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 Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:50 pm
Hello to everyone n_n
Im a highschool graduate, barely, so I'll have some trouble with most of the advanced practical things mentioned here.
I'll try my best at handling the theory, since english isnt my native language ((>_>)), and to be a regular poster, if not, a reader.
Thanks for admitting me poweroutage n_n
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:34 am
Malkav de Ita Hello to everyone n_n Im a highschool graduate, barely, so I'll have some trouble with most of the advanced practical things mentioned here. I'll try my best at handling the theory, since english isnt my native language ((>_>)), and to be a regular poster, if not, a reader. Thanks for admitting me poweroutage n_n hey, no problem.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:40 pm
hello. yall can call tora or torasenshie i don't care which. But i'm 18 and just finished my senior year, i will be attending Embry-riddle Aeronautical university in prescott arizona in the spring of 2007. I will study to gain a degree in Space physics. At my school a horrible project called "Senior project" or SP for short is required and i did mine on rocket propulsion systems. I studied the history and mechanics of rocketry. SP requires one to make a working physical product and mine was a home build rocket that done a cool lookin loop-t-loop before it dug itself nose first into the groud about an inch and a half and about fifty feet from my dad's office buildings at his work. it was well.... next time i won't launch one there. I have been voted most quiet but opinionated in lyceum academy of new hanover high school, which is the academy i graduated from. I also have found an interes in antropology if i spelled it right. I am also a good friend of Quantumjitters so i believe that is it. if not i will just edit.
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I thought of something else. I love Leos. and i have a complete army of them. I have a love brigade, and unloving brigade also know as "OMG help meeeeee ::bone cracking::" brigade, support brigade, comfort brigade, don't mess with me brigade, nuke brigade, mosqito killing brigade, deer sigting brigade, southern pride drill team, sniper brigde wich are also know as the stalkers, antroplogy brigade, smart a** brigade, oh yes the john your girl firend is PMSing squad and they have direct connections to the protect tora from GF brigade ( I just started that sector of my army it was well needed sweatdrop sweatdrop ). And i am always advancing my Army with every strange experience.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:47 pm
torasenshie hello. yall can call tora or torasenshie i don't care which. But i'm 18 and just finished my senior year, i will be attending Embry-riddle Aeronautical university in prescott arizona in the spring of 2007. I will study to gain a degree in Space physics. At my school a horrible project called "Senior project" or SP for short is required and i did mine on rocket propulsion systems. I studied the history and mechanics of rocketry. rocket history eh? I did an essay on the space race when in high school, my thesis was that the launching of sputnik increased friction between the two cold war powers and accentuated the arms race. Those crazy ICBMs! Sputnik was pretty cool, did you know the only reason we call the Van Der Waal magnetic field around the earth so is because of a faulty radio on Sputnik 2? Otherwise its name would have been pretty russian.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:23 pm
poweroutage torasenshie hello. yall can call tora or torasenshie i don't care which. But i'm 18 and just finished my senior year, i will be attending Embry-riddle Aeronautical university in prescott arizona in the spring of 2007. I will study to gain a degree in Space physics. At my school a horrible project called "Senior project" or SP for short is required and i did mine on rocket propulsion systems. I studied the history and mechanics of rocketry. rocket history eh? I did an essay on the space race when in high school, my thesis was that the launching of sputnik increased friction between the two cold war powers and accentuated the arms race. Those crazy ICBMs! Sputnik was pretty cool, did you know the only reason we call the Van Der Waal magnetic field around the earth so is because of a faulty radio on Sputnik 2? Otherwise its name would have been pretty russian. oh yes friction was created when the USSR reached space first on both occasions. But i didn't do too much research into the history side mostly with the ancient rockets, revolutionary rockets, confederate and Union rocket brigades in the American civil war, pre-WWII rockets that led to up to WWII and some of the Nazi scientists that helped create NASA. it was really brief and not in detail at all. 13 page limit on my research paper.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:49 am
Hello world
I am... still naked. You can see my avatar right? Maybe he'll get dressed up later. I've survived first year of Civil Engineering at U of T. So far so good, only the barest of introductions into Statics. I do nothing at work and I may be hanging out here.
-Hat
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:47 pm
poweroutage Sputnik was pretty cool, did you know the only reason we call the Van Der Waal magnetic field around the earth so is because of a faulty radio on Sputnik 2? Otherwise its name would have been pretty russian. You're confusing van der Waals with Van Allen. The irony in the space race does not end there, however. Initially, the Soviet space program was an enormous political victory, but had almost no scientific value, while the American one lagged behind politically but made actual scientific progress. The exact reverse happened later on--the Americans put a man on the moon as political grandstanding, but the Soviet moon probes had much more scientific importance.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:37 pm
VorpalNeko poweroutage Sputnik was pretty cool, did you know the only reason we call the Van Der Waal magnetic field around the earth so is because of a faulty radio on Sputnik 2? Otherwise its name would have been pretty russian. You're confusing van der Waals with Van Allen. The irony in the space race does not end there, however. Initially, the Soviet space program was an enormous political victory, but had almost no scientific value, while the American one lagged behind politically but made actual scientific progress. The exact reverse happened later on--the Americans put a man on the moon as political grandstanding, but the Soviet moon probes had much more scientific importance. Van Allen, thank you. no of course it doesn't end there, that's the beginning of it. I dunno, what about that dog they put in space, was it Laika (hm don't remember), anyway that got a lot of information which was useful for taking ppl into space, although by the sounds of it, you don't consider space exploration useful. Sputnik 2 was full of probes hwr, it actually recorded useful stuff, but they had a faulty radio transmitter, so they never got the information. Also The Russians had used an ICBM to launch Sputnik into space while the Americans hesitated to use military based rockets (because they thought it would be bad for their image) until the very end. They finally submitted because military technology was more advanced than civilian made rockets. Developement of those rockets for launching of space objects was also important.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:04 am
poweroutage Van Allen, thank you. no of course it doesn't end there, that's the beginning of it. I dunno, what about that dog they put in space, was it Laika (hm don't remember), anyway that got a lot of information which was useful for taking ppl into space, although by the sounds of it, you don't consider space exploration useful. Not quite. I simply consider the scientific importance of such ventures to be proportional to the scientific data they return. This seems to me to be a very straightforward and natural measure. Frankly, I don't see any merit along these lines in Gararin or Aldrin and Armstrong getting joyrides. Showmanship gets points from politicians, but not from me. poweroutage Sputnik 2 was full of probes hwr, it actually recorded useful stuff, but they had a faulty radio transmitter, so they never got the information. I know; I'm simply saying that it failed to accomplish this, this being a part of the reason why early American ventures into space had more scientific significance than Soviet ones. This situation later reversed for a while. poweroutage Also The Russians had used an ICBM to launch Sputnik into space while the Americans hesitated to use military based rockets (because they thought it would be bad for their image) until the very end. They finally submitted because military technology was more advanced than civilian made rockets. Developement of those rockets for launching of space objects was also important. Don't misunderstand--I've made no claims of denigrating the political or military benefits of these programs. My only point is that from the scientific perspective, there could have been much better uses for those resources even if they still had to go to space exploration.
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:01 pm
VorpalNeko: don't you think that learning how to live in space is also of importance to humankind? I understand perfectly what you are saying, you're saying space exploration brings no 'scientific' advantages, but do you agree that there can be other advantages? Other than politics, don't you think that we need to eventually learn how to live in space? Or do you think this is on the whole a fruitless effort.
I think there may yet be some scientific advantages from space exploration. For example, say we learn how to survive in space for relatively long periods of time (artificial gravity, plants, whatnot) then we can potentially train professionals such as engineers and scientists to live there, who can then make instruments for scientific exloration in space instead of worrying about having to take them through the atmosphere. Thus instead of making them on Earth and then transporting them in cumbersome ways, we could just make them in space, and not worry about the restrictions (such as size and weight) that would be in place if we had to worry about launching them off with a rocket.
And also, we could automatically fix any problems with the equipement, and not have to rebuild it, and avoid things which for example happened with Sputnik 2.
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:42 am
Hey I'm still in secondary school (as it's called over here in England) so will attempt to grasp anything possible in this guild. I love space and know quite a bit about it - at my level at least.
Anyway, I'm in to have fun and learn things, so regail me!
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:06 pm
poweroutage VorpalNeko: don't you think that learning how to live in space is also of importance to humankind? ... Other than politics, don't you think that we need to eventually learn how to live in space? Or do you think this is on the whole a fruitless effort. The question I perceive as more relevant is whether human exploration of space, past LEO especially, made sense to do so back then by any measure besides politics. If political considerations are removed (which may very well be important, for such considerations as popular support, etc.), then ventures such as Apollo become rather pointless. Much more scientific work with much less resources were accomplished by the Soviet probes, all without human intervention. It's not the exploration of space that I have a problem with, but the inefficient manner in which it was carried out. For example, I think the ISS gives essentially worthless returns in proportion to the amount of resources it sucks in. poweroutage I think there may yet be some scientific advantages from space exploration. For example, say we learn how to survive in space for relatively long periods of time (artificial gravity, plants, whatnot) then we can potentially train professionals such as engineers and scientists to live there, who can then make instruments for scientific exloration in space instead of worrying about having to take them through the atmosphere. Perhaps one can make a case along these lines... if so, the Russian efforts along these lines (e.g., Mir) were much more important than American ones (e.g., Apollo 11).
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:55 pm
VorpalNeko It's not the exploration of space that I have a problem with, but the inefficient manner in which it was carried out. For example, I think the ISS gives essentially worthless returns in proportion to the amount of resources it sucks in. This is kind of my argument for taxes (whenever I'm debating for them). VorpalNeko Perhaps one can make a case along these lines... if so, the Russian efforts along these lines (e.g., Mir) were much more important than American ones (e.g., Apollo 11). I can see how that is the case, and I can agree. Certainly Bush campaigned to expand the American Space Exploration agenda for all the wrong reasons, although I'm optimistic that eventually the output will increase in proportion to the input. Russian scientists pushed the Sputnik idea on Krushchev highlighting the important political advantage he would gain from having their country be the first to launch a satellite in space, but I beleive that Korolev (the man in charge of Sputnik) knew that great scientific advances would come with it (and I believe he wished to make such advances) and used politics simply as a method for propulsion. I think that politics may be the carrier (an effective carrier at that, few projects have political support except those that hurt others) but that the ultimate goal is advancement for science. I can see a whole other thesis coming out of this, but had it not been for political interest, much less would have been done in terms of space exploration. We might have waited longer for a whole photograph of the Earth, or satellite tv and communication, or even the VanAllen belts, and we would know much less than we do now about our solar system.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:39 am
Hey, I'm Textbook Enigmatic, and I'm in 4th year at secondary school, as the call it in England. I've been studying extra Physics [well, extra at my level] so I'm pretty advanced for my class, but nothing on anyone here.
I prefer learning about Astrophysics and Cosmology, which are the areas in which I do Extra Physics in.
I hope to continue studying Physics and Maths [which I'm alright at] untill University Level, and maybe a Doctorate at Physics. If I'm good enough.
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:01 pm
Hi, I'm Cindy-unfortunately just a high school student, though I've had some experience with physics in the past, and have thoroughly enjoyed it! ^^
I have a friend who is a total genius, and has told me continually how much he loved his AP Advanced Physics Class, so I decided to learn more about it. It's also extremely fascinating to me to be able to calculate so many real-life applications!
I'm going to be a sophomore, and I'm taking AP Calculus next year, so hopefully that will help me in physics as well. umm....I also enjoy Biology, and occasionally a bit of star-gazing.
umm...overall, my best subjects are English/reading, Math, and Latin. As much as I like science, I'm unfortunately not terribly good at it. Eventually, I'm considering going into medicine, or biomedical engineering, but I'm still completely unsure sweatdrop
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