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 Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:32 am
I actually love shopping on the HT website. I love the clothing they carry, like the Tripp NYC gear and fairy shirts.
As for the quality of their clothing, my clothing has held up very, very well. It's all about how you wash them and such. Wear and tear is normal after a certain point, and as with almost all clothing these days, they aren't automatically made to last forever anymore. My HT clothing has lasted pretty well so far. And you can always take a needle and thread and reinforce seams and such too.
Their lolita styled clothing is very pretty, but a lot of it doesn't come in plus sizes, so I guess I'm out of luck to a point. I see nothing wrong with HT selling lolita styled clothing - it's just another store, like Aeropostle or Lucky Brand Jeans, and as long as they're providing another outlet for American girls to get a healthy dose of lolita, it's all good.
I will say this though, goth and gothic are NOT one in the same. Goth refers to goth music, and goths are fans of goth music, with no set "dress code". And if anyone says I'm nothing but a wannabe gothic girl because of my bondage pants, they should honestly be whacked upside the head.
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:01 pm
Well, I've actually found that Hot Topic sells a lot of larger sized clothes, and not enough small sizes ._.; Whenever I go, all of the dresses are in size large and extra large - I guess they've either been sold out, or they just don't stock as many {or both}. Also, as for bondage-y pants, I've never been able to find ONE pair of pants that are smaller than size 5. I like baggy pants and all, but that's really pushing it. If I can't get them to actually stay up, then I can't buy them. But I guess that's what belts are for. (@x@);;;
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:38 pm
Well I think some of the stuff they sell. I got too really cute loli like dresses and with some acessaries they it works well, though some of the other stuff is abit over priced (now a days what isn't?) but I there are worst stores. And they sell some other stuff I like. I have no problem with them besides labeling some outfits lolita when their not but that's not a big deal. Though some skirts are too short and that annoys my parents but I wear shorts under them anyways. Basically over all I have no problems and shop there time to time.
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:01 pm
I like the shoes and other stuff but the dresses arn't really that great. they are kinda cheep. They fabric isn't that great it be better to make your own. Its not worth the money you spend.
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:56 pm
I'm one of the people that likes ht's lolita stuff. I think it's cute and a cheap alternitave to the brand-name stuff.
And, I'd just like to make a point on the huge 'fake goth' uprising at the begining of this thread. There is a BIG diffrence between 'gothic' and 'goth'. Goth either a) a roman-era civilization centered in germany, fance and other countries of europe, or b) a modern fashion. Goth fashion is what you see being worn by alot of highschoolers. Gothic is a) an arcitecture style, b) a font style, or c) another modern fashion. Gothic is what alot of us wear. Unfourtunately, the general public hears these two words and think 'hey, goth is just short for gothic, so they must be the same thing'. Well, no, it isn't. And that's where we get alot of missunderstandings. Now, back on topic...
I don't have anything loli from HT because I"m too poor for even that at the moment *cry* But I'd love to get my hands on a few of their things just for casual outfits.
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:38 pm
eristell_neko I'm one of the people that likes ht's lolita stuff. I think it's cute and a cheap alternitave to the brand-name stuff. And, I'd just like to make a point on the huge 'fake goth' uprising at the begining of this thread. There is a BIG diffrence between 'gothic' and 'goth'. Goth either a) a roman-era civilization centered in germany, fance and other countries of europe, or b) a modern fashion. Goth fashion is what you see being worn by alot of highschoolers. Gothic is a) an arcitecture style, b) a font style, or c) another modern fashion. Gothic is what alot of us wear. Unfourtunately, the general public hears these two words and think 'hey, goth is just short for gothic, so they must be the same thing'. Well, no, it isn't. And that's where we get alot of missunderstandings. Now, back on topic... I don't have anything loli from HT because I"m too poor for even that at the moment *cry* But I'd love to get my hands on a few of their things just for casual outfits. Yeah i agree with the gothic/goth thing Also our avatars are a lot alike the hair eyes bunny t shirts lol i thought it was funny.
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:57 pm
Yes, quite entertaining. *nods* I wound up giving her the bunny shirt because I didn't want her going around topless anymore. lol.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:50 am
eristell_neko There is a BIG diffrence between 'gothic' and 'goth'.
From Gothic(from a view of Gothic styles or genres as dark or gloomy).]
Dictionary.com later goes on to define gothic as:
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1. Of or relating to an architectural style prevalent in western Europe from the 12th through the 15th century and characterized by pointed arches, rib vaulting, and a developing emphasis on verticality and the impression of height.
2. Of or relating to an architectural style derived from medieval Gothic.
# Of or relating to painting, sculpture, or other art forms prevalent in northern Europe from the 12th through the 15th century.
often gothic Of or relating to a style of fiction that emphasizes the grotesque, mysterious, and desolate.
Granted, there is also this last definition, but I really think this definition just comes from people taking a word, and trying to make it mean something else (by mutating and distorting the original meaning). You have to think: What did this word originally mean? Gothic had the first 3 definitions hundreds of years before fake goth ('modern goth') was created. I think that means the original meaning has priority over what the general public knows as 'gothic'.eristell_neko Goth either a) a roman-era civilization centered in germany, fance and other countries of europe, or b) a modern fashion. Goth fashion is what you see being worn by alot of highschoolers. Gothic is a) an arcitecture style, b) a font style, or c) another modern fashion. eristell_neko Gothic is what alot of us wear. Unfourtunately, the general public hears these two words and think 'hey, goth is just short for gothic, so they must be the same thing'. Well, no, it isn't. And that's where we get alot of missunderstandings.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:42 am
Hot Topic is turning the art that I am passionate about into a nasty fad among 14 year olds trying to appear rebellious, unique, and "Asian".
Hot Topic is a major corporation out to make money off of a youth striving for pre-packaged independance, rather than supporting "being yourself".
I do not at all support Hot Topic, OR it's sudden obsession with packaging the art of Lolita and shipping it out for teenagers to see it and turn it into some shallow, mainstream trend.
Flame me if you want. Hot Topic pisses me off.
To be honest, I feel very similarly about Cosmates Japan, but that's another story XD;;
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:11 pm
Holy s**t. I wasn't sure whether to LAUGH or CRY when I read everybody's post. Most of the people posted about how " Hot Topic makes kids think it's cool to be unoriginal"
Well guess what?!
NEWS FLASH
By calling yourself a Lolita and talking about it nonstop doesn't make you very original either.
Of coarse they are trying to make money. Would you open a store and gives things out for free? You have a store to make money off of products.
Some shallow mainstream trend? They dont hold clothing to ruin a subculture or scene. Once again, they do it to make money. Because Japanese street fashion, lolita included, are becoming popular so they're going to hold items that are indeed popular to make money. It's not like they get products to completely ruin a scene, like I said.
Anyway... Hot Topic is laying off lolita "like" clothing. Just because something has frills and ribbons with lace doesn't make it lolita. So, now it's set on punk and rockabilly so everybody can calm down.
I also dont like Hot Topic clothing, I dont see how anybody can pay $60 for a pair of pants that cost about $10 to make and that I could easily make myself. But yet, it's not just because " Oh nooezz they have clothing like lolita. Now America is going to a** rape it"
.....I'm done ._.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:56 pm
It wouldn't be so bad if you paid for what you got. The t-shirts always last me forever, but their cuter more expensive stuff falls apart way too fast. Granted, I am kinda a big girl and there's alot of stress on my clothing. And my whole idea about being original: The whole point is to be able to take something that everyone else has and make it yours, make people notice it for something more.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:53 pm
stalebreadcrums Holy s**t. I wasn't sure whether to LAUGH or CRY when I read everybody's post. Most of the people posted about how " Hot Topic makes kids think it's cool to be unoriginal"
Well guess what?! NEWS FLASHBy calling yourself a Lolita and talking about it nonstop doesn't make you very original either.
Of coarse they are trying to make money. Would you open a store and gives things out for free? You have a store to make money off of products.
Some shallow mainstream trend? They dont hold clothing to ruin a subculture or scene. Once again, they do it to make money. Because Japanese street fashion, lolita included, are becoming popular so they're going to hold items that are indeed popular to make money. It's not like they get products to completely ruin a scene, like I said.
Anyway... Hot Topic is laying off lolita "like" clothing. Just because something has frills and ribbons with lace doesn't make it lolita. So, now it's set on punk and rockabilly so everybody can calm down.
I also dont like Hot Topic clothing, I dont see how anybody can pay $60 for a pair of pants that cost about $10 to make and that I could easily make myself. But yet, it's not just because " Oh nooezz they have clothing like lolita. Now America is going to a** rape it"
.....I'm done ._.
Whoa, freak out much? O:
Hot Topic pisses me off because they make bad quality products and feed off of adolescence's desperate need to be unique and/or draw attention to themselves.
Everyone is out to make money. Baby the Stars Shine Bright, even, is out to make money, just like Hot Topic is. The difference is that they tend to care about the product they're selling and make it WORTH the $200 you're spending on half an outfit rather than bullshitting as many cliches as they can into one, hot glueing it together, and selling it for 500x what it's worth.
(I'm not exaggerating, either. They used to sell some lace-rimmed stockings that I purchased without really inspecting them -- BAD MOVE -- and the lace fell off in the first wash. It was hot glued onto the sock. Not even kidding. gonk )
Just because they are moving from the art of Lolita to a**-ramming Rockabilly fashions and Punk lifestyles doesn't make it any better... D: it's the entire mindset of "WHAT'S THAT? YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO HAVE A PERSONALITY YOURSELF? :O HERE, GIVE US YO' CASH AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE CRAP YOU NEED TO BULLSHIT IT!"
If Lolita were becoming more popular, that'd be okay, but seeing it become a fad is offensive. Even seeing them drop it that quickly to move on to rockabilly and punk supports that to the same extent.
Who said they were trying to ruin a scene or fashion style? It's that they do everything they can to make money, including getting 13 year olds to beg their mothers for the $30 it takes to buy a black shirt they glued some white lace to, telling them "LOOK!!11 IT'S GOFFIK RORITA STYLE FRUM JIPAN, OMG UR FRENDZ WILL ALL FINK UR ORIGINAL AND UNIKQUE IF U WERRE IT!!!111 PARENTZ SUK LOL!! NIPPON ANARKY!!!! >___
And talking about something all the time might not make you original, but if you're having fun with it, what's the big effing deal? domokun
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:42 pm
Yes I spazzed Dx
Sorry for that, it's a little thing called pms
I didn't mean to base it off of your post solely, but I kind of look it for it was right there to point at
Yaahhh... I was an a*****e
And though I might not fully stick by what I s**t out two days ago some of the people's post on here are a little out there and not needed when it comes to the whole Hot Topic thing.
I dont see the big idea though. If kids are going to waist there money for peices of s**t clothing, let them. But I doubt it's going to effect anything.
But with the original thing sure, there isn't a deal about it, but a lot of people have said that how " Oh it's so unoriginal" but not to much lolita stuff is fully original.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:04 pm
It's all good. XD Everyone freaks out. Me included. I kinda freaked out rightbackatcha there, actually domokun ...
(It's when people freak out and refuse to accept other opinions that they need to be punched, which is not at all the case)
I agree about kids wasting their money. It doesn't, however, mean I support those selling it for being insensitive to the art form they're exploiting gonk ..
Most Lolita-style is not original at all. In any way. In point of the matter, Lolita is based entirely off of as many cliches as possible, is it not? whee
Not that that is a bad thing... heart
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