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FrostieSlush

PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:03 pm


Well since poly is big on ethical behavior I thought it would be a good idea to make a post on the general rules of conduct and etiquette in poly relations! We can share and share alike. I prefer to think of these as suggested guidelines for the most part although a few big no-nos (like no lying to your partners about other partners) certainly exist. I'm open to debate and disagreement too.


1. Safe sex! Testing yourself and your partners and/or using protection is not only ethical it's good etiquette and increases your chances of a long and happy sex life.
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:31 pm


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TALK TO YOUR PARTNER/S! If you're uncomfortable with ANYTHING, whether it be that new guy your partner was thinking about dating or that chick your partner was thinking about adding to your relationship, SAY IT!

It may be obvious at first glace, but certain people (like me) don't always recognize that you need to say what's on your mind. I believe that with true, open (lolpun, I mean being open about how you feel) relationships, you shouldn't have to not say anything. My therapist once told me "Thinking that you're so close to your partner that s/he knows what you're thinking is bullshit," and it applies to everything.

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FrostieSlush

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:03 am


#3, don't gossip between partners about other partners. Gossip undermines all types of social groups.
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:05 am


To me, Ethics are nothing if not based around applicable Morality. Kind of goes without saying that there are different philosophical views in Poly relationships than Mono ones... but there's more to this than honoring that general difference.

I think that Morality between people who realize the significance of others in their relationships have bonds on levels which could be described as being deeper for lack of fear based preoccupations. Trusts and dependencies are all the stronger for being closer to the significance of the person in question... there seems to me to be more potential for value of the essence of a connection versus the trappings of a connection.

It's not to say that monogamous relationships aren't just as capable of being important and deep... just that the RULES aren't.

Bah. It's 4 am here... I'm probably making even less sense than I do to Gaia most of the time lol

Most of what I'm trying to get across here I guess I could summarize just by writing on how more essential commitments to people rather than commitments to artificial situations are actually harder to break and more painful and possibly more consequential when they are broken.

I guess one might be able to say from that then that Poly Ethics should be something like "be true of purpose, and clear in communicating status." The purpose varying in every relationship according to the inividuals involved, but not varying according to the being true to that.

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Gah. I'll edit this later and see what I can salvage gonk

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:14 am


FrostieSlush
#3, don't gossip between partners about other partners. Gossip undermines all types of social groups.


That's a good one. From what I've heard and read that's something particularly important in these kinds of things...

People don't realize how separate confidences creates division like that. In the case of Poly relationships communicating one way with some people and another with others .... it's essentially promoting total open communication with one hand and defeating its purpose with the other at the same time.

You see the same things in pretty much all open-circle sorts of situations and societies... including covens and spiritual unions and such.

I guess you could include many different kinds of communication in that, gossip or not... to do something other than communicate totally and inclusively with everyone is essentially maintaining walls and that's essentially out of fear or other sorts of needs for control.

Communication though, it's a skill as much as a virtue... it can be hard to know how to judge somebody for not communicating as openly as they could or perhaps should.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:50 pm


It's my belief that the biggest stumbling blocks are 1. People not being honest with themselves and/or their partner about what they genuinely need and 2. double standards. Honest negotiation and following whatever rules you agree on are key. Do not go ballistic on me for following the same rules you are following because it turns out you are very comfortable with it being entirely open on your end, but not with me picking my own partners. homey don't play that. I'm pretty relaxed about what goes on as long as it's equal and there is safe sex. I will happily renegotiate as needed, but the rules better be equal and I don't appreciate dishonesty.


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Adrayis

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:21 am


Maarilat
To me, Ethics are nothing if not based around applicable Morality. Kind of goes without saying that there are different philosophical views in Poly relationships than Mono ones... but there's more to this than honoring that general difference.

I think that Morality between people who realize the significance of others in their relationships have bonds on levels which could be described as being deeper for lack of fear based preoccupations.

*snip*



Ethics are your own personal code of 'right and wrong' that you live by. Morals are the code of 'right and wrong' that OTHERS TELL YOU to live by. There is a difference. To me, morals make no sense. But, I'm an odd duck. smile

As for poly ethics, the main ones have really been stated already, though, I would add 1 thing:

Stop lying to yourself. Over the years I've learned that the biggest roadblock to successful poly relationships is people lying to themselves, and by extension, lying to their partners. A lot of the time without meaning any malice at all.

People have stopped doing the big, deep, soul-searching thinking before doing something important, or, they don't go deep enough. If even a whisper of you is not ok with it, don't say you are, and ignore that whisper. Let that whisper turn in to a solid voice, and raise your concerns. At the VERY least, if you aren't sure what that whisper is even saying yet, tell your partner(s) that there's something about whatever is going on that's not quite settled for you and you need some time to figure out what it is, put your finger on it. And ask them to not consider you 100% ok with it until you've got back to them.

Then soul search, REALLY soul search, find out what's wrong, and give THAT voice.

When people stop lying to themselves, and then to others, it works out a lot better. smile And for goodness sake, think before you speak!! mrgreen

If you're ok with your partner going out for the night with someone new, don't say "Do what you feel you need to, but remember what's important." That's passive-agressive, and tells them that you really aren't ok with it. If you aren't ok with it, then say "I'm not ok with it, but, I've put some thought in to it and here's what we can do to make it better...." and give suggestions.

If you really are ok with it, then tell them "Sure, go have fun, I'll be here when you get back honey."
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