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 Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:19 pm
I am legally blind to the point that I need to carry a white cane with a red tip when in unfamiliar or crowded places. I sometimes feel bad, because I know that this, and my sunglasses, does not fit at all with the lolita ideal. I have not heard of another albino lolita. I did, however find a picture of an albino sideshow freak of years passed dressed in a lolita style dress.  I think that people with disabilities make just as good lolitas as those without, though I've never seen another lolita with a visible disability... I'm also against using service items that one does not need as props, for example, I would not approve of a guro lolita using crutches with her outfit just because they looked good. What do you think?
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:43 pm
A lolita I know from St. Louis is in a wheelchair, actually, and there was a discussion of such things on EGL a few months ago. I can't remember exactly why it is that Leah is wheelchair bound, however. She can walk, but only for brief periods, and usually needs assistance balancing to do so.
There also is a lolita on EGL who frequently models for a photographer friend, and is legally blind. There are photos of her from a meet-up where she didn't put her cane aside for the camera, but I can't find the post.
It doesn't stop either girl from wearing and loving lolita, however.
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:49 pm
That's good to know! (I've never been on EGL.) Even though I don't know them personally, I feel less alone now.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:50 am
spuntino A lolita I know from St. Louis is in a wheelchair, actually, and there was a discussion of such things on EGL a few months ago. I can't remember exactly why it is that Leah is wheelchair bound, however. She can walk, but only for brief periods, and usually needs assistance balancing to do so.
There also is a lolita on EGL who frequently models for a photographer friend, and is legally blind. There are photos of her from a meet-up where she didn't put her cane aside for the camera, but I can't find the post.
It doesn't stop either girl from wearing and loving lolita, however.
Yeah, I've definitely seen a couple of crippled girls, and girls with cerebral palsy post before on EGL and other places. Barely do I really see them though, at least not without whatever equipment they need to move around.
-...quand le soleil sera couché dans ton âme froide.-
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:39 am
Well, actually you can decorate almost every kind of medical supplies somehow that they fit the lolita fashion. However, I have seen some eyeglass chains that were made for being worn with the lolita styles if the outfit is fitting.  These days people with visible disabilities are rare thought since there are so many replacements for bodyparts and such existing that you won't really notice.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:51 am
I feel a little guilty. The first thought I had about an albino lolita was "wow, that would be so pretty." That's a little demeaning.
I hadn't really thought about guro accessories as insulting to the people who actually need them before, you have an excellent point about that. I suppose it goes for eyepatches as well.
You really did make me think.
Still, if you need one, making it pretty and match your outfit makes perfect sense to me. I have a friend, not a lolita, just really into hot pink, with a pink wheelchair and cane.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:34 pm
WhiteValkyrie These days people with visible disabilities are rare thought since there are so many replacements for bodyparts and such existing that you won't really notice. I beg to differ. I have a friend who lost his legs in Iraq. He has prosthetic ones, but you can tell the difference. And, when they break, he's in a wheelchair. Replacements don't work for everyone. I can't get eye replacements and things like glasses and contacts didn't work for me. Though I do agree that it works for some people. I saw a documentary on deaf-blind triplets who had cochlear implants and one had prosthetic eyes, so that she could appear normal. Kittywitch I feel a little guilty. The first thought I had about an albino lolita was "wow, that would be so pretty." That's a little demeaning. I hadn't really thought about guro accessories as insulting to the people who actually need them before, you have an excellent point about that. I suppose it goes for eyepatches as well. You really did make me think. Still, if you need one, making it pretty and match your outfit makes perfect sense to me. I have a friend, not a lolita, just really into hot pink, with a pink wheelchair and cane. Don't feel guilty. There are much worse things that could have been said. I've actually been thinking about doing a guro-loli with an eye-patch, since my right eye is so bad (I keep my right eye closed a lot of the time.). I never thought of eye-patches as bad, probably because they are so mainstream with pirates and all, but I suppose some people would be reasonably upset. I can see wheelchair and crutch decorations, but my cane has to be its normal red and white, and decorations would impede my mobility. People always talk about my cane as a prop and tell me that it can't be taken here or there, needs to be peace bonded, etc. I even had someone ask me if I was dressed up as one of the three blind mice in lolita (I was so angry!)! Your friend's hot pink wheelchair and cane sound totally awesome!
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:53 pm
The lolita ideal is based on fashion, and to some, behavior. It's not like you're wearing a mini skirt and legwarmers with your lolita outfit. Your eyeglasses and cane aren't fashion statements. They are tools you need to get by. I don't think they detract from what you're wearing at all. People with more mainstream fashion with eyeglasses and canes look just fine, why not lolita? Razeasha People always talk about my cane as a prop and tell me that it can't be taken here or there, needs to be peace bonded, etc. I even had someone ask me if I was dressed up as one of the three blind mice in lolita (I was so angry!)! WHAT!? How rude. I know some cosplay can be very convincing, but honestly, you'd think they would assume on the safe side that it was genuine, or at least ask politely. I'm sorry you had an experience like that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:10 pm
I definitely agree that guro-loli requires a level of tact that the other genres of lolita don't because the "props" are based on the real medical needs of others. I am also officially legally blind (but I have such high level contact lenses/glasses) that I can manage. I think that searching for a pair of loliable sunglasses would be a good endeavor or even taking a pair of regular lolita-esque glasses and replacing the frames. As for your cane, if the desire ever took you, you could use coordinating satin ribbon and wrap it around with a bow in a manner that would not impede it's uses.
As for whether or not people with disabilities make good lolitas, I had not considered it. Not because I've never thought of it, but because I don't see why any one with any disability shouldn't be as beautiful as another in any fashion, lolita included. A lolita in a wheelchair isn't any less beautiful just because she is in the wheel chair. A cane or sunglasses will not make you less of a lolita, and while slightly tactless in a way I agree with the above post that my first thought was that a lolita with albinism would be visually quite lovely.
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:36 pm
Razeasha Kittywitch Still, if you need one, making it pretty and match your outfit makes perfect sense to me. I have a friend, not a lolita, just really into hot pink, with a pink wheelchair and cane. Your friend's hot pink wheelchair and cane sound totally awesome! She's painted "THE GAME" onto the bottom, so that "if I run anyone over, they lose the game."
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:14 pm
KimChi Panda I definitely agree that guro-loli requires a level of tact that the other genres of lolita don't because the "props" are based on the real medical needs of others. I am also officially legally blind (but I have such high level contact lenses/glasses) that I can manage. I think that searching for a pair of loliable sunglasses would be a good endeavor or even taking a pair of regular lolita-esque glasses and replacing the frames. As for your cane, if the desire ever took you, you could use coordinating satin ribbon and wrap it around with a bow in a manner that would not impede it's uses.
As for whether or not people with disabilities make good lolitas, I had not considered it. Not because I've never thought of it, but because I don't see why any one with any disability shouldn't be as beautiful as another in any fashion, lolita included. A lolita in a wheelchair isn't any less beautiful just because she is in the wheel chair. A cane or sunglasses will not make you less of a lolita, and while slightly tactless in a way I agree with the above post that my first thought was that a lolita with albinism would be visually quite lovely. I think that most of us are in agreement on the guro-loli idea. I had glasses and hard lenses, but they both hurt more than they helped. The cane does not bother me...it's the sunglasses...I'm very specific about how dark they must be and how much light they have to block out. They are almost never loliable. (If you'd like to see, I posted pictures in the sticky where everyone else has.) Kittywitch Razeasha Kittywitch Still, if you need one, making it pretty and match your outfit makes perfect sense to me. I have a friend, not a lolita, just really into hot pink, with a pink wheelchair and cane. Your friend's hot pink wheelchair and cane sound totally awesome! She's painted "THE GAME" onto the bottom, so that "if I run anyone over, they lose the game." That's epic, and I just lost the game.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:48 am
Well, that is a article made by a chronic ill lolita. It made me almost cry because it was so wonderful written and I think everybody should read it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:07 pm
WhiteValkyrie Well, that is a article made by a chronic ill lolita. It made me almost cry because it was so wonderful written and I think everybody should read it. That was really beautiful and inspiring. I do agree that wveryone here should read this. Thank you so much for posting it.
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