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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:08 am
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4dreye/20120328#79413

In this Wizards.com article, Jon Schindehette discusses art of armor in different cultures, environments, and the topic of women in armor.

All of this is in relation the the art of warriors found in a roleplaying book. Tell me what you think. Ladies especially, what is your take on the dwarven cleavage armor in the 4e PHB and MM, bugbear boobs, or the leather midriff armor in the Equipment chapter?

Where is the line to be drawn between fantasy and realism in the regard of armor design? Schindehette points out that armor designed to be worn by women is pretty fantastic at the outset.  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:10 pm
If a woman is wearing bikini armor then most of the time when they avoid damage it's by some form of parrying or dodging, so it really isn't an issue of logic then.

Sure you could argue that bikini armor defeats the purpose of armor to begin with but then you have to remember that in reality, most warriors were never fully protected. Their vitals were, which is really the main flaw of bikini armor, but this is fantasy world. Why not show a little cleavage when you're fast enough to dodge arrows?

It's nice to look at.

Really, where the line should be drawn depends on who is telling the story. If someone can sell a story with a chick wearing bikini armor, then why not? As the article suggests, it may be appropriate for the culture. That's what really should matter. So yeah, I think taking into consideration how something exists in your fantasy universe means a lot more than how practical its design might be. You can play around with it to the extent that the inherent deficiencies based on design alone don't matter. You can't justify the things that really don't fit though, usually.  

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:17 pm
I think that if a female fantasy character is holding anything larger than a dagger they need at least a chain shirt (no cleavage you dont want a hole straight though to your chest) and if they are wielding a large weapon they need to have full plate that covers everything, for mages...They can wear whatever the hell they please its not like robes are going to protect them at all.  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:27 pm
Hauberks, or chain shirts, are heavy and not really needed. Leather armor would do just fine and provide adequate protection.

But basing it on the size of their weapon? I don't see how that works. What about the type of dagger they might be using? Some are significantly larger than others. Why would they need a hauberk if they're wielding a rapier or a longsword? Sure, the weapons are dangerous, but it's not like wearing heavier armor is going to help you wield them better.

A mage can wear more than robes, and besides, shouldn't the same thing apply to them? Some aren't half bad at swinging those who staffs around. And even though cloth armor itself isn't going to offer the same protection as hardened leather, riveted plates, and so on, it can't just be said it protects from nothing. If it's made as more specifically it can help cushion some blunt damage, and at the very least it offers a layer of protection against outside elements. It would be just as important for a mage to have their whole body covered even in robes to protect themselves from ACID RAIN!!!! as it would any other class with any other kind of armor.  

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:28 pm
It IS easier to cast spells in a tube top.  
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