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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:26 pm
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Okay, I have a bard character who needs to play double agent for a bit...I need to disguise him and disguise him well, as the guy he's going to work for is both higher level and has True Sight on a magic item. My bard can Bluff (+20, and he can cast Glibness), but I'm insecure about his Disguise check (+11). Also, he can Alter Self/Polymorph into a new form that doesn't look like him. If he fails this, he is as good as dead. At the moment, he has 12k saved up. Given that, I have a few questions.
1.) What are some ways to foil True Seeing? So far, the best options seems to be scrolls/potions of Greater Spell Immunity, but I'm worried about what would happen if that gets dispelled (a definite possibility), and I want to plan for it, as he would, as well as I can.
2.) How much disguise bonus does an Alter Self or Polymorph give? I think Alter Self said you get a +10 when creating a disguise for yourself, but this meant to be a whole different identity or persona with (where possible...more likely with Polymorph) different height, weight, etc. Would that Disguise check only come into play if someone has reason to suspect this persona of being him, or is it just when looking at him?
3.) Any items to help with any of this?
Any other ideas or suggestions would be very welcome. Thank you for your input!
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:14 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:48 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:53 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:49 am
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[Copy&Pasta from another post I did for similar question + extra*]
Hmm... Lets see what I can think of while "away from books"...
1) Possibly, if a team mate or friendly Thieve's Guild has a higher Disguise modifier you can have them try and disguise ya [Aid other bonus?]
2) As stated already, Masterwork Disguise Kit is a sure fire +2 circumstance bonus.
3) I believe that there was a magic item or two that granted Competence bonuses [I believe Mask of Lies MiC book, gave a +5-ish] but most if not all are 'masks' of one form or another. Mask of Lies for example looks like of like a hockey mask imho with crosses as holes for the eyes and mouth. -Edit- Mask of Lies [MiC: 4.5k gp/Comp. Adventurer: 17k gp] gives a +5 to Bluff. Silly me...
4) I honestly don't know the answer, but what happens if you Polymorph into a Changeling, and use the Changeling's Alter Self-like ability [its a physical not illusion] ability to change yourself again? -Edit-
Arc Vembris Changeling's shapechanging can still be seen through by True Sight. It's a physical tranformation, but TS still shows the changeling's natural form.
5) Along with Second Impression, Assume Quirk [googled to be sure] takes the familiar sights penalty a person gets when trying to see through your disguise. Sadly I think it has a duration/day [1 hour-ish?]
6*) Dust of Disappearance
7*) Nondetection
8*) Quote: "The cloak of Khyber spell (Dragon 337) is a 3rd level sor/wiz spell that lasts 1 day/level and renders any illusion/shapechange/disguise magic on the caster impervious to true seeing as long as the disguise is kept up for six or more hours." -along with-
Quote: "A more official (and probably more recent) source for the spell is City of Stormreach page 59. [another spell found in City of Stormreach is Animate Infectious Zombie on page 144.] The internet claims Cloak of Khyber is also found in Mark of Heroes, a softcover module published by WotC for the RPGA." [Google-fu'd from posts somewhere else on the internet]
9*) Circlet of Persuasion for a +3 Cha check bonus to your Disguise?
10*) Get a way to have a Medusa's Flesh to Stone sight? [not serious, just an idea I had...]
... That's all I got for now...
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:53 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:12 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:32 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:07 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:17 pm
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