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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:27 am
all across the world, farmers, fast food corporations, and prodeuct testing sites everywhere are slaughtering the runts of litters and the motheer of the pack after she has birthed her "quota" of offspring to be tested, eaten, and raised for slaughter, without any choice.
im not an extremist, by any means, but i completely believe that these people who raise animals just to slaughter them need to be punishe din a big way. just because animals cant speak like us doesnt mean they cant think or feel. and its wrong for them to be treated poorly in any aspect.
who agrees with me?
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:54 am
Every year, thousands of new cosmetics, and personal hygiene are launched in the market. Potentially, many of them had been tested in animals. Before appearing at the shelves of the supermarket, these products pass for a long and complex process of experience that millions of mutilated, burnt animals leave, poisoned and displayed to the share of gases in exceeded and unnecessary tests. The manufacturers allege that the tests guarantee the security of the products used in normal circumstances or case of some accident, as the ingestion of the same ones. I don’t agree with animal testing either, especially when it’s possible to do tests on chicken unfertilized eggs or lab grown tissue.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:10 am
Kyuubi Grave all across the world, farmers, fast food corporations, and prodeuct testing sites everywhere are slaughtering the runts of litters and the motheer of the pack after she has birthed her "quota" of offspring to be tested, eaten, and raised for slaughter, without any choice. im not an extremist, by any means, but i completely believe that these people who raise animals just to slaughter them need to be punishe din a big way. just because animals cant speak like us doesnt mean they cant think or feel. and its wrong for them to be treated poorly in any aspect. who agrees with me? My grandparents raised beef cattle. Beef cattle were raised for the exact reason that, someday, they would become beef. They were NOT treated poorly by any strech of the imagination. Just because they are going to be eaten someday does not mean they are always handled by mean, ruthless people. In fact, many of the breeds of livestock we have today were developed for going on dinner plates. Now, slaughterhouses make me sick, but it's part of an omnivore's life. I don't see anyone protesting against tigers for eating deer.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:21 am
i raise animals that will be food. i breed my own bugs for my lizards and frogs and soon ill be breeding rats for snake food. and if i ever get the land i plan on raising my own beef do i deserve to be punished? remember, not all animals that are raised as food are treated badly. when i start breeding rats for snake food i plan on treating them as nicly as i treat my pet rats
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:45 am
well, i can see your point here. but we do need food to live. but we should act more like the Native Americans. They would say to the gods "Please forgive me for killing this creature, but i need the fur for warmth and the meat to eat and live." and it is said, that if the gods forgave them, then they would be able to kill the animal, as long as they used every part of the animal. And they did that, so that nothing would go to waste. now a days, we selfishly take what we want, and then throw whatever is left away. the natives used the bladder for carrying water, some tribes used the brain for food. its sad, but at least they used every part, and asked for forgiveness.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:48 am
Grandmaster Kat Every year, thousands of new cosmetics, and personal hygiene are launched in the market. Potentially, many of them had been tested in animals. Before appearing at the shelves of the supermarket, these products pass for a long and complex process of experience that millions of mutilated, burnt animals leave, poisoned and displayed to the share of gases in exceeded and unnecessary tests. The manufacturers allege that the tests guarantee the security of the products used in normal circumstances or case of some accident, as the ingestion of the same ones. I don’t agree with animal testing either, especially when it’s possible to do tests on chicken unfertilized eggs or lab grown tissue. yes, i dont like the idea either. and some people just dont understand that, animals could have a different reaction to things then us. Dogs for example. every dog is allergic to chocolate because their enzymes cant break it down like ours can. theres a difference. and some scientists just dont think of that first.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:56 am
a member of my not that close family used to be a farmer, and he only treated the animals he liked nicely, which was like 2 animals out of 20+ so thats why i brought the farmers up. i know not all of them are bad, but there are some that do treat their animals badly. i understand the statement about breeding for food, and respect that you treat the animals with respect until their day comes
and i also agree that scientists should think of the animals before just going in and throwing all the tests in the world at them just so humans can get a new scent of shampoo
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:14 pm
I think killing animals in anyway is wrong. I dont think we need to skin animals for there fur or kill them for food..But thats just me and how i am. I know people like to eat me and im not going to tell you that its wrong or push what i believe on anyone. I dont eat meat its a fact, I refuse to wear fur and thats another fact. I know what they do to these poor animals and i hate them for it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:22 pm
Shanna66 i raise animals that will be food. i breed my own bugs for my lizards and frogs and soon ill be breeding rats for snake food. and if i ever get the land i plan on raising my own beef do i deserve to be punished? remember, not all animals that are raised as food are treated badly. when i start breeding rats for snake food i plan on treating them as nicly as i treat my pet rats There is a huge difference between (respectfully) completing a food chain for animals razed in captivity (which by the way it’s an interesting choice of pets) and intensive farming of poultry (chickens and turkeys) with almost no space to move, severe lack of food and lights on 24 hours a day. Many people have different interpretations of what is considered "animal abuse" (and that is perfectly understandable). It is important that you look at the entire situation to determine if an animal is being abused or neglected, and to ascertain whether the abuse in intentional and/or malicious. There may be situations where you feel an animal is being neglected because they are not being treated the way you yourself would treat a pet.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:31 pm
Grandmaster Kat Shanna66 i raise animals that will be food. i breed my own bugs for my lizards and frogs and soon ill be breeding rats for snake food. and if i ever get the land i plan on raising my own beef do i deserve to be punished? remember, not all animals that are raised as food are treated badly. when i start breeding rats for snake food i plan on treating them as nicly as i treat my pet rats There is a huge difference between (respectfully) completing a food chain for animals razed in captivity (which by the way it’s an interesting choice of pets) and intensive farming of poultry (chickens and turkeys) with almost no space to move, severe lack of food and lights on 24 hours a day. Many people have different interpretations of what is considered "animal abuse" (and that is perfectly understandable). It is important that you look at the entire situation to determine if an animal is being abused or neglected, and to ascertain whether the abuse in intentional and/or malicious. There may be situations where you feel an animal is being neglected because they are not being treated the way you yourself would treat a pet. Sorry I just have to pick you up on the 'severe lack of food point'..They're generally being farmed for meat, so a lack of food would be self-defeating. I am in no way a supporter of factory farms, but I believe that if you're going to knock something, at least get your facts right
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:48 pm
TomV Sorry I just have to pick you up on the 'severe lack of food point'..They're generally being farmed for meat, so a lack of food would be self-defeating. I am in no way a supporter of factory farms, but I believe that if you're going to knock something, at least get your facts right Yes, my facts are right, I don't know if you noticed but this meat farms prefer quantity instead of quality just take a look at the bones, they’re fragile and the size of poultry is just to small. And don’t dare to deny that this factory meat is less nutritious; that is the result of a severe lack of food. There is a big difference between food and hormones.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:22 pm
Kats right, i mean for factory farmers, if they want bigger meat (quantity) theyll keep the food levels the same, but increase the level of hormones injected into theanimals by a crazy huge amount. and even with that, the quality is still the same,poor level, theres just more of it. doesnt make it any more right.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:20 pm
i dont believe in using horomones to make a feeder animal bigger, not even for my insects, i raise my feeders all natural. forget abuse of the feeder animal, all the horomones they are forced to consume go into your body and your pet's bodies too and that just isnt healthy.
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:41 pm
why don't we all just eat tofu!?!?
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:53 pm
the real bluestorm why don't we all just eat tofu!?!? because we need nutrition, plus think of all the cats and dogs you buy food for, what do you think that food is made of? and i dont know about you but i would never put my morals over my pet's health
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