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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:24 am
Long time since I've posted, so I figured I'd come out with something deep...
I have a friend that I've known for years. This friend has been there for me through a lot of the tough times, and I really appreciate everything that she has done for me.
However, as of late, things have been beyond sour. Both of our personalities have changed over time, and they conflict constantly with each other. It's gotten to the point where I don't want to be in the same room with her at times.
Mind you, this individual is a friend, not a signifigant other in any way, so in my mind, I don't see it as being the same as breaking up.
Normally, people just fade out, stop talking to each other, and go their own separate ways without ever addressing the issue, but I don't think that's the best way to do things this time around.
So I guess I have a couple of questions that I have to ask the general 21+ crew...
1. Have you ever had to consciously end a friendship. If so, what was it about?
2. What did you have to do/say in order to end the friendship, and how did the other person take it?
3. Did you ever make contact with the person later on (months/years) and try to be friends again, and if so did it work out?
4. General comments about friendships that didn't work out.
Thanks guys.
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:26 pm
I had a friend in a similar situation. We've been friends since middle school and we were practically inseparable in High school. After high school, she went to college and I worked my a** off. So we started seeing each other less and less, and then she started hanging out with other people. Wasn't a big deal, except she was changing to accommodate this new circle of friends. By the time she left for college outside of the state, things were pretty shaky between us. I didn't like the person she was becoming and she would ditch me and whoever to be with someone else almost immediately. So when she left the state, I was pretty relieved. Then she came back with even shadier people. People who convinced her that it was perfectly okay to do things like make out with a whole bunch of drunk guys-3 of which were in very good relationships and admittedly one who was my own boyfriend. And I'm not justifying his actions, but he was drunk, and she wasn't. I tried my damnedest to salvage what was left of our friendship after that, but that whole night was pretty much the last straw. I called her up one day we got together and I just spilled my guts to her. She claimed that it was conflict of interest. I know it's because she stopped taking care of herself and started to mold herself to fit others needs. In the end, we decided we had too many neutral friends to stop talking completely. And we agreed we can tolerate each other if we're in the company of others. So we decided to remain acquaintances. There's less tension amongst our group gatherings that way, and there may be a possibility that we might be able to pick up the remnants of our friendship again. It's been this way now for a good year and a half, I think. And we've tried hanging out together maybe two times since, but she canceled on me both times. It's impossible to ignore a good 8-10 year chunk of your life with someone. I'm not ever going to say that me and this girl will never be friends again. But because we actually sat down and confronted each other about our broken friendship, I can look back on it and have no regrets even if our relationship stays the way it is now... In the end, whatever you choose to do, I suggest leaving everything in the best of your interests that way; you don't wanna' look down the road years from now and wonder "What if" or think with that whole "Woulda', Shoulda', Could" type of mentality, especially if your guys were such great friends at some point. Either which way, I hope everything goes well for you. Hope I helped sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:52 pm
I guess I've mostly taken the "fade out" route...confronting the end of a friendship is hard. My former best friend and I decided, however, that it was in our best interest to no longer consider ourselves "best" friends so much as just "friends". We still talk and hang out, and I would say that our friendship is now a lot better for lessened expectations.
I had another friend however where things weren't quite so...natural. She and I had been friends for about 4 years, then she went off to college and changed a whole lot into a person with really radical views who was really self-absorbed and whiny. I actually ended up forcing the end of that friendship really, because we were just too different at that point for it to work out well. Basically I just stopped talking to her and haven't talked to her since. I think this has happened a couple of times...consciously stopping talking to someone, and if they don't make the effort back, it seems understandable.
Different expectations come with different labels, and it also depends on what values you put on those labels. To some people, a friend can be a really casual thing.
I would say that if you're meant to be friends again someday, you will be. People change in interesting ways.
Dunno if any of that helps.
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 pm
I've had that happen with close and long term friends twice over the past few years. In both cases, there were a lot of things that I was finding difficult about the friendship, but because of our histories, I'd persevered regardless.
I ended up going the fade out route with both, largely because it wasn't in either case a situation that arose out of conflict -there were just aspects of their personalities or their demands on the friendship that I couldn't deal with anymore.
One of them, I'm happy to say has been resolved -after some time out from the friendship (I think it ended up being about eight months) I was thinking of him fondly again, so I contacted him, and we talked and were able to pick up where we left off, but with a far better understanding of what we both wanted from the friendship. (I think the time out was crucial though, because I was so ridiculously annoyed by everything this person did, that I just couldn't be around him, after some time, I was able to remember all of the good things along with the not so good.)
The other, I think is just over. Our personalities are just too different, and I can't for the life of me figure out how we stuck it out as long as we did. That said, I don't hate her, I feel sad that I don't get to hear from her about things going on in her life, but I don't want to go back, I can't see how things would change...
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:48 am
I "broke up" (there was no fight) with my best friend almost two years ago. It was the best, hardest decision I have made in a long time. While she wasn't out-right mean, she was catty and always put me down - so I lived in her shaddow. I was the 'ugly, sour, cold, dumb brunette friend'. She was the 'pretty blonde, fun, flirty, smart one' who always attracted all the guys. She had a boyfriend for about 8 years. During that time she put an end to 6 of my relationships. If she didn't like the guy, I'd pay for it with her being mean to me.
Considering there were good times and we had been very close friends since we were 14 or 15 - went to school and then university together, and even started working at the same company after finishing university - so it was really hard to let her go as she was a huge part of my life. Now it seems that the less I tell her about my life, the less criticism I get and the more confidence I have - and the longer my relationships last!!
It took me about a year to get over the break up. Now we are friends, but on equal grounds. So, Dafthank, it might hurt now, but there is light (and happiness) and the end of the road.
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:04 am
1. Have you ever had to consciously end a friendship. If so, what was it about?
I've unfortunately had to do so a few times. Mostly with my friend Mandie. She's my oldest friend, and I was a bride's maid at her wedding (one of my greatest honors in this life). Unfortunately I'm Catholic and Mandie's hard core Protestant. I've cut her off on several occasions because her blatant anti-Catholicism has bothered me greatly. It's a little like a friendship between a Jew and a Nazi at times. As a person she loves me- but she cannot stop and put a cork in it when she bashes Catholics and puts down the religion to a great degree. I'm not talking about bad priest jokes- but like flat out hate. I don't think she really realizes that what she feels is a strong prejudice. I've confronted her on it countless times- thus the on and off again friendship. I almost always come back around. Despite her religious intolerance, Mandie does have a loving heart. She's a beautiful person- just has a horrible shortcoming in the diversity embracing arena. I am still semi-closeted about my bisexuality because I know how she'll react. Also, I had an incident a couple years back in which there was a faint chance I was pregnant and miscarried- when I called Mandie sobbing she condemned me for premarital sexuality and told me I was afraid to be pregnant. In reality I was terrified I had lost life inside of me.
Thus many of my friends are agnostics, pagans, or other non-christian religions. I've been burned by a couple Christian friends. There are good Christians out there, but I'm afraid to introduce my gay friends to Christian friends for the ones who aren't.
Another incident was Kaity, if you want another wall of Text I'd be happy to share. That incident led to my infamous emo moment in the guild where I fought with a member and defected. Doressa convinced me to come back smile
2. What did you have to do/say in order to end the friendship, and how did the other person take it?
With Mandie I pretty much told her that I wouldn't stand for being friends with someone who wouldn't accept me as the religion I am. With Kaity it was a huge fight- the next day she had me removed from facebook and my space- so I figured she didn't want to be friends anymore. I don't think any of my friends took it any better than I did. Rifting/fighting with someone you either still care about or once cared about is very hard. I don't take it well- save for break ups. I'm very, very used to break ups these days.
3. Did you ever make contact with the person later on (months/years) and try to be friends again, and if so did it work out?
Yes with both Mandie and Kaity- but on different levels. Mandie and I missed a huge chunk of each other's lives. We'll never get that back (despite knowing each other since we were five). But, with Mandie we can build something stronger. Mandie's husband is an awesome man who has helped her become a lot more open minded and tolerant. I don't think she'll ever fully accept my faith- but I have confidence she can learn to be less pointlessly snide and intolerant. With Kaity we've renewed our friendship- but it's not the same. Kaity has a bad habit of never really letting fully back into her heart people she's rifted with. She has a hard time with being honest with people. Her husband has pretty much filled the void in her life where I once was. I think with Kaity my single hood alienates us these days because she married young-- and I am refusing to marry until I find someone I want with all my being to spend my life with (I might never wed, but it's a worthy sacrifice to me). Though Kaity and I are pretty good to go with hanging out and joking now--- but we're not as bonded at the hip as we once were sad
4. General comments about friendships that didn't work out
I think I've done enough walls of text, don't cha think? biggrin
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:54 pm
I ended a friendship over something very silly. My school was going to be shut down and everyone was going crazy. I live in a very small town and our school is basically all we have. It's a K-12 school, so I pretty much grew up in it. Well, we were all stressed out and I was in all these things trying to save the school and my best friend didn't care. She let me know that she could care less about it all. It bothered me, but she really made me mad when she started to make fun of my efforts. It just hurt me so bad, so I decided to stop talking to her.
I just refused to talk to her. I know now how stupid I was being, but at the time, I thought I was making the right choice. She didn't really want to settle anything, so she just made fun of me behind my back.
Well, our school was re-opening and we had a special graduation. After two years of not talking, she came up and hugged me saying she was sorry and I told her I was too. We didn't really talk much after that, but went to the same college together and even there we didn't talk until 3 years ago. So, we were just kind of friends and now we're friends again and she's my roommate. We probably won't ever consider each other best friends again, but I'm glad that she's at least my friend. =)
That's pretty much the only friendship I've had that didn't work out. I really regret being so dumb, but that's how it is. I usually just let friends fade away though. I'm usually just too shy to really keep a friendship. xp
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