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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:28 am
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I don’t care if the music industry or films industry or any industry thinks I’m stealing from them because I can’t see how what I’m doing is so wrong.
Thinking about it, most of the illegal content I have downloaded is stuff I would have never have spent money on in the first place. Saying that, I’ve never really been a big downloader of legal or illegal digital content, apart from content on PSN and XBL. So things like music, films, TV programmes, computer programs and other such stuff I have mostly bought legally and normally a hard copy, with no downloads involved. The last time I download anything like that was over a year ago.
The way I see it is if I went into a shop and stole a CD, I’m taking a CD, which that shop has already bought, so they will not make money selling it on. But me downloading a song that I had no intention of buying in the first place, how does that stop anyone who was going to buy it from that shop. I did ICT at college but I needed Microsoft office, which I didn’t realize until after I started the course, I thought any generic office program would be fine. I couldn’t afford the £100+ Microsoft wanted for it, so I go it illegally. Apart from the work I did on the course, I never use Microsoft office. It would have been a waste of my money to buy it.
Basically I want to rant. Thanks for reading.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:02 am
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The Full English I don’t care if the music industry or films industry or any industry thinks I’m stealing from them because I can’t see how what I’m doing is so wrong. Thinking about it, most of the illegal content I have downloaded is stuff I would have never have spent money on in the first place. Saying that, I’ve never really been a big downloader of legal or illegal digital content, apart from content on PSN and XBL. So things like music, films, TV programmes, computer programs and other such stuff I have mostly bought legally and normally a hard copy, with no downloads involved. The last time I download anything like that was over a year ago. The way I see it is if I went into a shop and stole a CD, I’m taking a CD, which that shop has already bought, so they will not make money selling it on. But me downloading a song that I had no intention of buying in the first place, how does that stop anyone who was going to buy it from that shop. I did ICT at college but I needed Microsoft office, which I didn’t realize until after I started the course, I thought any generic office program would be fine. I couldn’t afford the £100+ Microsoft wanted for it, so I go it illegally. Apart from the work I did on the course, I never use Microsoft office. It would have been a waste of my money to buy it. Basically I want to rant. Thanks for reading.
Downlaoding without paying is theft. Copyright laws are pretty clear to me. You have no right to distribute the works of others without permission in the form of license. By downloaing from illegal distributors you are indeed breaking the law.
Quote: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law which implements two 1996 WIPO treaties. It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services that are used to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works (commonly known as DRM) and criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. It also heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended title 17 of the U.S. Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of Online Providers from copyright infringement by their users.
see more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
Related: NET act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NET_Act
Don't take it personal, but these are the facts.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:25 pm
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Tillisnut The Full English I don’t care if the music industry or films industry or any industry thinks I’m stealing from them because I can’t see how what I’m doing is so wrong. Thinking about it, most of the illegal content I have downloaded is stuff I would have never have spent money on in the first place. Saying that, I’ve never really been a big downloader of legal or illegal digital content, apart from content on PSN and XBL. So things like music, films, TV programmes, computer programs and other such stuff I have mostly bought legally and normally a hard copy, with no downloads involved. The last time I download anything like that was over a year ago. The way I see it is if I went into a shop and stole a CD, I’m taking a CD, which that shop has already bought, so they will not make money selling it on. But me downloading a song that I had no intention of buying in the first place, how does that stop anyone who was going to buy it from that shop. I did ICT at college but I needed Microsoft office, which I didn’t realize until after I started the course, I thought any generic office program would be fine. I couldn’t afford the £100+ Microsoft wanted for it, so I go it illegally. Apart from the work I did on the course, I never use Microsoft office. It would have been a waste of my money to buy it. Basically I want to rant. Thanks for reading. Downlaoding without paying is theft. Copyright laws are pretty clear to me. You have no right to distribute the works of others without permission in the form of license. By downloaing from illegal distributors you are indeed breaking the law. Quote: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law which implements two 1996 WIPO treaties. It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services that are used to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works (commonly known as DRM) and criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. It also heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended title 17 of the U.S. Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of Online Providers from copyright infringement by their users. see more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_ActRelated: NET act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NET_ActDon't take it personal, but these are the facts.
I'm not making anyone lose money or making money for myself, so i see nothing wrong with what i do
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:32 pm
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My opinion on this is as such:
Songs used to play for free on the radio. And if you're an old school geek like me you have taped songs off of the radio before, and not had to listen to the commercials. TIVO and such for television are the same, you skip the commercials. Commercials, are the funding source for radio and tv-- and in theory they paid their share of production costs so you can find our how awesome Coca Cola tastes or how your life is revolutionized by Fixadent.
So why is downloading so much a bigger deal than taping?
Now, I can see your point (Tillisnut) in the respects that people have entire media libraries of movies they bummed online and such.
However, I am notoriously someone who doesn't like maybe more than one or two songs from an artist. To me downloading music programs are great. I can find out if other songs by an artist are as appealing as the one I heard. I would have never purchased cds by Hoobastank, Evanescence, Poets of the Fall, etc if I hadn't been for limewire and kazaa. By having those programs for me I was introduced to a better pallet of their music, and purchased products.
Also, it is not fair to be unable to listen to your favorite songs or watch your favorite shows because they are not offered in your country. Poets of the fall, for example, are a band you have to import their cds (thus it took a few downloads to convince me I wanted to pay the ungodly shipping fees). It's not a matter of not buying it, but for many between the countries products, it's about staying current. Waiting doesn't seem like a big deal until your friend overseas blabs who got killed off on LOST. But for many people they'll still purchase the episode down the road. Also, I have an issue having American copy right laws shoved down my throat when I want to download music from Korea or Spain.
I understand the rights of artists, and I applaud that. However, the pirates of music and media were really quite innovative in reshaping how we buy music. Many legitimate pay-per-song websites were molded by the illegal ones. I also think this harms big name companies more than it harms the little guys. Artists like Matt Caplan and other "Small timers" can get their music out there to a larger audience. They may not make money initially on these downloads, but it creates a fan base which is a solid investment in future records.
Finally, artists have other lucrative ways besides the selling of cds. Concerts will always be near and dear to the heart- and streaming a concert on You Tube won't suffice.
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