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 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:19 am
Kentucky Fried Hookers In my own words and personal opinion, I do not believe Homosexuality is a sin for if I did, it would go against my values. I don't believe what Scripture says, but I have an idea of what it's trying to say. I, as my own person, try to be understanding. It's hard. It truly is. You have all these thoughts saying, "It's wrong! It's wrong!" and then...there's that one thought....that one thought that says "It's okay. Go in their mind and try to see." I constantly try to evaluate my surroundings, my thoughts, and even myself, the former sentences presented that. I am a supporter for the community of these people. Now I know you may be telling me it's wrong, that I should not support this sin. But those are your personal views. Mine are to try and understand, and some of you may even share this understanding. With it, you could learn just a bit more. I have gay friends. I am in a Gay-Straight Alliance at my school. (That Alliance really is a blessing. It is so kind, and we have so much fun and discuss troubles) I love these people. Yes, sometimes I do dislike when they do certain things like distracting me (Moreso I do it.) and such, but I'd still love them. In general (and I apologize for rambling), my own values are to try and be understanding. I am involved in the community to a degree and think that love is love (Which I think by now most of you probably agree somewhat to). I know that you can become ill if you lay with the same sex, but who can't, even a Man and a Women can contract something. It's all a matter of proper sex education and common sense. Marriage to me is really a unneeded matter. You marry whatever person you want, as long as they treat you right. (That doesn't mean marrying an animal or your favorite car!) - My sad attempt at humourat the last part, Dino I understand your viewpoint. I have tons of homosexual friends as well. But what I think you're getting confused at is the actions taken with homosexuality. God NEVER said to hate homosexuals, and he never will, this much is true. A lot of Christians, though, seem to bring hatred upon their community still, even in the wake of this knowledge. It is their ignorance. Thus, this brings up the term of "homophobic". (Of course, homophobia is a made up term; the actual definition of this word would be to be afraid of simularity, which is not what the term is used for. The correct term would be "homosexualityphobia". But that's a mouthful and annoying to say.) NOW, what I am trying to get at is that you can take your understanding of their sins and actions, stray from homophobia, and still show them love. You are completely correct for doing this, and I admire you so. BUT, you should not accept them as "normal", nor accept them as being "okay", yet show them love and compassion in order to explain God's view on their sins. EVERYONE must be understanding of homosexuals, because we sin the same as they sin. Our sins in our daily lives have no weight, no sin is worse than another. Lying to your parents about where you were last night is weighed in God's eyes the same as murdering a prophet. I commend you for trying to be understanding. I think we need more people like you in this world, especially during these trying times. I know, trust me I KNOW, how hard it is to try to be understanding of every individuals actions. It requires patience, as well as love, and a calm mind set. I used to get so extremely upset while I was studying and trying to act out the understanding of peoples actions because I would see people doing things just for the sake of hurting another (one thing I still have yet to understand fully). Over the years, though, I have decided that we need more than just understanding, yet also action, to try and show people how what they did was wrong. We can not change the world merely with just understanding. We must take that understanding, and turn it into much more.
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:18 pm
Yahshala 1 Corinthians 13 eramthgin a ni remaerd 1 Corinthians 13 eramthgin a ni remaerd I personally think Homosexuality is wrong because my view of the matter is that they are bonded by pure lust. The church isn't just what says it is wrong. Remember Sodom & Gomorra? I also believe the typical "It was Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve" argument. If you can't reproduce with the same sex, I think it's obviously wrong. Kinda like mules, or ligers, or zonkeys (horse+donkey / lion+tiger / zebra+donkey). They are created by man, and do not exist in nature, therefore they are unable to reproduce. This is probably one of the best arguments you could make against Homosexuality. It is plain logic. People argue with me all the time that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah isn't about homosexuality, but when you read it, it's pretty darn obvious. I have an aunt that argues that homosexuality is natural because it happens in the wild. All I can say to that is that it doesn't happen in droves like it does for humanity, so there is obviously a social aspect to "being gay". I also like to point out that those animals die without fulfilling the purpose they were pursuing, which was to multiply. It's funny that you talk about how an animal's purpose is to mulitply. A lot of people like to argue on this point, but I've realized something over the years that make their arguments invalid. Everyone likes sex, this much is true. But why? Why are people so drawn to sex? Because of our natural instinct to reproduce, of course. That's why sex is appealing, because sex is the act of reproducing. Thus, if two animals are doing "the deed" and not reproducing, then it must not be correct. Exactly :3 Also to mention the reason animals do it is a show of domination. It's a psychological reason animals do it. It's not of love. Nor is homosexuality of love it can not exist in homosexuality because love is not of the flesh. If they truly loved each other they would not need sex. Just as I love you guys and I love everyone. Doesn't mean I want to have sex with you and be with you for my life. Yes I love men that doesn't make me a homosexual because I would not want to have sex and be with them as a partner. Their so called "Love" is not LOVE. This is why YHWH can not stand them. They taint and twist LOVE which is what He is YHWH is love it is His gift. Then they try and make us have to accept them because they supposedly have love. They start corrupting love and begin corrupting society. Every empire that has fallen has accepted homosexuality as a normal thing.(It's usually the last straw for the empire) History repeats itself for a reason yet no one bothers to learn. Very true. There is a very clear what love is in 1 Corinthians 13 Love is: patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres No where does it say I must have sex with someone in order to love them. There are many kinds of love and many love languages, which is not limited to intimate love.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:31 am
NIGHTWINGLES god made everyone the way they were meant to be. he loves everyone. its not wrong. he did make us how we are meant to be, but we as humans can change that by our thoughts and actions, which become habits and eventually lifestyle choices.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:53 am
ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!
Mentioning vague verses and trying to tie them in does nothing but cause arguments. THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC VERSES REGARDING THIS. NEVER try to find a verse to match your beliefs--find the verse, and then decide what you believe.
Simple Bible verse: Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
For those of you that disagree: you are not arguing against me, you are arguing against the Bible, and so against God.
For those of you who have been throwing out random verses that have nothing to do with this, please know the Bible before you try to use it in an argument.
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:49 am
werdofilms The curch says so.. but I disagree I mean whats so wroung with it? This video explains a lot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMjXucTFaM We are all God's children. The bible suggests that homosexual ACTS is the sin... and being the person God makes you out to be is who you are, and He loves you regardless... so does God dislike the idea that you are being yourself? Of course not, Sillypants. smile Of course, that IS Old Testament. Just as it says women are not to speak when they are bleeding - not to be gross but... what else IS there to do? XD But... nope - In my opinion, it's not really wrong, the man who was INSPIRED by God to write that part of the bible just did not like the idea of a man and a man being in love and expressing so. smile FYI: I have Gay friends who are strong Christians. smile
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:20 pm
Jessyjeans werdofilms The curch says so.. but I disagree I mean whats so wroung with it? This video explains a lot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMjXucTFaM We are all God's children. The bible suggests that homosexual ACTS is the sin... and being the person God makes you out to be is who you are, and He loves you regardless... so does God dislike the idea that you are being yourself? Of course not, Sillypants. smile Of course, that IS Old Testament. Just as it says women are not to speak when they are bleeding - not to be gross but... what else IS there to do? XD But... nope - In my opinion, it's not really wrong, the man who was INSPIRED by God to write that part of the bible just did not like the idea of a man and a man being in love and expressing so. smile FYI: I have Gay friends who are strong Christians. smile I left this guild, Im no longer Cristian, sorry.
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:37 pm
Jessyjeans werdofilms The curch says so.. but I disagree I mean whats so wroung with it? This video explains a lot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMjXucTFaM We are all God's children. The bible suggests that homosexual ACTS is the sin... and being the person God makes you out to be is who you are, and He loves you regardless... so does God dislike the idea that you are being yourself? Of course not, Sillypants. smile Of course, that IS Old Testament. Just as it says women are not to speak when they are bleeding - not to be gross but... what else IS there to do? XD But... nope - In my opinion, it's not really wrong, the man who was INSPIRED by God to write that part of the bible just did not like the idea of a man and a man being in love and expressing so. smile FYI: I have Gay friends who are strong Christians. smile Most of your argument is left up to foolish assumption. If you're going to be a Christian, you must believe the Bible - as Christianity is based on the Bible. And according to II Peter 1:20-21 and II Timothy 3:16, the Bible was heard from God and written down. If you choose to not believe the Bible, ask yourself if you really are a Christian and why you believe what you believe. Either you believe all of it or all of it is lies to you. And if all of the Bible is lies to you, then where do your beliefs come from? You might as well conjure up your own random ones. This website, which I wrote, explains the whole argument against homosexuality. It is Biblically based - as any Christian argument should and must be. Christianty and HomosexualityIf you choose not to read, that's just being ignorant. If you choose to read but still ignore it, that's being just the same.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:01 am
This seems to be a very popular topic in the world nowadays.
Honestly, it is easy to argue about it and throw stripture about. The bible was written by man but through God and it is another way for him to speak to us. Dictating which parts are correct or not is like questioning God, which usually isn't a good thing.
In the bible it does say that God loves everyone, even when we sin. But so many misinterpret that for being able to sin freely and God let it slide. He doesn't. It is so easy to twist scripture to our liking, even if we know it is wrong.
But back on topic. God's word says homosexuality is a sin. It has many scriptures on it and makes it very clear it is a sin.
That being said, no where in the bible does it say it is okay to hate or be hateful to sinners. It says to show everyone love, even if it is not shown back. Everyone is a sinner, and it is wrong to condemn others when you are just as bad.
So to answer the question, yes homosexuallity is wrong, but it is not the only sin out there. Don't be so quick to judge, try to have an open mind on things.
Sorry for the unorganized post, I was just winging it. Everyone have a great day and God bless .
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:31 pm
What I'm about to say is coming from God's Word.
Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
Leviticus 18:22
"They declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul!"
The biblical god just doesn't seem to care much for homosexuals. And he gets especially upset when "they hide it not."
Isaiah 3:9
With his usual intolerance, Paul condemns homosexuals (including lesbians). This is the only clear reference to lesbians in the Bible.
Romans 1:26-26
Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death."
Romans 1:31-32
Now those are just a few of the verses pertaining to this topic. Being Gay is an abomination to the Lord.
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:07 am
It is something wrong and a sin as stated in the bible, which leads me to the question: Can't you Christians mind your own business? To oppose homosexual and bi-sexual people is to protect and support the patriarchal society and to support the oppression of women, not to mention to have a serious 'Big Brother' complex. Also: 
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:44 pm
 xxxNo one is born gay, bisexual or lesbian despite what people say, these our sins before God my daddy.
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:16 pm
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iamlost4ever Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:42 pm
It comes down to one simple fact: Either you believe in Christ as your Savior and follow His word or not.
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