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 Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:51 pm
Kamirose pezhi Kamirose I think she's referring to the amount of 'bite' you put on the mouthpiece. You should be putting more pressure on an alto mouthpiece than a bari - the reason is, bari sax reeds need to reach lower notes than an alto. In order to reach lower notes, you need to allow the reed to make larger vibrations. It's just like how on just your own instrument, when you're trying to reach low notes you have to relax your jaw a bit. no...you shouldn't bite anymore on a bari mouthpiece than on a soprano. ideally you want to be able to have the same exact amount of pressure on every sax. of course your mouth will be closer together on a soprano but not tighter. the reason is it's just as hard hitting a low note on a soprano as it is on a bari. biting down does the same thing on every sax: it ruins your tone. it makes it too edgy and it ruins your low notes. Of course you don't really bite down on the mouthpiece, that's why I put the word in quotes. And having the exact same amount of pressure on a bari sax as you put on a soprano sax would just mean that you can't reach the right notes on the bari. Again, the reed needs to make larger vibrations on the bari, and if you don't relax your jaw then you will be restricting those vibrations from happening, resulting in the notes either being sharp or unreachable. It's the same reason why you don't play the same on a trumpet as you do on a tuba. (to the tuba/trumpet comparison)that isn't even very applicable. the trumpet and tuba don't even have the same tubing. not even very close tubing. saxes are all the same basic design(aside from straight and curved, but you can straighten and curve all saxes) and i know what your saying, but you don't understand fully what i'm saying i'm saying that you need to have the same big vibrations on soprano as you need on bari. i'm not saying close your bari embouchure, i'm saying open your soprano embouchure. the same pressure you put on the reed and mouthpiece on bari you put the same on the soprano. this applies to ALL the saxes. i specialize in playing ALL four of the mainstream saxes(sop, alto, ten, and bari) and every single person who has heard me, compared to others, compliments me on my big sound on ALL of the saxes. yes, your mouth will be farther apart on a bari compared to any of the others, but you shouldn't have more pressure on the others. i'm not sure if i'm explaining this in a way that you would understand, but it's like you can hold a balloon half-way blown up between your hands, but you don't squeeze till it starts to indent. you use the same amount of pressure to hold but not dent a balloon that is fully blown up. do you understand? your hands are farther apart but you're using the same amount of pressure
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:38 pm
THe fingerings are the same for all the saxophones, they are in different keys though. If you were to play the b-flat scale with all the saxophones you would have to transpose. THe alto starts on a 'g' and the tenor starts on a 'c'. YOuy would have to figure out for the soprano and bari, I dont play those 2.
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:51 pm
Ducky580 THe fingerings are the same for all the saxophones, they are in different keys though. If you were to play the b-flat scale with all the saxophones you would have to transpose. THe alto starts on a 'g' and the tenor starts on a 'c'. YOuy would have to figure out for the soprano and bari, I dont play those 2. you start on C for soprano and G for bari razz ...soprano is Bb alto is Eb tenor is Bb bari is Eb... biggrin
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:05 pm
Of course it madders and differs how much bite you put on your instrument. I play an alto sax, and my freind playes a baritone. He had to drop his jaw way more to get that lower sound out while I sqeese my mouth to make my sound. Yes, to your question, the alto saxaphone has to bite down more than a baritone saxaphone...
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:35 pm
beckyfallsdown676 Of course it madders and differs how much bite you put on your instrument. I play an alto sax, and my freind playes a baritone. He had to drop his jaw way more to get that lower sound out while I sqeese my mouth to make my sound. Yes, to your question, the alto saxaphone has to bite down more than a baritone saxaphone... it's so sad how much ignorance there is in the world of musical instruments sad . if you're biting at all to make sound on any sax, you're biting too much. if you squeeze your mouth to make sound, then you have bad embouchure. i'm sorry, but it's true. and you can try to tell me that i'm wrong all you want, but i will always have better embouchure than you. and chances are, people would rather hear me play a simple piece of music than hear you play an amazing technical piece. this is because i sound good, i don't sound harsh. i'm not saying i CAN'T play a fast technical piece, and i'm not saying that you don't sound good. i'm just trying to help all saxophone players, whether or not they believe me is up to them and their experiments with the things i tell them.
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:58 pm
YEP! All of the fingering is the same.
Just you have to watch your concerts and what not.
and the way you hold your embouchure is different.
I originally play alto, but this year I ended up playing Bari, Tenor and Soprano as well.
I find the Tenor embouchure the hardest...
>x>;;;
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:00 am
quack_moo YEP! All of the fingering is the same.
Just you have to watch your concerts and what not.
and the way you hold your embouchure is different.
I originally play alto, but this year I ended up playing Bari, Tenor and Soprano as well.
I find the Tenor embouchure the hardest...
>x>;;; e.e...-sigh-..
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:46 pm
@ Pezhi:
W-what? Am I saying something wrong?
Is there not a difference between embouchure
between the different saxophones?
>x>;;;
I don't bite
and I don't squeeze.
Its about air and the position the mouth piece is in your mouth
*is worried*
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:50 am
quack_moo @ Pezhi:
W-what? Am I saying something wrong?
Is there not a difference between embouchure
between the different saxophones?
>x>;;;
I don't bite
and I don't squeeze.
Its about air and the position the mouth piece is in your mouth
*is worried* well..i gave an analogy of a balloon earlier..i think that describes what should happen pretty well...you lips will be farther or closer depending on what instrument you're playing, but you should still have the same basic shape and pressure for all of them o.o...
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:03 pm
Kamirose It's the same reason why you don't play the same on a trumpet as you do on a tuba. umm.... i don't know much about sax.... I'm a brass player, you play trumpet, tuba, trombone, every brass except french horn with the same embouchure. from trumpet to tuba you just use a different sized hole but the embouchure has the same shape... so apparently you are ignorant about sax and all brass instuments
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:12 pm
Yup!
Even the crosses do! The Sub Contra Base (Tubax) Contra Base Base Barritone Tennor Alto C Melody Sopprano (i 4 get how to spell this 1 but its simmilar to the 1 b4 it) Soprillo (<---- just a nick name for the cross between a saxophone and a piccolo and once again i stink at spelling the real name sweatdrop )
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:45 pm
The Tenor and Alto sax have the same fingerings. the soprano has different fingerings.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:33 pm
x_LaLaLady_x The Tenor and Alto sax have the same fingerings. the soprano has different fingerings. i have no idea where you're getting your facts. all saxes have the same fingerings...but there are exceptions with that, as with all things...take the slide sax for example, it obviously can't have the same "fingerings" as the rest...but the soprano, alto, tenor, and bari all definitely have the same fingerings.(bari can sometimes go lower, but all the notes playable on an alto are fingered the same on all four of those)
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