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It's so hard being smarter than my dad.

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Pelvic Sorcery

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:54 am


It sounds cocky. Well, it it. But it's true. While my dad has wasted his life partying, loving, and hating; I've been using my life to learn. And party. But mostly learn. His outlook on the world is so negative and dogmatic. Every time I try to explain to him why, for health reasons, he should try and change his way of thinking; he leaves the room. He's way to submissive and problem avoidant.
Off the top of my hypochondriac head, I could tie him to a dozen different personality disorders that he has given himself by refusing to let reality even skim the surface of his perception of the world.
Every time he sees somebody in the apartments across the street from his house start shouting, he expects them to start shooting at each other. I know firsthand that every ******** over there is just a friendly peaceful pothead. I've smoked with plenty of 'em. Potheads don't shoot each other. And s**t... everyone fights.
He's also way too emotional. He thinks with his heart. He believes that how he feels is how he feels and that he has no control over it. I've tried explaining to him how, when identifying the cause of unhappiness, you can overcome it; but he just gets defensive and says cliche bullshit like "what, so I'm not allowed to have my own feelings?" When I tell him how unimportant the things that upset him are and why, he'll say something along the lines of "yeah, well it's important to me." It's like I'm trying in vain to undo a lifetime of emotionally irrational brainwashing.
But the worst part of it all is how he refuses to learn about things that scare him. I tried to convince him to read The Satanic Bible, but he made it to the fourth line of the book, "Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!," and refused to read any further. He isn't even religious. There is nothing wrong with learning about how other people think. I don't read about Norse Mythology believing that the first men were licked from ice by a giant magical cow.
Basically, every time I see him I'm forced to watch him slowly kill himself with negative, irrational, hateful thoughts.

Feels nice to rant. I haven't done it in a while. Almost therapeutic.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:16 am


I think it's kind of normal to be disappointed in your parents. Either that, or I'm in just as deep a shithole as you are. It's probably the latter.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:56 am


xxx Speaking on general terms, as of recent years, offspring seldom settle in significant agreement with their acting parental figures, resultant of factors that include a chronological gap as well as an innate superiority complex that may simply be fueled by the former; there are also multitudinous traits that have emerged in modern society that conflict with, in, and of both others and themselves. To be as broad as can be applicable, difference in functional interaction and tolerance levels are the general issue, as I see it. Lack of equilibrium creates imbalance, and when an individual is unwilling to learn with necessary dedication, they become something that seems almost a temporal anomaly - an entity that traverses time as any might, but remains unchanged, nonetheless.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:06 am


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I understand where you're coming from, but I'm afraid that isn't the case in this situation. At first, I thought our disagreements were typical father-son stand-offs. But I've been looking into this for a long time. It's really the only thing in my life that needs fixed. The way I see it; if I can find happiness in life and he can't, then I need to help him. I have to know somethings that he doesn't. The problem arises when he refuses to be helped.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:12 am


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xxx Perhaps I could attempt to be of some assistance, if anything; I can at least vouch personal experience with internal family difficulty. How, exactly, would you describe your general, casual relationship with him? Making a tad ricochet off of your previous statement, I would also be interested to know, generally, in what manner it is that he refuses your help and, if applicable, if he does the same to others.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:22 am


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Normally, we treat each other as friends. He interferes in my life as little as possible. But I can't help but be bothered when I overhear him complaining and getting worked up over trivial things; so trivial, in fact, that I can't really name one right off the top of my head, aside from the few in the original post. I guess one thing is his mistrust of others. At one point, I asked him why he never goes out to see his friends, and he told me it was because "people can't be trusted." When he does get upset, he makes never says directly what the problem is, exhibits behavior to make a point that he's not satisfied, and completely refuses to admit there is a problem or help discuss how said problem could be solved. He speaks in riddles. To the point where, often times, I confuse him just doing things for him trying to prove a point. I can no longer decipher his questions from his accusations.
Long story short, I like to discuss problems, and he likes to share them without saying what they are or how they can be solved. I'm a conversationalist, and he's an isolationist prone to temper-tantrums.

Christ. Sorry for the long post.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:30 am


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xxx I don't mind long posts; feel free to say as much as you find necessary, be it one or one hundred sentences. I also apologise for the late response; I was called away for momentary work.
xxx Anyhow, the situation is interesting, I find, on the basis that he acts exceptionally similarly to a way that I, personally, have in the past. This, though, creates another question: have you, previously, attempted conversation with, not necessarily your father, but individuals that present themselves in a manner that could be considered alike?
xxx I may have, actually, come to a conclusion about the matter, though there are always questions from my standpoint.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:45 am


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I'monna be honest; I don't think I've ever met anyone like my father. Baha. He has a... Unique way of behaving. Almost like he's acting. Not surprising, seeing as he spent a great deal of his early adulthood acting in college play productions. Lead role kinda guy. But that was a lifetime ago.
You know, come to think of it, he reminds me of some of the people who would act in the local community plays. Though, I never really got to know many of them. I just built the set and pulled flies and whatnot.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:59 am


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xxx Now comes for guesses and troubleshooting as far as I might be capable of providing in this considerably awkward online situation. Taking into account that you have some knowledge regarding the social sciences, have you though it ever possible that he wants answers, but perhaps cannot either find them or wishes to do so himself?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:06 pm


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Hm. Wishes to find things on his own. I haven't considered that aspect.
If that's the case, maybe it would do well to strengthen my abilities in covert hypnosis. Maybe the best course of action would be to make my ideas his.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:17 pm


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xxx I can only deduct so much with the given information, though I feel that that is the most probable cause and may be worth investigating.
xxx Personally, I would recommend that, alongside your study of hypnosis, you look into deduction and logic. I've acquired the fair amount of my knowledge in that field from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes series, as well as more practical field experimentation that allows information to be put to effective practise.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:22 pm


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I've been meaning to start on Sherlock Holmes, but I'm already working on about fifteen books. That's what happens when a kid with severe A.D.D. get's an e-book and basic knowledge of piracy. Baha. It could easily be another month before I'm ready to start on another book series. But I'll get it downloading now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:27 pm


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xxx Well, it's certainly worth the read and sparks interesting concepts for those that are fascinated by the cognitive sciences.
xxx In any case, much luck to you for your situation.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:30 pm


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I wasn't aware that Sherlock Holmes went especially in-depth with cognitive science. I'll have to check that out sooner, rather than later.
The advice has been much appreciated; thanks, man.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:38 pm


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xxx Although it doesn't speak exceptionally in depth with description [to do so at the time (or even now) may be considerably challenging], it proposes concepts and makes definitive points that can, have, and I personally believe should, be adapted and applied to reality. In actuality, there is a study of logic known as "Holmesian Deduction" that bases its focus on Doyle's functional depiction of Sherlock Holmes. The most exceptional detail that I appreciate is that upon the end of each "story", the reader will often be provided a near full explanation of Holmes's methodology, and although Doyle is extremely precise regarding detail, it is interesting to make conclusions while reading and to discover their accuracy through the eyes of a genius that was, though fictional, an earnest founder of forensic science and an influence to many of today's thinkers.
xxx Sure; I'm glad to be of whatever assistance that I might be capable of amounting to.
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