gigantic leaps and bounds, and improving left and right.

First of all stop using your lack of inspiration as a crutch. Not attempting something simply because you don't think it will turn out the way you envisioned? Who's to say it wont turn out to be something better? Or perhaps something in the process will inspire you to take it in another direction. Being able to recreate exactly what you see in your mind is a finely honed skill that only comes with a lot of time and dedication. Possibly even schooling. I can almost guarantee you that your favorite artists on gaia or deviantart have the same issues and insecurities you do. Most artists are NOT able to recreate what they see in their heads, but they can carry across some of the same essense, and feeling. That's the beauty of it honestly. Not knowing what you'll create next. Inspiration is just that, something to get you started. It's up to your mind, and the process to determine how it ends.

When you get an idea run with it, don't worry about where it will end up in the end. You should never, NEVER choose not to draw something because you don't think it will turn out. Everything you do will be a learning experience, and none of it is a waste of time. Part of your art not progressing is your unwillingness to attempt things. If you're trying to compose something on paper, and it just isn't turning out, take a break. Do something else for awhile. Maybe look at some of your favorite artists work, or listen to music, and then go back to it. If that doesn't work, then stop trying to plan the entire thing, and just go with it. Start drawing. Don't worry about what you'll end up with. Just focus on what your drawing now. If in the end you don't like it, no big deal. Move on to the next thing.

As for branching out? The only advice I can give you is just do it. Read a few books about it, look up tutorials, do whatever you need to, to get yourself started. Once you start, its okay to stop for awhile. It's okay to never come back to it. Each time you'll get a little bit further, learn something new, and it will seem less daunting. This holds true for anything new you try. You may be a fantastic artist, but you can't expect to be able to do something new perfectly right away. You'll have to work your way up to it, the same way you did with what your comfortable drawing now.

I think your biggest problem is that you've fallen into your comfort zone and you're using it as a crutch to prevent yourself from stepping out of it. The only way you're going to get yourself out of this rut is by allowing yourself to start over again.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:55 am


Ah thank you so much, Nuna!! I never really thought of things that way!

And about it being a learning experience is definately true, it's such a basic idea that maybe a lot of artists forget about. Well at least I did D:
But you have just inspired me to try drawing something I had in a dream ^-^ I never tried it before as I said, because I was afraid it wouldn't turn out. It's simple but hopefully it will be a step 3nodding
Thank you so much again!!

MintyDinosaur

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:57 am


I wish I could tip posts on guild forums, Nuna. @_@
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:44 pm


woosh.... ok
: 3 I understand where your coming from. And I have a suggestion, and I hope it can help you

I suggest maybe going back to the basics. By this I mean try pushing your self on the more simple things instead of focusing to push the more complex. Your looking to improve your art style, your looking to try new art styles, and to develop your creativity... but your feeling stomped because your drawings aren't coming out as you want them to. I think your drawings aren't comming out as well as you'd like them to, because your trying to acheieve a certain level of perfection in your pieces? So why not try looking at your art work as practice instead of something that needs to be final. Try working on one subject at a time instead of incorporating "everything" into the same drawing... Stop taking commissions, take a break, and work on drawings that you'd like to draw. If you have a little fantasy in your head or something you like drawing... draw that instead. And don't think of it as something you have to make perfect... think of it as more practice. Who cares if it dosen't come out nice, or beautiful, its just practice right? Just draw a little, and when you see things aren't going the way you want it to, don't stop working on the drawing... but more change what your working on... if the face isen't coming out nice, then sweitch to the hair, and try a few tutorials, or try to make the hair look the best you can, and again if it dosen't work... its no biggy, its just practice, and keep reminding yourself of this.

From what I read, you seem really swamped with many expectations you have for yourself, and I think its good to have expectations, but when you have so many you stop your self from going forward, which is no good.

If you lack creativity... try reproducing a few images instead of drawing from the top of your mind. Sometimes your mind just needs a break from it all... and the best way to go back with out loosing is reproducing art work that exist already. Keep it to yourself, its not for display or anyone else, its just to practice with. Often when you reproduce images you pick up on a few things the artist did to make there drawing so wounderfull... which later on you can incorporate into your own drawings.
You have troubles getting more volumes in your forms, try looking at really well rendered pencil sketchs of faces and stuff... see were the artist put his shading and were he put his high lights... its in observations like this, were you'll notice and find things you can do to make your drawing even better. If you want you can even put your image in grey scale, and compaire your drawing to the other artist... and try and find the differences between your volumes and theres... see if theres anything you can do to make your drawing better : 3

If you want more fluid posings. Take the time to find images with fluid mouvements in them. A good starting point would be animation sketchs or gymnastic posings... even greek statues would be a nice reference because they have movement in there posings... another thing you could try is filming yourself doing different movements on cam. And then playing back your video frame by frame with quick time. Once you've got a few posings set up, try practice

With references it works the same way pose yourself in front of a cam... and use yourself as the model. You'll get the posing and position you want first try instead of loosing hours trying to find the poses online : )

now.... skin tones.... are a tricky thing... especially if your looking to add different colours in them... because mastering colours is hard from the start. So if your having a hard time with this... relax cause its only normal : 3. I suggest tackeling this subject slowly. Before you star,t know that your body has many vains and different pigments through out the skin that gives you different variants in colours everywhere. Start by trying to add cold colours into your shadows (purples, blues and greens) and keeping your skin with more warm colours like yellows, oranges, pinks and browns. Practice this a few times on practice sheets... as you start to become more familier with your colours you can then try exploring your colours more... maybe try adding some greens into your warmer tones to creat a small contrast and so on. Its important to play with the level of intensity (opacity) of these colours as well... you want something suttle, but not so suttle you don't even see it... but not so much that you can't focus on anything else cause its litteraly "in your face" this might take you a few tries before you get the hang of it as well : 3

Kai_Chi
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MintyDinosaur

Sparkly Gekko

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:49 pm


Kai_Chi-- Thank you so much!!! I think that you are totally right about the high expectations and perfectionist thing >w< I will definately have to try keeping the practice thing in my mind, I think it will make a huge difference after it sinks in!

Yeah I will definately have to find my camera, though it's hard cause people comment on my off proportions when I draw but it's cause I'm drawing too close to my own body type and it's definately far from perfect X3 I usually just do that for hands and stuff


Ahhh so picking it apart to really notice the color variations is a great way to do that!! Maybe I won't be able to do anything extreme or as interesting yet, but it's definately a great start!! Thank you so much for all of your wonderful tips!!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:47 pm


I have similar issues. I draw my hands based on my own. Someone once told me I didn't define the wrist bones enough when portraying the transition from arm to hand. But my own wrist bones are barely distinguishable from my arm. My wrist

Nuna
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MintyDinosaur

Sparkly Gekko

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:04 am


Nuna-- yeah exactly!! My problem ends up being that the legs are too short and fat >w< lol
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:53 am


If you haven't already, you should check out Warren Louw and deviant art and take a peek at his Strike a Pose tutorial doodad. I love it and it's very much helped me :D
Also, here's a little something you could do; Draw every day, a picture a day for a year. It's what I'm doing! Find a random word generator and get a word a day. It's working pretty well for me, even if there's some seriously frustrating words and I have NO clue what to draw for them. I've gotten like 5 of those suckers, but I push myself to draw and continue to draw, even if it doesn't turn out how I want it to C:


sugasu


Chicky Wrangler


MintyDinosaur

Sparkly Gekko

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:13 pm


Lady Button-- OMG thank you so much!! That pose reference is amazing!! Definately what I need for dynamic poses!

And I do draw a lot of pictures everyday, but they're usually the same....people and the few animals I can draw XD But the random work is a great idea! Thank you so much! A great way to keep my occupied in class and expand my horizons at the same time!! ^-^
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:20 pm


I started a landscape piece. Different from people as what I'm used to, and I think it will help with colored lighting as I'm using a yellow tone.
It's not as strict of a method as I use for people so it's really fun and relaxing.

MintyDinosaur

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sugasu


Chicky Wrangler

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:36 pm


Oh ho ho! Glad I could be of help :D
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