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 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:12 am
So I was just on the Lady Gaga forum, and posted in an opinion thread. I had responded to someone saying that the Alejandro video was a Santanic, and that Lady Gaga was a freak. I responded saying that the video actually has a religious basis, which it does.
Now, while I was gone, someone replied to my post saying that I was in denial, and that the video was purely Satanic, "irreverently disrespectful," and that "anyone who's anyone" does it these days.
If anyone had payed attention to the video, it definitely has some Satanic symbolism in it, but it also has some symbolism of Salvation and of being Holy. The whole idea to the video is Spiritual Salvation vs Dark Forces. A key example is at the end of the video, where in her nun outfit, her face disintegrates. That image symbolizes letting go of any evil in one's self and taking in the holy. Had anyone also given the time to research that, they'd have known that.
So really? How am I in denial when even the producer of the video explains it that way? Hmm?
What did you guys think of Alejandro?
[EDIT] Yes, I see the typo in my poll. Dx
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:04 am
When I first saw the video I thought it was just a little like softcore porn in parts. Then after going on Tumblr I totally had this "can't be unseen" moment.  Yeah, totally no religious, but quite funny. I never looked too deeply into what was going on in the video. I usually spend most of my time trying to prove to my mom that she is a she. (Come on, her boobs look totally real, and her curves.) The end of the video seemed very Madonna Vogue to me. Everything is on the surface for me. People just wanna be GaGa bashers cause they wish they were her.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:25 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:01 pm
Oh my god, Rose. That image is flippin' hillarious.
The end did! I love Vogue...*Madonna moment*, but yeah. It did seem that way.
I guess people are just cruelly jealous. :/
@Senri - Have an issue? :)
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:23 pm
I'm even more shallow than you guys - rather than ponder the psychological or religious message being expressed in the video, I think, "Nuns, pvc and begging have never really been my thing, but I can get behind the pseudo-non-con and the ropes." heart sweatdrop
ninja Don't judge me.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:55 pm
~*~
Doesn't she like, eat a rosary or something?
I don't know.
I don't pay much attention to modern music.
~*~
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:48 pm
Nun Outfit? O_____o
Now I'm... traumatized.
Sorry. I kinda lost touch. ><
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:58 pm
[Yes..I agree....But I also think she [Lady Gaga] had to chose between Alejondro, Fernando, & Romerdo!.....
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:34 pm
@Lychee - Haha, that's alright! smile <3
@Dris - Yes, actually. Well...she more of just put it in her mouth. That was actually a physical representation of "taking in the holy."
@Maurice - Haha, yyyeahhh. It's Lady Gaga we're talking about. What can you expect?
@Chu - Well it would definitely seem that way in the lyrics. smile
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:30 pm
Den Dristige Djevelen ~*~
I don't pay much attention to modern music.
~*~ DRIS BE MY BFF. XD I only know of one song by her and it was so incredibly annoying that I was offended by her name. XD She doesn't have an overly feminine face, but I get annoyed when people say that women are trannies because they aren't conventionally pretty. confused
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:50 pm
I know really very little about her. I will say however that she's pretty hot. The owner of a fine a**.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:54 pm
It's Roberto. I was like... wait what the hell kinda name is Romerdo. That's not right!
I ended up seeing the music video the day it came out. Kinda creeped me out.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:13 pm
ugh, i've been trying to stray from the forums. some people are just so immature and so "NO, I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE JUST STUPID or I'M CLEARLY JOKING SO STOP BEING STUPID or YOU ARE SO WRONG CUZ YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME" that i just got annoyed. i wouldn't recommend paying too much attention to them.
as for the video, i haven't seen it, but i'm pretty sick of all these artists defending the symbolism in their videos. i mean, it becomes controversy, so they defend it, but they could have prevented it in the first place if they had simply chosen a more obvious way of conveying their message. i dunno. it's not that i want to put down creativity or anything, but really, the video shouldn't be as important to people as the music itself. the artist (in my opinion) shouldn't have to concern themselves with the symbolism in the video so much that it becomes an issue, because they could use the lyrics as their symbolic creative outlet.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:31 pm
@forgotten: If an artist's work isn't offensive to someone, the artist is not doing his job. It's a paraphrase. I can't for the life of me remember how the original quote goes. ^^;
I don't think Gaga's videos are important enough to cure cancer or bring about a lasting major cultural revolution, but I do think nobody would care half as much as they do about her and her music if she didn't make her videos sexy and/or controversial. She's displaying pretty good marketing & business sense there - or she's really lucky that someone who knows what they're doing chose her instead of somebody else. Either way, the controversy sells records. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:57 pm
Helpful Cait Sith I don't think Gaga's videos are important enough to cure cancer or bring about a lasting major cultural revolution, but I do think nobody would care half as much as they do about her and her music if she didn't make her videos sexy and/or controversial. She's displaying pretty good marketing & business sense there - or she's really lucky that someone who knows what they're doing chose her instead of somebody else. Either way, the controversy sells records. 3nodding I have to agree with that, I don't really like her music or her style, but I do respect her as an artist and a businesswoman, also for being able to keep doing what she does after so many rumors and critis. Besides, I have to admit she's kinda good looking when she looks less extravagant. =P
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