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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:51 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:30 am
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:31 am
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:59 am
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Personally, I don't believe it would include excluding them from our life in general. We are to guard our hearts and go into these situations prepared. It's great to witness to them, but witnessing is more than just words - it's actions as well. Sometimes words won't convince a person because their heart has been hardened. Sometimes it takes actions such as kindness, being forgiving, etc. to witness to them. So talking about things involving God like scripture, His word, etc. and talking about other general things I both see no issue with.
I don't see anything wrong with accepting a friend request from an unbeliever because you may be one they can ask questions, or perhaps in your status or signature you are witnessing to them in that manner. This is highly debatable in the church and I know there are many who will disagree with me who say that we shouldn't be friends with unbelievers, or shouldn't be friends with Christians who say they are "Christian", but committ sin when they want because they want to and don't truly care.
We aren't 100% sure what type of partnership he was meaning here so we aren't all that sure whether it was marriage, friendship, a relationship between a Christian and a struggling Christian, etc. Although, it's mostly believed that the assocation between believers and unbelievers is the main subject matter here.
When we associate with those who are not believers, I do believe we should take caution and be careful to put on God's armor in order to not fall for any temptation that may come our way due to the other person. If a person engages in a sinful behavior, we shouldn't join in that sinful behavior with them just because we're "friends" or something of that sort. Or if they encourage us to pursue temptation that we should stay away because they are trying to make us fall.
We must also remember that Paul was a fan of rhetorical questions that generally gave a statement and then the answer would be, "No way!" but it would be to draw people in to tell them what was considered wrong, and what they are to do instead. He wrote generally in a certain type of format, which was either an A, B, A, B format or a A1, B1, C1, A2, B2, C2 (he would sometimes address the issue, explain a bit, and then get back to the issue). This is important when reading what Paul writes when trying to get the most out of what Paul means.
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:47 am
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Aquatic_blue Personally, I don't believe it would include excluding them from our life in general. We are to guard our hearts and go into these situations prepared. It's great to witness to them, but witnessing is more than just words - it's actions as well. Sometimes words won't convince a person because their heart has been hardened. Sometimes it takes actions such as kindness, being forgiving, etc. to witness to them. So talking about things involving God like scripture, His word, etc. and talking about other general things I both see no issue with. I don't see anything wrong with accepting a friend request from an unbeliever because you may be one they can ask questions, or perhaps in your status or signature you are witnessing to them in that manner. This is highly debatable in the church and I know there are many who will disagree with me who say that we shouldn't be friends with unbelievers, or shouldn't be friends with Christians who say they are "Christian", but committ sin when they want because they want to and don't truly care. We aren't 100% sure what type of partnership he was meaning here so we aren't all that sure whether it was marriage, friendship, a relationship between a Christian and a struggling Christian, etc. Although, it's mostly believed that the assocation between believers and unbelievers is the main subject matter here. When we associate with those who are not believers, I do believe we should take caution and be careful to put on God's armor in order to not fall for any temptation that may come our way due to the other person. If a person engages in a sinful behavior, we shouldn't join in that sinful behavior with them just because we're "friends" or something of that sort. Or if they encourage us to pursue temptation that we should stay away because they are trying to make us fall. We must also remember that Paul was a fan of rhetorical questions that generally gave a statement and then the answer would be, "No way!" but it would be to draw people in to tell them what was considered wrong, and what they are to do instead. He wrote generally in a certain type of format, which was either an A, B, A, B format or a A1, B1, C1, A2, B2, C2 (he would sometimes address the issue, explain a bit, and then get back to the issue). This is important when reading what Paul writes when trying to get the most out of what Paul means.
Ah, I see. ^^ And you're right -- we should never compromise with our friends if they do a sinful action. I think I will take some time to meditate on this. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:12 am
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:27 pm
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Jiggit Aquatic_blue Personally, I don't believe it would include excluding them from our life in general. We are to guard our hearts and go into these situations prepared. It's great to witness to them, but witnessing is more than just words - it's actions as well. Sometimes words won't convince a person because their heart has been hardened. Sometimes it takes actions such as kindness, being forgiving, etc. to witness to them. So talking about things involving God like scripture, His word, etc. and talking about other general things I both see no issue with. I don't see anything wrong with accepting a friend request from an unbeliever because you may be one they can ask questions, or perhaps in your status or signature you are witnessing to them in that manner. This is highly debatable in the church and I know there are many who will disagree with me who say that we shouldn't be friends with unbelievers, or shouldn't be friends with Christians who say they are "Christian", but committ sin when they want because they want to and don't truly care. We aren't 100% sure what type of partnership he was meaning here so we aren't all that sure whether it was marriage, friendship, a relationship between a Christian and a struggling Christian, etc. Although, it's mostly believed that the assocation between believers and unbelievers is the main subject matter here. When we associate with those who are not believers, I do believe we should take caution and be careful to put on God's armor in order to not fall for any temptation that may come our way due to the other person. If a person engages in a sinful behavior, we shouldn't join in that sinful behavior with them just because we're "friends" or something of that sort. Or if they encourage us to pursue temptation that we should stay away because they are trying to make us fall. We must also remember that Paul was a fan of rhetorical questions that generally gave a statement and then the answer would be, "No way!" but it would be to draw people in to tell them what was considered wrong, and what they are to do instead. He wrote generally in a certain type of format, which was either an A, B, A, B format or a A1, B1, C1, A2, B2, C2 (he would sometimes address the issue, explain a bit, and then get back to the issue). This is important when reading what Paul writes when trying to get the most out of what Paul means. Ah, I see. ^^ And you're right -- we should never compromise with our friends if they do a sinful action. I think I will take some time to meditate on this. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
You're welcome 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:45 pm
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Oddly enough, I've never heard of yoking...
I read the passages linked in the second post, and I still have no idea what "yoking" is.
I'd like to assume that it's like a yoke, like something you steer horses with, or a control mechanism for steering...
So I'm thinking the passage says "don't let let unbelievers steer you". In other words, you have to be strong and absolute in your faith and love of Jesus, so that when other people may try (either intentionally or accidentally) to steer you away from God, you won't budge.
As for having non-believer friends, I think it's better to have non-believer friends. You get to learn more about the world that way. You don't end up trapped in some walled-off Christian bubble of safety and privilege that can end up hurting other people that you try to help later on. Being detached from the world and not being able to deal with the very real problems that other human beings have is a big problem that I observe a lot of Christians having.
They only talk to people in their church, or other Christians, or their Christian friends at their Christian school, so when other non-believers come along, they are at a complete loss at how to interact with them because they've not had the experience required to communicate effectively.
And when you don't know how to interact with people other than Christians, you will fail at communicating the Gospel and the good news of Jesus to them. It's as simple as that. You can tell them all the truth about God, but they will not listen simply because they will see you as detached from the rest of the world, and "not in touch with reality".
My pastor always said, "Be IN the world, but not OF it."
So do not be sheltered. Be absolutely firm in your beliefs, but socialize with non-Christians as much as Christians. Don't let people steer you away. Even if they try, simply don't let them. Just be friends with people!
If you realize you're being yoked or steered away somehow, just stop and think and remember God. If for some reason, something crazy happens that might cause you to want to break off your friendship because you feel it will hurt your relationship with God (such as someone forcing or coercing you to do or say something you don't want to do!), then break off the friendship.
But for now, go out and enjoy friendship with people. :]
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