Are ALL goths depressed?

[Veruniel]

MortSanglant

Would you attribute that to the level of understanding that goths work to bring themselves to? Therefore allowing a better acceptance of what occurs around them?

No ammount of self-analysis can cure depression, any more than it can cure a broken leg. All it can do is teach a depressed person how to handle their condition and avoid the things that are most likely to send them into a slump.

Perhaps gothdom doesn't attract many depressives because they shy away from the morbid aspects that could make their condition worse.  

[The Dadalorian]

Veruniel

Chaos A.D.

dumb question..no they're not, we're gothic not emo....

I think there's a certain misunderstanding about what depression is, here.

Being Emo does not automatically mean you're depressed. Even if you show every negative Emo stereotype there is (whinging, writing bad poetry, claiming that you're totally miserable), it's not necessarily a sign of depression.

Most depressed people do not advertise the fact. They are ashamed of their condition and go to great lengths to hide it. If they 'cut' or otherwise damage themselves, they will put the scars in places that can be easily hidden. If they feel miserable, they will not talk about it except to their closest friends; the last thing they want is to cause a scene, because they don't feel they deserve any sympathy.

While not all goths are depressed, some most definitely are. You'll find the same percent of depressed people in practially every subculture. It's a physical disability and doesn't affect personal taste that much. Hell, I've known some seriously depressed scenesters and preppies in my time.

Personally? I am a depressed goth. I'm not ashamed to admit it, because long years of treatment have taught me that this problem is not willfull attention seeking and is not morally reprehensible. But you couldn't tell I have it if you met me. It's possible to be an optimistic person even if you have depression, because when the desease is not attacking you, you're as lucid and 'normal' as anyone else.

no but my point was that a lot of people call the goths i know emo, becuase of theri hair and clothes....they're not, they're the most happiest people i know, atleast they seem like it, it could bea cover up liek u said they do hide it, i do until i can't tak eanymore thne i go to at most....3 peopel about it. now do u understand what i'm saying?  

[GilAskan]

Veruniel

GilAskan

Would you attribute that to the level of understanding that goths work to bring themselves to? Therefore allowing a better acceptance of what occurs around them?

No ammount of self-analysis can cure depression, any more than it can cure a broken leg. All it can do is teach a depressed person how to handle their condition and avoid the things that are most likely to send them into a slump.

Perhaps gothdom doesn't attract many depressives because they shy away from the morbid aspects that could make their condition worse.

(You put the wrong person's name to the quote)  

[MortSanglant]

GilAskan

MortSanglant

GilAskan

Goths are rarely depressed, actually. Studies show that goths tend to be pretty happy compared to most people, in fact.

Would you attribute that to the level of understanding that goths work to bring themselves to? Therefore allowing a better acceptance of what occurs around them?

I do believe that is a major factor in it, yes. Though, I should make the distinction that it's not so much complacency like a cow accepting it's trip to the slaughterhouse, but an understanding in the functions of the world like an intricate clock and how one thing wll lead to another.

That's essentially what I meant.

And I do agree.

I was just curious as to whether we shared the same view on such.

3nodding

 

[Threl Kaar]

GilAskan

Goths are rarely depressed, actually. Studies show that goths tend to be pretty happy compared to most people, in fact.

I'd like to read that study...  

[GilAskan]

Threl Kaar

GilAskan

Goths are rarely depressed, actually. Studies show that goths tend to be pretty happy compared to most people, in fact.

I'd like to read that study...

This isn't the study itself, but a BBC report on the study.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4828230.stm

BBC Report on Sussex University Study

"Goths are simply art lovers, who aspire to middle-class values... Goths are likely to grow up to be doctors, lawyers or architects, the study by Sussex University says.

They are refined and sensitive, keen on poetry and books, not big on drugs or anti-social behaviour. They are also likely to carry on being goths into their adult life.

They have an ability to express their feelings and are believers in romance rather than one-night stands, it says. In fact, the only things dark about them are their clothing and their sarcastic sense of humour."

 

[deathcomes_onsilentwings]

GiherroStar_12

^ Title explains... ^

No, not at all goths are depressed. I was depressed before, but that was when I was emo, and had the depression that ran in my dads side of the family go down to me.  

[[Abby Normal]]

No there is a difference between goth and emo. Some goths are also emo... but just because you are goth doesnt automatically link you to being an emo. 3nodding  

[-Isel-]

GilAskan

Threl Kaar

GilAskan

Goths are rarely depressed, actually. Studies show that goths tend to be pretty happy compared to most people, in fact.

I'd like to read that study...

This isn't the study itself, but a BBC report on the study.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4828230.stm

BBC Report on Sussex University Study

"Goths are simply art lovers, who aspire to middle-class values... Goths are likely to grow up to be doctors, lawyers or architects, the study by Sussex University says.

They are refined and sensitive, keen on poetry and books, not big on drugs or anti-social behaviour. They are also likely to carry on being goths into their adult life.

They have an ability to express their feelings and are believers in romance rather than one-night stands, it says. In fact, the only things dark about them are their clothing and their sarcastic sense of humour."

None of the "goths" I know -don't- do drugs, and I'm quite anti-social myself.

One of the goths I knew (a first-wave goth from the 80's) grew up to work at Sharp Electronics and now is quite fond of hip-hop (to the point where we think she regrets being born white, as it's seeping into her daily life).

That study is... well, wrong.  

[GilAskan]

Isel

GilAskan

Threl Kaar

GilAskan

Goths are rarely depressed, actually. Studies show that goths tend to be pretty happy compared to most people, in fact.

I'd like to read that study...

This isn't the study itself, but a BBC report on the study.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4828230.stm

BBC Report on Sussex University Study

"Goths are simply art lovers, who aspire to middle-class values... Goths are likely to grow up to be doctors, lawyers or architects, the study by Sussex University says.

They are refined and sensitive, keen on poetry and books, not big on drugs or anti-social behaviour. They are also likely to carry on being goths into their adult life.

They have an ability to express their feelings and are believers in romance rather than one-night stands, it says. In fact, the only things dark about them are their clothing and their sarcastic sense of humour."

None of the "goths" I know -don't- do drugs, and I'm quite anti-social myself.

One of the goths I knew (a first-wave goth from the 80's) grew up to work at Sharp Electronics and now is quite fond of hip-hop (to the point where we think she regrets being born white, as it's seeping into her daily life).

That study is... well, wrong.

The study is based on a large number of people. Individuals will certainly vary from one side of the spectrum to another, as said a few times, but again, the results is based on a wide and large study.

I personally know several dozen goths and NONE of them do ANY drugs. Just because my singular experience conflicts with yours doesn't essentially mean that you're wrong, and likewise, your conflicts with the results in the study doesn't mean you're wrong either.  

[UraniumMonk]

Isel

GilAskan

Threl Kaar

GilAskan

Goths are rarely depressed, actually. Studies show that goths tend to be pretty happy compared to most people, in fact.

I'd like to read that study...

This isn't the study itself, but a BBC report on the study.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4828230.stm

BBC Report on Sussex University Study

"Goths are simply art lovers, who aspire to middle-class values... Goths are likely to grow up to be doctors, lawyers or architects, the study by Sussex University says.

They are refined and sensitive, keen on poetry and books, not big on drugs or anti-social behaviour. They are also likely to carry on being goths into their adult life.

They have an ability to express their feelings and are believers in romance rather than one-night stands, it says. In fact, the only things dark about them are their clothing and their sarcastic sense of humour."

None of the "goths" I know -don't- do drugs, and I'm quite anti-social myself.

One of the goths I knew (a first-wave goth from the 80's) grew up to work at Sharp Electronics and now is quite fond of hip-hop (to the point where we think she regrets being born white, as it's seeping into her daily life).

That study is... well, wrong.

I'd have to say that from my experience, the goths I know tend to at least be considerably more responsible in their drug use that, say, the punks or metalheads I know.  

[xxx Rice Cracker xxx]

Are you joking me?


We are gothic. Not emo, get your facts straight.


((Acually.. I know happy emo's.. o_o..))  

[Veruniel]

GilAskan

(You put the wrong person's name to the quote)

Oops. Sorry about that! Changing it now.