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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:09 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:15 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:25 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:35 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:38 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:41 pm
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Cheremy LeBeau Disney want to expand to the Japanese market, and who can blame them? Disney anime will probably end up becoming popular across Asia, so their profits are sure to soar. They've pretty much left it to the Japanese to produce high quality anime and slap their logo on it. CG or not, they aim to do a good job. I really don't see why people believe CG requires less skill or effort than drawing either.
I'd like to have a stronger opinion on the decline in the quality of Disney's animated films, but over the course of the 2000's I've become too old to watch them. The Incredibles (which was co-produced with Pixar) was the last animated Disney film I saw at the cinema; I thought the animation was great and the jokes were quite funny, and I could certainly see its appeal to children. Since then, Ratatouille came out and won an Oscar (I didn't see it, but I assume it must have been a good film), Cars got great reviews, and Enchanted, which features some animated elements, was highly acclaimed too. From that, I can only assume Disney are still making great films. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.
Disney are simply moving with the times. Why shouldn't the world's biggest producer of animated kid's films move on to the next generation of technology? Someone has to. Sure, pre-1995 we enjoyed a cerain style of animation, but now it's time to adopt a brand new style. Cartoons were once black and white, now they're being made on computers. To be honest, I'm leaving it to the current generation of kids to decide what makes a good kid's film. It's certainly not that CG takes less effort than drawing, it's just that these days many American movie companies are doing everything in CG without thinking about the alternative, seemingly with the assumption that CG itself makes even the most plotless drivel entertaining. So in that respect, it's easy to see why a lot of CG is considered lazy - not because of the animation, but because of the lack of plot.
Well, the distinction here is that Disney actually produces some CG films, and others it just slaps its label on. The Incredibles, Ratatouille, and Cars were all actually created by Pixar, but released in partnership with Disney. Disney's CG films themselves, like "Meet the Robinsons," are just not very good. So in this respect, if the anime are actually made by Japanese companies, I suppose they could be just as good as any current anime.
Enchanted used mostly traditional animation, which I think is actually a very good argument for Disney to take a step back into that style, because yeah it was cool.
Of course kids will ultimately decide the fate of all animation ventures, since they are the primary market. But that doesn't mean that the rest of our opinions aren't valid, and I for one think it would be a shame to lose classic Disney just for the sake of riding the wave of popularity.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:44 am
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:47 am
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Hanajima Arashi It's certainly not that CG takes less effort than drawing, it's just that these days many American movie companies are doing everything in CG without thinking about the alternative, seemingly with the assumption that CG itself makes even the most plotless drivel entertaining. So in that respect, it's easy to see why a lot of CG is considered lazy - not because of the animation, but because of the lack of plot. Well, the distinction here is that Disney actually produces some CG films, and others it just slaps its label on. The Incredibles, Ratatouille, and Cars were all actually created by Pixar, but released in partnership with Disney. Disney's CG films themselves, like "Meet the Robinsons," are just not very good. So in this respect, if the anime are actually made by Japanese companies, I suppose they could be just as good as any current anime. Enchanted used mostly traditional animation, which I think is actually a very good argument for Disney to take a step back into that style, because yeah it was cool. Of course kids will ultimately decide the fate of all animation ventures, since they are the primary market. But that doesn't mean that the rest of our opinions aren't valid, and I for one think it would be a shame to lose classic Disney just for the sake of riding the wave of popularity. You're completely generalising CG films. Not all CG films have bad plots, the same as not all hand drawn films have good plots. Would you be knocking the films less if they were hand drawn? Plot and animation style are worlds apart, so I don't think you can contribute that argument to the effort put into CG. I reckon you should blame bad plots on the writers.
Again, you can't take credit from Disney based on who they work with. I agree entirely that Pixar is a better animation studio, but they've been a subsidiary of Disney since 2006, so there's litterally no distinction. It's like discrediting Ralph Lauren or Topshop because they hire designers, that's how business works. Oh, but I'll take your word for "Meet the Robinsons", because I've never even heard of it. Hehe.
Finally, as much as I agree that our opinions are important, I don't think we have the right to demand Disney remain in the animation stone age for the sake of prolonging our nostalgic childhood pleasure. "Classic" Disney is aptly named because it's an archaic form that current Disney will never return to. If Disney didn't attempt to raise their popularily, they'd eventually go out of business. They must cater for the broader market. If we don't fall into that sector, there are tons of other animated films for us to enjoy.
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