3x20 The Man Behind The Curtain

[Gr33n Gummy Bears]

the whole 'hostiles taking over the darma' thing kinda seems like now with the lost peeps. maybe this could've happened before.

arghh! that juliet woman stressed she goes and makes one friend and then everyones gonna hate her again. why'd she have to say to flip the tape over..its not like she'll be trusted just for that.  

[The First Seraphor]

pigs-fly

the whole 'hostiles taking over the darma' thing kinda seems like now with the lost peeps. maybe this could've happened before.

arghh! that juliet woman stressed she goes and makes one friend and then everyones gonna hate her again. why'd she have to say to flip the tape over..its not like she'll be trusted just for that.

She told Jack what Ben wanted her to do.
And playing the tape for everyone to hear doesn't mean that's still what she intends to do, it's merely showing everyone what Ben wants her to do.
I think that makes her pretty trustworthy, because she's turning her back on Ben and the others, and letting these guys know what the others are up to.

 

[Spiral Out]

wakusei

And was the gas incident maybe 16 years ago...? Was that the "illness" that killed Danielle's group off...?

The illness killed them over a period of time, the gas seemed pretty instant.

And here's Jacob.

 

[rawrjennamonster]

Spiral Out

wakusei

And was the gas incident maybe 16 years ago...? Was that the "illness" that killed Danielle's group off...?

The illness killed them over a period of time, the gas seemed pretty instant.

And here's Jacob.

How...Did you get that picture of Jacob? I did NOT see him at all, and we rewinded it. . . Confused!  

[Torina_V]

Ok, multi-theories here...


1. Perhaps we've underestimated the importance off the Black Rock. Maybe the Hostiles really are the decendants of it's crew? Or, with non-aging Richard, the real crew? They do go for the grubby pirate look. Also, it's almost confirmed that Ben was born in 1963. See here (warning: spoiler site)--> http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2007/05/ben-was-born-in-1963-plus-behind-scenes.html Thus, Richard being the same actor in the flashback could not have been some random accident...


2. Indeed, Jacob was on screen for like a nanosecond. But, is it me, or does the screencap of him look like Locke in a wig? Atleast, it really looks like a wig.  

[rawrjennamonster]

Dang! I didn't see him!!!  

[r u m - r e g g a e]

Jacob's voice scared me silly.
Seriously.
Ben's story was sad though.
cry

 

[alyhs]

I'm totally believing that Richard might be from the "blackrock". To me it just makes more sense. Though probably they won't even shed any light on the last episode and move to a different story line from another character like they always do.  

[Juan1588]

I can guarantee Locke is not dead. I dont know why i am so confident but i am  

[The First Seraphor]

Well the Island cured Locke's paralysis, could it also prolong human life too? Maybe just for some people, as Locke is appears to have been one of the few that it helped, as it certainly didn't help Ben.

Maybe Jacob is the one doing it. They all seem rather intimidated, no terrified, of him. Maybe they know of his powers?

 

[rawrjennamonster]

I'm extremely confident that Jacob is not dead and "brought back".  

[The First Seraphor]

tbs.hellogoodbye

I'm extremely confident that Jacob is not dead and "brought back".

Then why is he invisible, and 'living' in a rotting shack?
Why did Locke need to be/do something on a psychological/spiritual level in order to hear/see him?
Why would they be terrified of an invisible hermit?

 

[Spiral Out]

Seraphor

tbs.hellogoodbye

I'm extremely confident that Jacob is not dead and "brought back".

Then why is he invisible, and 'living' in a rotting shack?
Why did Locke need to be/do something on a psychological/spiritual level in order to hear/see him?
Why would they be terrified of an invisible hermit?

He's not invisible to everyone though. We know that he is real, because we heard him and saw him for a flash. So if Ben wasn't lying about him being real, why would Ben pretend to see him, knowing that Locke couldn't see him and wouldn't belive that he's there?

tbs.hellogoodbye

How...Did you get that picture of Jacob? I did NOT see him at all, and we rewinded it. . . Confused!

That picture was from Wikipedia, but I saw him for just a flash when I watched it on TV.

Black Rock is probably important if we keep going back to it.  

[Sakimi Nakamura]

OMG. That was so.... OMG!
Whats the deal with Jacob though?
Is he a ghost?
or..... er..... idk?




what ever happened to that annie girl?
Did Ben kill her too?


ha. now we know who roger is.



SPOILERS!





And oh.my.god.
I dont want locke to die.
I love him sooooooooooooooooo :[[
Ben..... what a b*****d.
he was a cute little boy though smile  

[The First Seraphor]

Spiral Out

Seraphor

tbs.hellogoodbye

I'm extremely confident that Jacob is not dead and "brought back".

Then why is he invisible, and 'living' in a rotting shack?
Why did Locke need to be/do something on a psychological/spiritual level in order to hear/see him?
Why would they be terrified of an invisible hermit?

He's not invisible to everyone though. We know that he is real, because we heard him and saw him for a flash. So if Ben wasn't lying about him being real, why would Ben pretend to see him, knowing that Locke couldn't see him and wouldn't belive that he's there?

tbs.hellogoodbye

How...Did you get that picture of Jacob? I did NOT see him at all, and we rewinded it. . . Confused!

That picture was from Wikipedia, but I saw him for just a flash when I watched it on TV.

Black Rock is probably important if we keep going back to it.

I don't know if you've noticed, but on the island 'real' does not mean 'alive'.
Jacob is real, he is not necessarily alive.