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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:58 pm


Well, yeah.

But I mean that, splitting all the nerves can actually kill a person on it's own.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:59 pm


Yes, if you split all the nerves. But we only need the ones that sense heat, cold, and pain. Feeling altogether should be left untouched. We will need them to know that they're holding things and how much pressure they're exerting on an object.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:58 pm


I, um...

Pain = touch.

You can't just "cut" the nerves that feel pain, all of them technically feel pain, whether or that's a good feeling or a bad feelings.

As far as feeling temperature is concerned, I'm pretty sure that, that's controlled by the same nerves that sense pain but, your brain registers temperature slightly differently, in some cases.



Basically, their all the same nerve, and you can't isolate just one them.



Perhaps pain conditioning can be a good idea, or, even pain, temperature conditioning.

I've been temperature conditioning for quite some time now and...

I fell into the water while kayaking, what should have made me freezing cold, but, I was fine, and even when I dried off and got back and all that I was fine.

I'm not amazing or anything...

But this one guy ran up the Himalayan mountains in like, nothing but his underwear and shoes, and he also was able to stay in the water for 30 minutes before even reaching signs of the onset of hypothermia, were most people would have gotten hypothermia in about 5 minutes.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:58 am


Ok I wasn't talking about cutting into nerves.......Only Enhancing Basically Muscles, The Senses, and of course Nerves...To an extent though.....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:58 pm


Suicidesoldier#1
I, um...

Pain = touch.

You can't just "cut" the nerves that feel pain, all of them technically feel pain, whether or that's a good feeling or a bad feelings.

As far as feeling temperature is concerned, I'm pretty sure that, that's controlled by the same nerves that sense pain but, your brain registers temperature slightly differently, in some cases.



Basically, their all the same nerve, and you can't isolate just one them.



Perhaps pain conditioning can be a good idea, or, even pain, temperature conditioning.

I've been temperature conditioning for quite some time now and...

I fell into the water while kayaking, what should have made me freezing cold, but, I was fine, and even when I dried off and got back and all that I was fine.

I'm not amazing or anything...

But this one guy ran up the Himalayan mountains in like, nothing but his underwear and shoes, and he also was able to stay in the water for 30 minutes before even reaching signs of the onset of hypothermia, were most people would have gotten hypothermia in about 5 minutes.


Actually, you can isolate them. There are people, like my youngest nephew, who don't feel pain, but can feel. Obviously there's something with his nerves that doesn't allow the sensing of pain, but does let him know when he's touching things.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:27 pm


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I, um...

Pain = touch.

You can't just "cut" the nerves that feel pain, all of them technically feel pain, whether or that's a good feeling or a bad feelings.

As far as feeling temperature is concerned, I'm pretty sure that, that's controlled by the same nerves that sense pain but, your brain registers temperature slightly differently, in some cases.



Basically, their all the same nerve, and you can't isolate just one them.



Perhaps pain conditioning can be a good idea, or, even pain, temperature conditioning.

I've been temperature conditioning for quite some time now and...

I fell into the water while kayaking, what should have made me freezing cold, but, I was fine, and even when I dried off and got back and all that I was fine.

I'm not amazing or anything...

But this one guy ran up the Himalayan mountains in like, nothing but his underwear and shoes, and he also was able to stay in the water for 30 minutes before even reaching signs of the onset of hypothermia, were most people would have gotten hypothermia in about 5 minutes.


Actually, you can isolate them. There are people, like my youngest nephew, who don't feel pain, but can feel. Obviously there's something with his nerves that doesn't allow the sensing of pain, but does let him know when he's touching things.


Maybe he's just very insensitive, or maybe he's just pain conditioned, or hell, just tough.

It's possible to reduce you're over-all feeling; yes, you can still feel, but pain doesn't affect you.


It's also possible that his brain doesn't register any nervous synapse above a certain level.

Sort of like if you were "deaf" to noises over a certain decibel range.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:43 pm


Well he's 4, so it's not any of those things. I'm not saying it would be easy, just that it's possible. And if the brain is capable of not registering pain, then it is possible to make it do so surgically.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:46 pm


You're literally talking about brain surgery, something that humans have little grasp over and that takes a PHD + 12 years to even begin to start to work in.

I highly doubt that, that's a reasonable option.

The best idea is to condition people to pain.



Or, deaden the nerves.

They'll retain feeling, but, what should be really painful will only feel slightly painful.

Sort of like your nephew, rather than taking away all feeling, you'll just make them less sensitive to it.

Yes, you can still feel, it's just that, you don't feel very much.

Enough to notice something is there, but not enough to freak out.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:48 pm


Herm... decreased metabolism + high altitude training is a start, but...

What would be great would be high artificial gravity training, like I.E. bumping it up to around 2 G's. Got any ideas?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:58 pm


Nope no ideas for gravity stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:07 pm


Damn. For natural enhancements, exercise + replicated high altitude training + increased gravity + growth hormone would equal huge physical enhancements.

I mean, the spetsnaz trained their people for 5 years; in two, I could theoretically have people who are extremely strong super human like people.

You would slowly ramp up the gravity until it was at like 2G, in which they would exercise and run normally. Then, you would also decrease the amount of oxygen, and possibly decrease the temperature; you might even regulate the caloric intake.



Not only would they become stronger from exercise, but the slowly increased gravity and harsher environment would force their body to grow in response.

Through slow conditioning, possibly a few hundred days, or even a year, you would hopefully have these people lifting the same weights and running at the same speed and the like, or more, under these new conditions.

Then, you would slowly decrease it, and by the end of it, they would at least be two times stronger, as well as be able to jump higher, run faster, have more endurance, etc.



That would pwn.

Although you would need to do it all in space.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:29 pm


Sweet idea, minus the space thing. Super soldiers are good. Super soldiers with bone density loss are less good.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:49 pm


O_o

The point of about it being in outerspace is so that you can increase the level of gravity.

We can create artificial gravity in a gravity less environment.

So, theoretically, their bone density should increase.

Which was part of the point of putting them into outerspace.
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