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Are you for the iraq war?
yes
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no
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Miss Wilde

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:00 pm
Steven Hawkings
aoi no mizu
and even thougn those wars were similar they could have also been stoped, for sparta and athens were sister states that bouth belong to the greek empire, and the crusades althoug war does obtaion land sonner or latter someone stronger comes along and so it never ends, but the crusaders never realised this and were domed to fail from the start. the corruption of the church at the time should have been enough to make the knight realise that tring to take that land was wrong.
Well seeing how the main Crusader army was pheasants with knights as support class. You have to ask yourself, how educated the overall army was?

Richard the First knew Arabic as did other knights around him in the other Crusades. Just being in Western Europe made you next to the Pope after your own rule. Ask the Holy Roman Empire about what this does if a leader pissed off the Pope.

Sparta wanted Athens to stop it's expansion over Greece. They were sister states, though many wars could have been stopped. But then again we see that over and over again.


Actually, there wasn't really a "Greek Empire." Athens, Sparta, and all of the other city-states only really felt connected because they spoke the same language (to them, a "barbarian" literally meant someone who did not speak Greek). Greece was not united until Alexander the Great. This was partly because of the mountainous geography of the region; it kept tribes from mixing with each other very much while their cultures were developing. Think about it: a single country with a unified government wouldn't possibly contain two cities as different as Athens and Sparta in government and philosophies.  
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:51 pm
really i did not know that  

the grey seer
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:41 pm
Miss Wilde
Steven Hawkings
aoi no mizu
and even thougn those wars were similar they could have also been stoped, for sparta and athens were sister states that bouth belong to the greek empire, and the crusades althoug war does obtaion land sonner or latter someone stronger comes along and so it never ends, but the crusaders never realised this and were domed to fail from the start. the corruption of the church at the time should have been enough to make the knight realise that tring to take that land was wrong.
Well seeing how the main Crusader army was pheasants with knights as support class. You have to ask yourself, how educated the overall army was?

Richard the First knew Arabic as did other knights around him in the other Crusades. Just being in Western Europe made you next to the Pope after your own rule. Ask the Holy Roman Empire about what this does if a leader pissed off the Pope.

Sparta wanted Athens to stop it's expansion over Greece. They were sister states, though many wars could have been stopped. But then again we see that over and over again.


Actually, there wasn't really a "Greek Empire." Athens, Sparta, and all of the other city-states only really felt connected because they spoke the same language (to them, a "barbarian" literally meant someone who did not speak Greek). Greece was not united until Alexander the Great. This was partly because of the mountainous geography of the region; it kept tribes from mixing with each other very much while their cultures were developing. Think about it: a single country with a unified government wouldn't possibly contain two cities as different as Athens and Sparta in government and philosophies.
I know that, Athens had their imperial colonies that was under their control. The empire they did have control over the land in government from the seats of Athens were they imposed law on other regions. Athens did have empire, since it did go over their city-state boundary. The reason why Sparta went to war was for that reason, of imperial expansion of lands. After all Athens tried to use the council set up for protection against Persia and make them subjects of Athens, in return Sparta and others made their own conical of city states.

I well aware of what ,"babros" means and what Philip and his son did to Greece, after Athens and Sparta was weakened from war with each other.  
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:58 am
i take it they never recovered  

the grey seer
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:45 am
Jariah Syn
i take it they never recovered
They were so weak from three wars with each other that they were easily defeated and that ended the Helnetic period of Greece.  
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 1:39 pm
man humans r so violent  

the grey seer
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:46 pm
Jariah Syn
man humans r so violent
Social animals often are even with different species.  
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:29 pm
true  

the grey seer
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