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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:21 pm


I was wondering how you all felt on this.
Personally, i would let good friends female or male spend the night in the spare room, so would my husband.

I know nothing fishy would happen, and its not like i wont be there anyway so....


Men: Would you let other men spend a night (or more) in your house if you are all good friends?

Women: Would you let other women spend a night (or more) in your house if you all are good friends?

Why or why not?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:15 pm


That's a tricky subject b/c you never know the person's intentions. Also there is a dua'a for when ppl come over and stay at your home.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:18 pm


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That's a tricky subject b/c you never know the person's intentions. Also there is a dua'a for when ppl come over and stay at your home.


Ah is there? Which one is it? I don't know it >_<
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:26 am


If they were close friends...people who I generally trust.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:22 am


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That's a tricky subject b/c you never know the person's intentions. Also there is a dua'a for when ppl come over and stay at your home.


Ah is there? Which one is it? I don't know it >_<


I heard it on a lecture before, Ill find it for you insha'allah.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:01 am


bilqisnargis
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bilqisnargis
That's a tricky subject b/c you never know the person's intentions. Also there is a dua'a for when ppl come over and stay at your home.


Ah is there? Which one is it? I don't know it >_<


I heard it on a lecture before, Ill find it for you insha'allah.

i heard that too..
but women are not allowed as always

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:15 am


bilqisnargis
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bilqisnargis
That's a tricky subject b/c you never know the person's intentions. Also there is a dua'a for when ppl come over and stay at your home.


Ah is there? Which one is it? I don't know it >_<


I heard it on a lecture before, Ill find it for you insha'allah.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:40 pm


Is hospitality not a very emphasized component in Islam?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:14 pm


Violet Song jat Shariff
Is hospitality not a very emphasized component in Islam?


Of course! But...it falls into mixing of the genders.
Especially if its a married couple & a single person.
I am pretty...open minded. So is my husband, and if im letting someone in my home - i trust them. So i trust them not to try to steal my husband or disrespect him and me by making advances.

Some people are strict, and say it COULD lead to haram things happening...Like lust or infidelity. So it is avoided.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:27 pm


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Is hospitality not a very emphasized component in Islam?


Of course! But...it falls into mixing of the genders.
Especially if its a married couple & a single person.
I am pretty...open minded. So is my husband, and if im letting someone in my home - i trust them. So i trust them not to try to steal my husband or disrespect him and me by making advances.

Some people are strict, and say it COULD lead to haram things happening...Like lust or infidelity. So it is avoided.

Ahh I see. I should've remembered the taboo on mixing of the sexes in that manner sweatdrop .

What are some of the rules and guidelines for hospitality in Islam besides "Don't make moves on my spouse"?
Are guests to have the best of what's available? Or are things divided up so that everyone (guest and house-owner ) get equally pleasant accommodations?
What if someone is out-staying their welcome?
What if an enemy comes to you for shelter and care?
What if a non-Muslim guest accidentally violates any of the purity/cleanliness laws?
These are just things off the top of my head...feel free to add anything else if you can think of it!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:41 pm


Violet Song jat Shariff

Ahh I see. I should've remembered the taboo on mixing of the sexes in that manner sweatdrop .

What are some of the rules and guidelines for hospitality in Islam besides "Don't make moves on my spouse"?
Are guests to have the best of what's available? Or are things divided up so that everyone (guest and house-owner ) get equally pleasant accommodations?
What if someone is out-staying their welcome?
What if an enemy comes to you for shelter and care?
What if a non-Muslim guest accidentally violates any of the purity/cleanliness laws?
These are just things off the top of my head...feel free to add anything else if you can think of it!


1) I would say guests get equal accommodations. No sense in having guests if you're going to make them sleep in a tent in the backyard while you have a nice bedroom and guest room x3

2) If someone is out staying their welcome, well i didnt know how to treat that when i wasnt Muslim. I assume try to break it to them though you've enjoyed their company, you have family matters to attend to and you hope they can come back again :3

3) Uhh...if it was a life or death situation i would let them stay but keep them close. If not, they can find someone else to 'crash' with.

4) Hrmm...well i put myself around positive minded people. If they are non-Muslims and dont pray with us thats fine, but they also wont be doing inappropriate things. Like drinking, smoking or having sex inside my house (seriously, sex in someone elses house is plain TACKY.)

What inspired me to ask this question was my Pakistani friend. He is a male and as of now, unwed. But when my husband & I visit him, we're going to stay with his family in a spare bedroom. Since his family has company nearly every weekend, it wont be a problem with anyone. ^^

And when he (or anyone else i trust) wants to visit, my husband & I decided they can stay the night, or nights. But i wondered what other Muslims thought about it.


EDIT:
Also, i was watching this thing on youtube from a show called '30 Days' where someone experiences somethign new for a month. And this was a Non-Muslim lives with a Muslim family for the duration of that time, and he stayed in their home, but in the day he had to leave since the wife didnt work - and they felt it was inappropriate for him & her to be alone for so long.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:54 am


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If they were close friends...people who I generally trust.


One of My father's friends of 15 years came over and stayed the night once. Father would have trusted him with his life. Once, when I was twelve, he started handling my breasts in an inappropriate fashion. It hurt. Needless to say, I was confused and slightly afraid. I was really innocent then and had never been remotely aware of anything sexual, so I had no idea what he was doing. I kept quiet for two days because I didn't know if it was worth telling or not. It felt like it was very important though, so I told my mother after he left. I remember that she got really frantic and asked me if he did anything else to me and I said no. Later I had to go to the police station and tell everything, and my father removed any photographs, letters, and any other traces of that man.unfortunately, he ran away to another country before the police could find him. Still hasn't been found today. When I look back, I was really stupid, because he could have done a lot more to me within those two days, but it just goes to show that even your closest friends can't be trusted.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:34 am


Lisa Red
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If they were close friends...people who I generally trust.


One of My father's friends of 15 years came over and stayed the night once. Father would have trusted him with his life. Once, when I was twelve, he started handling my breasts in an inappropriate fashion. It hurt. Needless to say, I was confused and slightly afraid. I was really innocent then and had never been remotely aware of anything sexual, so I had no idea what he was doing. I kept quiet for two days because I didn't know if it was worth telling or not. It felt like it was very important though, so I told my mother after he left. I remember that she got really frantic and asked me if he did anything else to me and I said no. Later I had to go to the police station and tell everything, and my father removed any photographs, letters, and any other traces of that man.unfortunately, he ran away to another country before the police could find him. Still hasn't been found today. When I look back, I was really stupid, because he could have done a lot more to me within those two days, but it just goes to show that even your closest friends can't be trusted.


eek

Oh my God that is terrible.
Did your parents ever give you a talk like...'If someone ever touches you here or here, you need to tell someone'?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:23 am


My husband and I share the viewpoint of allowing others to stay over if they need a place to sleep. Unless we distrust the person for some reason. We trust our friends, however, Lisa, that is a terrible and very shocking thing to hear! It's awful what he did to you..

You can indeed never know someone's intentions, and they might not even have intentions at first, but they may act on impulses you can't predict.

When my husband and I offer someone to stay over, if it's a woman, my husband will not to be alone with her, and if it's a guy, I do the same.
We try to make them as comfortable as possible. Our guest room is actually bigger and nicer than our own bedroom xD because we prefer the sunlight in the other room in the morning.

We were supposed to have over two guys, cousins of a close friend of ours and we trust them indirectly because of that. They would've come in the evening, and leave after Fajr. I would've worn my hijab of course and just stayed in my room. (I don't exactly feel the need to socialise with two men I don't know xD) Didn't go through in the end, but yeah.

We definitely wouldn't have any smoking or drinking inside the house, and I expect them not to have sex in my house x3 if these friends are non-muslims, we will explain that to them. For the rest, they can't be expected to know about everything we do and I wouldn't feel upset if they did something by mistake.

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