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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:12 pm
Okay, so. Not many of you know me o_____o;
Just call me James, or Jam for short : )
Anywho,
I go to an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church all the way up in.. Canada! (ikr :3 )
And something happened to me That made me bring up this question:
"Is (watching/reading) anime a sin?"

I didn't think so, so for the past three years, I've been watching Naruto and reading the manga online, and only that really (watched all those anime shows when I was a kid, like yu gi oh, etc).
And I told someone in my church that, well hey! I read anime, specifically Naruto.
They literally looked disgusted,
and I didn't get why. I mean, I don't worship it or anything (unlike one guy who said I had chakra radiating from me, was creepy xD) but I just watch it, and I enjoy it, and I know it's just fiction and everything o__o;

And then they called it evil, and stupid, and basically said that, well hey,. what I was doing was wrong. Is it really, so terribly wrong? To watch anime(not just naruto)? I'm not making it an idol, either/ nor am i obsessed with it. I just watch it every Thursday o__o; Sometimes I even miss Thursdays . gonk  
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:22 am
I don't think the problem some people have with anime isn't the idol part, but more like the content. Some people have perverted anime by their fan art and an make an innocent anime appear extremely sexual and some people see this fan art by accident on the web or in a gif and associate all anime with that.

Also, the techniques that are used in Naruto are a type of spiritual technique, but this isn't Christianity and probably not necessarily demonic, either, but it is usually enough to get people to say that it's "sinful" and "wrong". The techniques aren't honoring God in anything. I am not a Naruto fan so please forgive me if I get any of this wrong. My husband enjoyed Naruto before it became popular and told me how awesome it was watching it before it got to be a huge hit and I only hear certain things from him about the series since I haven't watched it.

I love anime and mange because there's so many different styles whether it's a samurai type anime or a calm, whimsical type of anime or even one of those humorous romance type anime's. There are so many different styles according to script, but the styles also go for the drawings. It's easy to tell Naruto characters from Bleach characters. The styles vary a lot. Even though both anime's are considered a spiritual technique type, they have their own quirks.

I believe anime is okay if we don't watch the ultimately perverted ones. I mean, some anime's and manga's are so awesome! I used to take suggestions from people on the internet and one time someone told me to watch this "hilarious" anime and I love funny anime's so I tried watching it and it was so perverted and sick. I figured in the first episode, "Okay, that was only one perverted joke - perhaps it's over." but it never stopped and it got way too sexual so that one was a no-no on my list.

I'm sure Naruto as well as other anime's and manga's are fine to watch. Some even have a valuable point to the whole story, or are just awesome when you want to de-stress after a long day.

If one ever comes across an anime or manga that may cause them to fall then it's best not to watch it/read it. If the content is questionable and somewhere inside you says, "Nah, this isn't a good thing to watch or read." Then move onto something else.

I remember one time, I think it was my Mom gave me this disgusted look after she figured out I was watching the anime Bartender. The anime was a lot different from the manga, but it was a true bar in there. Not one where there's partying, dirty dancing, and other immoral activities. These people find this bar, walk into it, and tell the Bartender their problem and he gives them the perfect drink according to the way they talk, what they say they've been going through, the way they act, etc. So he profiles them and gives them a drink to match, basically. These people are sharing their sorrows and worries with a bartender that listens to them and tries to help them. I believe the bartender was also one that was against drunkenness if I remember right and believed in enjoying the flavor of a drink within moderation and responsibility. I enjoyed the fact that the bartender helped others with their problems and listened to them and had a patient personality and didn't act in rage at anybody.

Action and intent is also important here. Ask yourself, "Why am I watching Naruto?" and if your answer is something like, "I am watching Naruto because I want to learn all their techniques and be just like them!" or, "Because I just HAVE to watch it all the time! I HAVE to! Nothing else matters!" Then it may be time to let it go and move on. If your answer is more like, "Because it's enjoyable and has both humor and action scenes. I also admire the good qualities in some of the characters rather than the bad. It's a good way to let go of stress by watching what I enjoy." then you should be fine.

I used to hate anime a long time ago. I used to stay, "It's stupid and I hate it." and what I was truly annoyed at was the fact that it was popular and the people who liked anime were so goofy and happy all the time at school because they always had an anime or manga to joke about or characters to draw and I was jealous. When one of my friends said she found a great anime, I didn't want to watch it and gave in. She didn't like anime, either, so I figured, "Well, it must be an exception to all the others." I gave in a little, but not a lot. Then a while later she said, "I found another AWESOME anime!" and I watched it and completely caved xd I was just too stubborn to see what all the craze was about. Turned out - I loved anime.

The most important thing to remember is not to let anime/manga be a distraction from God. If your anime and manga is not a distraction and is not leading you further away from God then it is okay. If we find that we watch more anime and read more manga than we study God's word then that should be a red flag that we should watch and read less anime and manga and focus more on God. 3nodding  

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:53 pm
As with a lot of entertainment mediums, there's a lot of diversity when it comes to anime and manga. I think it would be... impractical... to judge them all the same way, as if there were no differences.

Specifically speaking, Naruto is one example of a major anime type, Shounen (compare Bleach, One Piece, YuYu Hakusho, Flame of Recca, and various others, contrast Spice and Wolf, Uta Kata, Lucky Star, and various others). This type of series tends to exemplify the growth and development of the main character, usually from a joke into somebody very competent and capable. Along the way, there tend to be a lot of morals like the Power of Friendship (TM) and whatnot, and generally showing the triumph of good over evil, or at least of morally questionable over morally wrong. Depends on the series, really. Greater Evil = Greater Victory for Good.

More importantly, though? As you mentioned, it's fiction. It's a made-up story.

...

Well, let me put it another way. Everything can be educational if you really want it to be. I think I would be bored to tears by something that had no sin (in any form) in it, because chances are there'd be no conflict, no story to tell, no nothin'. Even if a character in a particular show behaves in a particular way, is there anything you can learn from it? Can you say that they're wrong, why they're wrong, and perhaps recognize what might have motivated a character to do the wrong thing? Make a study out of it and see what conclusions you can come up to.

On the whole, though, I don't think that watching anime is sinful. o.O I've never read the Lord saying "Thou shalt not enjoy and benefit from the telling of stories".  
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:28 am
There's a lot of differing opinions on this topic. See, it can be looked at in two different lights. 1) You are sinning by watching or reading something that opposes God, now in my opinion Naruto does not oppose God in any way, shape, or, form. It's simply an idea. Now, if you believed you had chakra and such then you would be worshiping it but you don't so I believe you're in the clear. 2) It's all okay, nothing is wrong with it. You can do whatever you want and God will be perfectly fine with it. This thinking as we all know is completely messed up. Some animes or mangas do have illicit content and inappropriate language BUT so do movies. Manga and anime are just like movies and books only in a different form. We need to judge what is appropriate to be watching, and what is not appropriate to be watching. (or reading) My point is, if you think you are alright with God watching and reading what you will. Then you need to make that decision.

P.S. I love anime and manga as well. I just have to be careful what I put in because you reap what you sow.  

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:35 pm
I watch a lot of different anime myself.Some of the series I thought were interesting were High School DxD, Katekyo Hitman Reborn, Roasrio + Vampire and Kuroshitsuji (Black Butler).

I most commonly watch Action/Adventure, Comedy, Horror, Paranormal or Ecchi anime.Although I don't mind watching other types.But I really love the ones with super-power characters.And yes, I do watch ecchi, although it may not be the most decent thing to watch, I have what most would call a crude sense of humor.

The problem with most people that don't watch anime is they believe because you watch it, you don't have the capability to tell the difference between fiction and reality.At least, that was the problem friends of mine and myself have dealt with.To be honest, people shouldn't be so judgemental, and when they are, they shouldn't be so harsh with their judgements.But unfortunatly to say people that have different views generally don't get along.That is unless they have truly given themselves to God, and are capable of accepting others.In my personal opinion, I'd say people's biggest problem with that specific situation would be that they're afraid.Of what, I'm not sure.It could be a multitude of things.

Perhaps you could try talking to them? I'm sure they would be willing to listen if they are as devout to God as they believe themselves to be.
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:11 pm
@ xXxAngelic-EvilxXx:
Ahh, that was a very good point, you reap what you sow. I'll keep that in mind, thanks! biggrin
Btw, I really like your sig! smile
@ Haisieo Korigashine:
Tha'ts very true, See... It's very entertaining to me, watching anime and The idea of the story is just very good as well,. Say for example, good vs evil, or things like that. smile

Wow! Thanks guys! You all are so kind and understanding! biggrin
It frustrates me how so many people in my church, just... jump to conclusions and judge without batting an eye; and it's sad to watch really.
Because, the "moral of the story (if you will) is why I watch/read it and other animes. smile
I don't See why they could just understand, instead of judging and really, not doing anything to hide their judgement at all. It's just so blunt. :/
Though, I do know that God isn't that way, Because He's perfect! biggrin  

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:02 pm
Many people find it easy to make quick judgements about things they know basically nothing about. First impressions are pretty big, so if they have a negative first impression, well, they'll probably stamp anime in general with that and basically convince themselves that there's no need to pay any attention to it. confused Which is particularly sad, considering that anime's produced some very thought-provoking things, as well as some truly excellent entertainment.  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:05 pm
I read manga and watch anime a lot and my church knows Im a huge anime geek and they've never said anything was wrong with it. Im big in Naruto too.
I just think that anime is fiction and its nothing but fantasy. I could understand if there was nothing but nudity or something in it but I don't see anything wrong with anime in general.  

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:25 pm
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Many people find it easy to make quick judgements about things they know basically nothing about. First impressions are pretty big, so if they have a negative first impression, well, they'll probably stamp anime in general with that and basically convince themselves that there's no need to pay any attention to it. confused Which is particularly sad, considering that anime's produced some very thought-provoking things, as well as some truly excellent entertainment.


^^^ This.

I know my friend went to a supposedly-Christian Baptist school when she was little, and was told that Harry Potter was of the devil, Pokemon was evil, Disney was trying to teach children to be evil, etc. etc.

People love to pass judgement on things they know little-to-nothing about. They react like animals when exposed to these kinds of stimuli; they don't think about it, they just think about all the initial bad feelings it gave them, and use that as the only justification for calling the stimuli "evil".

Just like a child that fears going to the doctor; they don't understand that there's more to it than just "getting a shot that I don't like" (such as going to the doctor to get better when sick, or to prevent illness by getting a check-up, or just to simply feel better), but that's all they think about. All they think about is the ONE bad thing, the shot. And therefore, in the eyes of a child, all doctors are to be feared and considered unwanted.

Sorry if I'm not being super clear, I probably could have written this better.
But anyways, there's nothing wrong with anime/manga, it's just another art form like oil painting, classical music, dance, photography, television, comic books, etc. And with any art form, obviously you can still have porn and corruption and whatnot, but that shouldn't destroy the validity of all the artists who DON'T draw anime porn.

Tell the people at your church that they need to not be ignorant, fearful, or hateful towards anime/manga, because it is a legitimate form of art and literature. And then give them examples.

ALSO, EVEN BETTER, go find some Christian anime/manga, and show it to them. Because it exists out there, somewhere. That outta change their minds. But you do have to be careful picking examples, because sometimes Japanese artists have this really really weird and bizarre idea of what Christianity is about and make it this really weird crazy psychedelic thing (prime examples: Evangelion, Trinity Blood) that makes absolutely no sense to us westerners. LOL  
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:21 pm
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Many people find it easy to make quick judgements about things they know basically nothing about. First impressions are pretty big, so if they have a negative first impression, well, they'll probably stamp anime in general with that and basically convince themselves that there's no need to pay any attention to it. confused Which is particularly sad, considering that anime's produced some very thought-provoking things, as well as some truly excellent entertainment.


^^^ This.

I know my friend went to a supposedly-Christian Baptist school when she was little, and was told that Harry Potter was of the devil, Pokemon was evil, Disney was trying to teach children to be evil, etc. etc.

People love to pass judgement on things they know little-to-nothing about. They react like animals when exposed to these kinds of stimuli; they don't think about it, they just think about all the initial bad feelings it gave them, and use that as the only justification for calling the stimuli "evil".

Just like a child that fears going to the doctor; they don't understand that there's more to it than just "getting a shot that I don't like" (such as going to the doctor to get better when sick, or to prevent illness by getting a check-up, or just to simply feel better), but that's all they think about. All they think about is the ONE bad thing, the shot. And therefore, in the eyes of a child, all doctors are to be feared and considered unwanted.

Sorry if I'm not being super clear, I probably could have written this better.
But anyways, there's nothing wrong with anime/manga, it's just another art form like oil painting, classical music, dance, photography, television, comic books, etc. And with any art form, obviously you can still have porn and corruption and whatnot, but that shouldn't destroy the validity of all the artists who DON'T draw anime porn.

Tell the people at your church that they need to not be ignorant, fearful, or hateful towards anime/manga, because it is a legitimate form of art and literature. And then give them examples.

ALSO, EVEN BETTER, go find some Christian anime/manga, and show it to them. Because it exists out there, somewhere. That outta change their minds. But you do have to be careful picking examples, because sometimes Japanese artists have this really really weird and bizarre idea of what Christianity is about and make it this really weird crazy psychedelic thing (prime examples: Evangelion, Trinity Blood) that makes absolutely no sense to us westerners. LOL


This. Is exactly what's going on for sure.
I wasn't told that all of this stuff is evil well mostly because I found it before I went to my church now but maybe it -could've- been that way. So I 100% agree with that statement.
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