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rosadria

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:59 pm
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Nonetheless, The Bible still says that Jesus broke the Sabbath. The Pharisees got on the guy carrying the mat during the Sabbath. The Bible said Jesus did break the Sabbath.

To be fair, the Bible also quotes Satan.  
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:01 pm
It was recorded in the Bible, but is was the Pharisees that said it.

But now you are going around in circles with this arguement and trying to get me to agree with you, it seems. I gave you the guidelines that I follow for keeping the Sabbath because merely going to church isn't enough to keep the Sabbath holy. If one must work on that day, then God is an understanding and knows what we must do to provide for ourselves And healing and serving others isn't breaking the Sabbath because we are to serve others in all things. Sitting idle on the Sabbath isn't an option either because God condemns idleness. We are to act according to how our conscience dictates in all matters and that's what I do.  

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Azkeel

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:17 am
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Azkeel
You have to realize the Messiah is our rest.


And where does it say that in Scripture?
Matthew 11:28-30 (King James Version)

28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

(Now Hebrews)

Hbr 4:1 ¶ Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.


Hbr 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].


Hbr 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


Hbr 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.


Hbr 4:5 And in this [place] again, If they shall enter into my rest.


Hbr 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:


Hbr 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.


Hbr 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.


Hbr 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


Hbr 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.


Hbr 4:11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.


Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Hbr 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things [are] naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.


Hbr 4:14 ¶ Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession.


Hbr 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.


Hbr 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

(Use wisdom in understanding this)  
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:06 am
Azkeel
Matthew 11:28-30 (King James Version)

28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.


This just shows that Jesus will help us bear our burdens.

Quote:
(Now Hebrews)

Hbr 4:1 ¶ Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.


Hbr 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].


Hbr 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


Hbr 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.


Hbr 4:5 And in this [place] again, If they shall enter into my rest.


Hbr 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:


Hbr 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.


Hbr 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.


Hbr 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


Hbr 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.


Hbr 4:11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.


Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Hbr 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things [are] naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.


Hbr 4:14 ¶ Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession.


Hbr 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.


Hbr 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

(Use wisdom in understanding)

According to what I've studied about entering into "the rest of the Lord" it's referring to the death of the physical body. It has nothing to do with every day being the Sabbath. If that were the case then it would contradict the scriptures that talk about one day a week, the seventh day, being set apart for the Sabbath.  

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