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Maliciousness

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:31 pm


Nialla
wakusei
Maliciousness
wakusei
Maliciousness
I love Yoda. He can flip high....

Flip high, he does. But sucked, the sequels did.


I never saw episode three... but he kicked a** in the second episode. That was the only good part out of the entire boring a** movie xd

There was what I call "baby killing" in the 3rd one. It was sad.


oh I'd forgotten about that! That was sad....

On another note - I just saw the preview for this weeks eppy! It looks very intense.
Though Ana saying that "they're back" seems silly since we SAW the Others in the last episode.



Yeah it does....
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:29 am


Lost Vs. the Grammys who do you think will win? whee

Kalpini


evabh

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:44 pm


Kalpini
Lost Vs. the Grammys who do you think will win? whee


No contest here- LOST!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:42 pm


Okay. So, I was hardly paying any attention during Sawyer's gun speech, because I was too busy giggling at the way he was holding that gun. He was all, "This is my new p***s! Say hello to my new p***s!"

Yes, I am twelve inside. But it's so much fun.

TheTsunuffy
Crew


Maliciousness

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:31 pm


TheTsunuffy
Okay. So, I was hardly paying any attention during Sawyer's gun speech, because I was too busy giggling at the way he was holding that gun. He was all, "This is my new p***s! Say hello to my new p***s!"

Yes, I am twelve inside. But it's so much fun.


And yet I can't help but continue to hate him O.o
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:32 pm


Maliciousness
And yet I can't help but continue to hate him O.o


Hate him for what? I mean, I know what he's done that makes you hate him, as a person, but as a character? He's awesome.

Plus, he hates himself. And he wants you to hate him. So you're only giving him what he wants.

TheTsunuffy
Crew


evabh

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:32 am


I never thought I would see the day that Charlie and Sawyer paired up for anything. It was an interesting alliance. (Also interesting to see Kate's mom as the waitress.)
I was hoping Danielle would have shown up already. In a lot of ways, she's my favorite character. What do you think about the stranger she captured?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:48 am


Danielle captured a stranger?
I want her to come back and for someone to clue in that they saw her child with the Others.

I also noticed Kate's mom and thought that was neat. Sawyer just keeps crossing paths with people's parents.

I was so disappointed with what Charlie did to Sun. The desire for revenge is just leading him to become more and more isolated.

In an unrelated plot - I thought the scenes with Hurley and Sayid were really sweet.

non642


Maliciousness

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:04 pm


TheTsunuffy
Maliciousness
And yet I can't help but continue to hate him O.o


Hate him for what? I mean, I know what he's done that makes you hate him, as a person, but as a character? He's awesome.

Plus, he hates himself. And he wants you to hate him. So you're only giving him what he wants.


I don't get what your trying to say. Have I ever actually liked anyone? Well besides a select few. Ohh if only you knew me in the other forums. i hate Sawyer, deal with it wink I don't have to explain my reasons.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:09 pm


Just when I was starting to like Sawyer he has to go and do a thing like that! I also hate Charlie now. I think he's finally plumeted into some sort of madness. If he pulls himself out of it I may be able to muster up enough like. But, right now I'm really dissapointed. But, this is part of the reason I like this show. The line between the bad and good guys can't be drawn. It is a blurry shadow.

Anyway, I'm wondering if the religon theme is going to continue on the island. I hope not. If it turns out it is becoming a religous show, I'm not watching it any more. It shouldn't because it's Sci-fi and Sci-fi shows are usually secular but, you never know.

CookiesandDreams


Opari

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:16 pm


CookiesandDreams
Just when I was starting to like Sawyer he has to go and do a thing like that! I also hate Charlie now. I think he's finally plumeted into some sort of madness. If he pulls himself out of it I may be able to muster up enough like. But, right now I'm really dissapointed. But, this is part of the reason I like this show. The line between the bad and good guys can't be drawn. It is a blurry shadow.

Anyway, I'm wondering if the religon theme is going to continue on the island. I hope not. If it turns out it is becoming a religous show, I'm not watching it any more. It shouldn't because it's Sci-fi and Sci-fi shows are usually secular but, you never know.


I know what you mean about Sawyer and Charlie. I so wanted to like Sawyer... despite what he had done in the past. I thought that being on the island would change him in some way, but he said it himslef. You cant change what you are.

Charlie on the other hand, was good at one point. Before the drugs. I am sure he wanted to be good for Claire and the baby too. I didnt get to see the episode before last, but I read enogh about it to know whats going on.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:46 pm


CookiesandDreams
Just when I was starting to like Sawyer he has to go and do a thing like that! I also hate Charlie now. I think he's finally plumeted into some sort of madness. If he pulls himself out of it I may be able to muster up enough like. But, right now I'm really dissapointed. But, this is part of the reason I like this show. The line between the bad and good guys can't be drawn. It is a blurry shadow.


I don't mind him never becoming good again. Redemption storylines are all the rage. I like the idea that he's not good, but that it isn't the drugs making him bad. Too many people blame the drugs and don't take responsibility. I don't like Charlie the person very much anymore, but I love Charlie the character.

I knew Sawyer was gonna do something to make people hate him. It's what he does. He doesn't want anyone to like him.

CookiesandDreams
Anyway, I'm wondering if the religon theme is going to continue on the island. I hope not. If it turns out it is becoming a religous show, I'm not watching it any more. It shouldn't because it's Sci-fi and Sci-fi shows are usually secular but, you never know.


Hah! Secular, but only with regards to Christianity. Which is hilarious. Respect other religions! But not Christianity! Christianity is evil! Even if we wouldn't be what we are now without it. For better and for worse. Hollywood's complete lack of respect for Christianity is annoying. And I'm not even a Christian.

I like the religious themes. I think that religion IS an important part of our lives, and that ignoring that is being false to humanity. People need to have something to believe in. Even atheists have beliefs.

I just don't understand people, like you, who won't watch it if it has religious motifs. I mean, I certainly can't think that you've never watched or read anything with religious motifs of some sort. LotR was heavy with it. Lost is just being less dodgy and more obvious. The Matrix, ostensibly Sci-Fi, was filled almost to bursting with it.

Denoriel
I know what you mean about Sawyer and Charlie. I so wanted to like Sawyer... despite what he had done in the past. I thought that being on the island would change him in some way, but he said it himslef. You cant change what you are.


Well, you can, but it isn't simple or easy. And you're likely to relapse into old ways. I like that he isn't just good all of a sudden, that it's a stuggle and he doesn't always win it.

Denoriel
Charlie on the other hand, was good at one point. Before the drugs. I am sure he wanted to be good for Claire and the baby too. I didnt get to see the episode before last, but I read enogh about it to know whats going on.


Charlie WAS good. Then he was betrayed time and time again by people he trusted, who he thought of as family. This was just the last straw for the little guy.

I can understand Charlie's reasoning in this case, even if what he did is awful. Locke went out of his way to humiliate Charlie, unnecessarily, after he obtained Charlie's trust. Charlie's motives are simple.

Tsunuffy


JacksAvatar

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:19 pm


I didn't catch that was Kates mom as the waitress (I just thought she looked like Florence Henderson). Maybe the reason they keep having Sawyer having encounters with peoples parents is the fact that he never had a parental figure to look towards.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:59 am


To JackofClubs Ressurection- nice point about the parents motif! Sounds like just the thing the writers would do, but I never saw it until you brought it up.

As far as the religious motif, I agree that religion is a big part of people's lives, so it does not to be on the show on some level. But that's all it should be- just another level of what the survivors are dealing with. It's all a matter of degree.

Also, as far as Charlie, the drugs could still be having an affect. Withdrawals are one of the worst things a person can go through. Add the drugs still being around, and the way people are acting toward him, and we may be seeing a part of Charlie's personality which isn't really the true Charlie.

As to Sawyer, I don't know that he wants people to hate him so much as he's afraid to trust anyone. It's safer to force people to keep their distance. After all, he's a con man. He os all people know how easy it is to be betrayed by someone you believed was sincere.

evabh


Enah

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:43 pm


Tsunuffy
I knew Sawyer was gonna do something to make people hate him. It's what he does. He doesn't want anyone to like him.
I think part of it is that he has feelings for Kate. His flashbacks showed that he had true feelings for...um...Cass? Was that her name? But even though he might have loved her, he still ******** her over. I think that Sawyer screwed Kate over this time in order to make her hate him because he has feelings for her, and he doesn't want to hurt her the way he hurt...um...Cass?

Tsunuffy
CookiesandDreams
Anyway, I'm wondering if the religon theme is going to continue on the island. I hope not. If it turns out it is becoming a religous show, I'm not watching it any more. It shouldn't because it's Sci-fi and Sci-fi shows are usually secular but, you never know.
Hah! Secular, but only with regards to Christianity. Which is hilarious. Respect other religions! But not Christianity! Christianity is evil! Even if we wouldn't be what we are now without it. For better and for worse. Hollywood's complete lack of respect for Christianity is annoying. And I'm not even a Christian.

I like the religious themes. I think that religion IS an important part of our lives, and that ignoring that is being false to humanity. People need to have something to believe in. Even atheists have beliefs.

I just don't understand people, like you, who won't watch it if it has religious motifs. I mean, I certainly can't think that you've never watched or read anything with religious motifs of some sort. LotR was heavy with it. Lost is just being less dodgy and more obvious. The Matrix, ostensibly Sci-Fi, was filled almost to bursting with it.
Watch Battlestar Galactica. It's practically it's own religion.

But, I agree with Tsunuffy. I actually would be rather appaled if religion didn't come up. In situations like theirs (stranded and dying) religion becomes a larger part of their lives. Those who were already religious practice their faith because that's what they believe in. People who were of religious upbringing, but not practicing, usually begin practicing again because they need something to believe in. Sometimes people who don't think they believe in anything end up embracing religion, if only to have something to keep hope alive.

I'm not saying that plane crashes automatically equal religion for everyone, but it would be insane to cut it out entirely because there are a lot of interesting storylines that could come out of it. Religions aren't evil, cults are evil. Unless it's, like...a muppet cult. Or a puppet-Angel cult...was puppet-Angel a muppet?
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