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 Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:05 pm
Let's face it, bush was a bad president. I'm not trying to say Obama is good, but bush was truly an awful president.
I could get charts and statistics and explain this to you, but seriously, anyone who thinks he's good isn't the brightest.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:24 pm
Well, no one says Bush was perfect--he didn't get immigration reform right and by turning the other cheek, pretty much allowed all who despise him to pretty much define him however they wanted (anyone who follows politics knows turning the other cheek is tantamount to political suicide)--this is why so much of the left's trains of thought have become so prevalent.
Whether peeps like or hate him, I'm believe that history will judge him better than any of us do. He's no Reagan, but for someone who kept our nation safe for eight years, kept above the political spite shot at him when the left politicized Hurricane Katrina to help the victims of said natural disaster (even with the delays and all but peeps forget FEMA is NOT a first-responder of any kind--that's what the local peeps are supposed to be), and helped put down the groundwork for the democratic Iraq we have today (obviously still in progress, but remember the U.S. wasn't built in a day either.) by clearing Saddam and crew out, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:07 pm
CrazyBunnyShota Well, no one says Bush was perfect--he didn't get immigration reform right and by turning the other cheek, pretty much allowed all who despise him to pretty much define him however they wanted (anyone who follows politics knows turning the other cheek is tantamount to political suicide)--this is why so much of the left's trains of thought have become so prevalent. Whether peeps like or hate him, I'm believe that history will judge him better than any of us do. He's no Reagan, but for someone who kept our nation safe for eight years, kept above the political spite shot at him when the left politicized Hurricane Katrina to help the victims of said natural disaster (even with the delays and all but peeps forget FEMA is NOT a first-responder of any kind--that's what the local peeps are supposed to be), and helped put down the groundwork for the democratic Iraq we have today (obviously still in progress, but remember the U.S. wasn't built in a day either.) by clearing Saddam and crew out, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. a) He's definitely no Regan b) He kept our nation safe for 8 years? I'd say the War in Iraq made more people hate us than ever. c) Incidentally, if taxes were higher the levies wouldn't have broken during Katrina. Bush lowered taxes. d) We have a democratic Iraq? Everywhere the US goes it ******** up the country awfully. Iraq is no exception.
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:48 pm
Dubya wasn't the worst president, that title is a tie between FDR and Wilson, but he was a terrible president none the less.
He expanded our debt and took us into Iraq. Our (the west) meddling in the middle east is what helped create the terrorism to begin with.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:15 pm
I did a cow a) He's definitely no Regan b) He kept our nation safe for 8 years? I'd say the War in Iraq made more people hate us than ever. c) Incidentally, if taxes were higher the levies wouldn't have broken during Katrina. Bush lowered taxes. d) We have a democratic Iraq? Everywhere the US goes it ******** up the country awfully. Iraq is no exception. You're not the brightest banana in the bunch. I'll tell you a few things. Higher taxes= less revenue, Reagan proved that. Tax cuts encourage growth in the business sector, which encourages hiring people, which encourages spending (because people have money), which gains more revenue. If you knew Reaganomics, you'd know that. The war in Iraq? Those people would hate us either way. Muslims are taught that they must either convert people to their faith, or kill them. I'm not saying that all Muslims are murderers, but that's what they're taught. They also believe that by blowing themselves and the "infidels" up, they become martyrs for their cause, and will be rewarded by Allah in the after-life. It's rather disturbing. Oh, and Saddam Hussein was trying to bring about the 12th Imam, or Armageddon. Because we exist, we must be destroyed according to them. It wouldn't matter if we hadn't meddled. About the levies, Mayor Nagin embezzled money. The military and several others told him that he needed to fix the levies, and he wouldn't. Katrina was not Bush's fault. And, about the US screwing things up wherever we go, it's because of mismanagement and unwillingness to change on the part of the leaders of the people we're trying to change. Bush did a lot of stupid things and had quite a few bad policies, but he was a good man. Don't forget that he had a democratic congress, too. I get so sick and tired of Bush bashing. If you really want to do that, why don't you switch to a Democrat, Liberal, or Progressive Guild. I'm sure they have plenty of Bush-bashing there. Look, Bush wasn't a very good president, I think everyone admits that. However, you don't need to keep bashing him. It's idiotic and useless at this point. He's been out of office for two years now. Get over yourself.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:55 pm
NosferatuGirl I did a cow a) He's definitely no Regan b) He kept our nation safe for 8 years? I'd say the War in Iraq made more people hate us than ever. c) Incidentally, if taxes were higher the levies wouldn't have broken during Katrina. Bush lowered taxes. d) We have a democratic Iraq? Everywhere the US goes it ******** up the country awfully. Iraq is no exception. You're not the brightest banana in the bunch. I'll tell you a few things. Higher taxes= less revenue, Reagan proved that. Tax cuts encourage growth in the business sector, which encourages hiring people, which encourages spending (because people have money), which gains more revenue. If you knew Reaganomics, you'd know that. The war in Iraq? Those people would hate us either way. Muslims are taught that they must either convert people to their faith, or kill them. I'm not saying that all Muslims are murderers, but that's what they're taught. They also believe that by blowing themselves and the "infidels" up, they become martyrs for their cause, and will be rewarded by Allah in the after-life. It's rather disturbing. Oh, and Saddam Hussein was trying to bring about the 12th Imam, or Armageddon. Because we exist, we must be destroyed according to them. It wouldn't matter if we hadn't meddled. About the levies, Mayor Nagin embezzled money. The military and several others told him that he needed to fix the levies, and he wouldn't. Katrina was not Bush's fault. And, about the US screwing things up wherever we go, it's because of mismanagement and unwillingness to change on the part of the leaders of the people we're trying to change. Bush did a lot of stupid things and had quite a few bad policies, but he was a good man. Don't forget that he had a democratic congress, too. I get so sick and tired of Bush bashing. If you really want to do that, why don't you switch to a Democrat, Liberal, or Progressive Guild. I'm sure they have plenty of Bush-bashing there. Look, Bush wasn't a very good president, I think everyone admits that. However, you don't need to keep bashing him. It's idiotic and useless at this point. He's been out of office for two years now. Get over yourself. Which is why even with the screw-ups he made, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. As I mentioned earlier, his biggest mistake was not responding to his critics very well. I should also mention another reason the levies failed is due to legal obstructions groups like the Sierra Club placed, which not only got in the way of the Army Corps of Engineers but also makes it look like they're at fault. (I would mention that there's nothing in any of the media outlets that signals Obama paying any attention to the flood that screwed up Tennessee real badly over last week but that deserves a thread of its own) Anyways, I do wish George Bush a happy and comfortable post-Presidency life--eight years in the Office of the President can really take a toll on a person and his family. o.o
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:46 pm
NosferatuGirl I did a cow a) He's definitely no Regan b) He kept our nation safe for 8 years? I'd say the War in Iraq made more people hate us than ever. c) Incidentally, if taxes were higher the levies wouldn't have broken during Katrina. Bush lowered taxes. d) We have a democratic Iraq? Everywhere the US goes it ******** up the country awfully. Iraq is no exception. You're not the brightest banana in the bunch. I'll tell you a few things. Higher taxes= less revenue, Reagan proved that. Tax cuts encourage growth in the business sector, which encourages hiring people, which encourages spending (because people have money), which gains more revenue. If you knew Reaganomics, you'd know that. The war in Iraq? Those people would hate us either way. Muslims are taught that they must either convert people to their faith, or kill them. I'm not saying that all Muslims are murderers, but that's what they're taught. They also believe that by blowing themselves and the "infidels" up, they become martyrs for their cause, and will be rewarded by Allah in the after-life. It's rather disturbing. Oh, and Saddam Hussein was trying to bring about the 12th Imam, or Armageddon. Because we exist, we must be destroyed according to them. It wouldn't matter if we hadn't meddled. About the levies, Mayor Nagin embezzled money. The military and several others told him that he needed to fix the levies, and he wouldn't. Katrina was not Bush's fault. And, about the US screwing things up wherever we go, it's because of mismanagement and unwillingness to change on the part of the leaders of the people we're trying to change. Bush did a lot of stupid things and had quite a few bad policies, but he was a good man. Don't forget that he had a democratic congress, too. I get so sick and tired of Bush bashing. If you really want to do that, why don't you switch to a Democrat, Liberal, or Progressive Guild. I'm sure they have plenty of Bush-bashing there. Look, Bush wasn't a very good president, I think everyone admits that. However, you don't need to keep bashing him. It's idiotic and useless at this point. He's been out of office for two years now. Get over yourself. hahahahahah Reaganomics is a joke. All it is about is the deregulation of the market which allows exploitation to run a rampage. Remember Enron? That is a perfect example of Reaganomics and the effects of deregulation. Speaking about Muslims killing the people who do not convert is the same way that the Christians did to the non-converts. Oh and remember that Christians and Muslims praise the same God so I do not know why many people bash the Muslims. The majority of the Muslims in the world are not even in the Middle East. It is in Indonesia. Saddam Hussein was kept into power by the United States just like it did with the Shaa of Iraq, but then when they see that it is not beneficial to them, they go and invade. It's pretty pathetic. The US has done this to so many countries when things do not go its way. Just ask Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Grenada, Bolivia, Cuba, and Panama. Iraq is no different. Bush is an idiot because he screwed up so much.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:51 pm
He was still better than any democrat since F.D.R.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 4:06 pm
Chaotik Joker RP He was still better than any democrat since F.D.R. You either have to be joking or are completely not connected with reality.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:34 am
Holy Rocker101 Chaotik Joker RP He was still better than any democrat since F.D.R. You either have to be joking or are completely not connected with reality. See, this is what I'm talking about. It's one thing to disagree with someone (and for the record, I do believe Bush was better than any Democrat since F.D.R, currently researching John F. Kennedy some more before I make a call on what he did during his Presidency), but to make the statement that Chaotik Joker RP, or any conservative is either joking or not connected with reality is just uncalled for--in my book, that just crosses the line.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:31 am
CrazyBunnyShota Holy Rocker101 Chaotik Joker RP He was still better than any democrat since F.D.R. You either have to be joking or are completely not connected with reality. See, this is what I'm talking about. It's one thing to disagree with someone (and for the record, I do believe Bush was better than any Democrat since F.D.R, currently researching John F. Kennedy some more before I make a call on what he did during his Presidency), but to make the statement that Chaotik Joker RP, or any conservative is either joking or not connected with reality is just uncalled for--in my book, that just crosses the line. Since F.D.R., we've had Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Obama. Carter tried to completely throw out our relations with Israel, one of our very good allies, an wanted to replace that alliance with several of our modern enemies. I'm not even going to start on Clinton. And as for Obama, he's so far put us Americans into over 1.8 trillion dollars of debt, he caused offense to Britain, our greatest ally since WWII by giving them back a bust of Winston Churchill that they'd given to Bush Sr., and he helped cause our most recent housing crisis with Harry Reid and Nancy Poloci before he even got into office!
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:15 pm
Quote: I get so sick and tired of Bush bashing. If you really want to do that, why don't you switch to a Democrat, Liberal, or Progressive Guild. I'm sure they have plenty of Bush-bashing there. Look, Bush wasn't a very good president, I think everyone admits that. However, you don't need to keep bashing him. It's idiotic and useless at this point. He's been out of office for two years now. Get over yourself. Quote: He was still better than any democrat since F.D.R I'm "bashing" because there are people like htis in the guild.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:14 am
Like what? Conservatives?
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:58 pm
NosferatuGirl Like what? Conservatives? So you're saying that Bush was really better than all of the democrats since FDR? I'm not saying those democrats were great. But I am saying Bush ******** our country up, majorly. Chaotik Joker is saying that democrats were bad because what, they messed up our relations with Israel? Bush messed up our relations with a lot of the world. Why don't you go out and see the world for a change. The word "America" is synonymous with "Murder" in some a lot of places. Did you see the movie "The Ghost Writer" by chance? In that movie the whole problem was with the Prime Minister. Everyone already assumed that America was bad. That's what our relations with the rest of the world is like. Thanks to Bush.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:06 pm
NosferatuGirl I did a cow a) He's definitely no Regan b) He kept our nation safe for 8 years? I'd say the War in Iraq made more people hate us than ever. c) Incidentally, if taxes were higher the levies wouldn't have broken during Katrina. Bush lowered taxes. d) We have a democratic Iraq? Everywhere the US goes it ******** up the country awfully. Iraq is no exception. You're not the brightest banana in the bunch. I'll tell you a few things. Higher taxes= less revenue, Reagan proved that. Yah, wanna know what else Regan did? He rose up the deficit like s**t. Wanna know why? Cause he cut taxes. I really don't care how good America was doing, someone had to pay it off. You may like tax cuts 'cause you don't have to pay as much, but saying that they're good isn't the brightest. I have an idea for you, start your own country with no taxes and see how long you last. Quote: Tax cuts encourage growth in the business sector, which encourages hiring people, which encourages spending (because people have money), which gains more revenue. If you knew Reaganomics, you'd know that. I really don't feel like pointing out where you're wrong here. Lets just say lower taxes may create more business, but they sure don't help us pay off the debt, or give us public s**t. Quote: The war in Iraq? Those people would hate us either way. Muslims are taught that they must either convert people to their faith, or kill them. I'm not saying that all Muslims are murderers, but that's what they're taught. They also believe that by blowing themselves and the "infidels" up, they become martyrs for their cause, and will be rewarded by Allah in the after-life. It's rather disturbing. Oh, and Saddam Hussein was trying to bring about the 12th Imam, or Armageddon. Because we exist, we must be destroyed according to them. It wouldn't matter if we hadn't meddled. Let's look at what the US does in the world: Goes out and ******** up other countries Tries to assassiante their leaders Does acts of terrorism Takes control of other countries economy's Makes them poor as s**t Screams about our terror problem. Yep, all their fault. Quote: About the levies, Mayor Nagin embezzled money. The military and several others told him that he needed to fix the levies, and he wouldn't. Katrina was not Bush's fault. Not denying your facts, but source? Quote: And, about the US screwing things up wherever we go, it's because of mismanagement and unwillingness to change on the part of the leaders of the people we're trying to change. So you admit the US screws things up wherever we go? That's the best I've ever gotten from a so-called conservative. Congrats. Oh yeah, wasn't Bush one of our leaders? Quote: Bush did a lot of stupid things and had quite a few bad policies, but he was a good man. Don't forget that he had a democratic congress, too. If you really think Obama doesn't have a democratic congress... Incidentally I never said Bush wasn't a good man. I just think he wasn't the brightest man.
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