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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:36 am


Oh yes, since I didn't want this little bit to get lost in the wall I built last time, I have another factor to throw into this already explosive mixture.

What kind of armor would you wear? Seriously, who walks into an area with a bunch of people that bite, and not wear protection? It's only common sense after all.

I'm personally in favor of either chain-mail , or biker armor (which has kevlar, steel plates, and sometimes chain-mail). Heavy leather is probably the easiest to obtain however.... what would you wear?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:50 am


I'd wear what I could find.

But probably very thick clothes. xp

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:06 pm


Sharkmail and a gas mask of some sort. That would be optimal I think. If your uncle was conveniently a shark-diver, it would totally work. Only it'd be a bit heavy, seeing as it only feels light in water because, well, it's water.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:59 pm


Haz-mat suit and kevlar for the suit (and of course a gas mask, because you probably wouldn't need the helmet very often...and because gas masks are awesome). And for the weapon, a Spas-12 with plenty of ammunition.
THAT is how you make the anti-zombie suit of awesomeness.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:11 pm


Spas-12's are illegal though.

Or, at least they were, and I think they stopped producing them.

Bullshit, considering that a benneli M3, which can do the exact same thing, is legal.

But it's oh well.




I'm thinking about getting a gasmask or a hazard suit in the future though! blaugh
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:16 pm


******** laws, we have zombies! I will have a ******** Spas-12 in my zombie appocalypse!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:35 pm


lol razz
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:43 pm


By the time a zombie appocalypse happens (i.e. Never), I will have found a way to incorporate lag into real life, so that I can lag jump across cities.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:46 pm


Don't jinx it! If you say never, it may happen zomgsz!

And what if their rabies zombies? Or some other kind of virus?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:57 pm


Also impossible, as the first place that rabies paralyzes are the neck and jaw. Also, rabies doesn't make the infected bite people, it simply causes much irritation and pain via inflamation of the brain, when it gets there, and the nerves before that, which in animals leads the infected subject to think that anyone near them is harming them, which makes their instinct to bite in self-defence kick in.
A real life example of this instinct would be one of my dogs (now deceased) who had a problem with barking. We put a bark-collar on him with gave a little shock whenever he tried. One day my brother happened to be holding him when he tried to bark, and he instantly thought that my brother had hurt him, so he bit him and jumped of his lap.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:31 pm


Exactly. Lowered cognitive capabilities, "rabid" angry nature, slurred speech and constant slobbering, lowered nervous system and motor skills.

Sure, the jaw begins to become paralyzed, eventually. But most of the symptoms of the jaw and mouth are a result of excess salivation. They are also extremely thirsty all the time, meaning that their likely to try to chase you for fluids.

Their also prone to sudden aggression, violent movements, and various other actions. The majority of reasons people become infected, as well, are as a result of bites. If it was unlikely to spread through biting due to the tensing of the jaw, then dogs, rabbits, and bats wouldn't be the major causes of rabies, through biting. Which they are.




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As the disease progresses, more specific symptoms appear and may include insomnia, anxiety, confusion, slight or partial paralysis, excitation, hallucinations, agitation, hypersalivation (increase in saliva), difficulty swallowing, and hydrophobia (fear of water). Death usually occurs within days of the onset of these symptoms.

The rabies virus travels to the brain by following the peripheral nerves. The incubation period of the disease is usually a few months in humans, depending on the distance the virus must travel to reach the central nervous system.[2] Once the rabies virus reaches the central nervous system and symptoms begin to show, the infection is effectively untreatable and usually fatal within days.

Early-stage symptoms of rabies are malaise, headache and fever, progressing to acute pain, violent movements, uncontrolled excitement, depression, and hydrophobia.[1] Finally, the patient may experience periods of mania and lethargy, eventually leading to coma. The primary cause of death is usually respiratory insufficiency.


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Three stages of rabies are recognized in dogs and other animals. The first stage is a one- to three-day period characterized by behavioral changes and is known as the prodromal stage. The second stage is the excitative stage, which lasts three to four days. It is this stage that is often known as furious rabies for the tendency of the affected dog to be hyperreactive to external stimuli and bite at anything near. The third stage is the paralytic stage and is caused by damage to motor neurons. Incoordination is seen owing to rear limb paralysis and drooling and difficulty swallowing is caused by paralysis of facial and throat muscles. Death is usually caused by respiratory arrest





Theoretically, if one were to say, infect rabbits with rabies, then they could culture the virus to their will. They would infect like, 100 rabbits with rabies, and then see which one has the longest "excitative stage", or furious stage. Usually it's around three to four days, so a person would be looking for something more like 5 or 6. You would then take that rabbit's blood or saliva, or basically an extract of their particular virus, and then you would spread it to 100 more rabbits, or like 50. You would then take the longest furious stage "strain" from that rabbit, and so on and so forth, until it mutated into a say, a month long furious stage, or maybe even a few months.

What would be great is to take the longest lasting strain over-all, so that the individual would show symptoms for as long as six months or possibly a year. Even when their not in the furious stage, their still very likely to cause damage, very "zombie like", and very contagious. It would also benefit the creator to have a long time to spread the virus, as in to get a bunch of "sleepers" or carriers infected, before there was a major outbreak, so that there would be one mass zombie revolt, with a constant new spread of zombies. Rather than several isolated incidents, possibly mass incidents, but isolated incidents that would reduce the effects of widespread pandemonium and chaos.

As well, something like the Flu isn't very difficult to deal with. But if, say, 100 million people got the flu all at once, our medical centers would be overstocked, and many of our doctors would be sick. There wouldn't be enough people to care of all the sick, and with all the sick everywhere, possibly the entire country would shut down for a while; or even the world. This kind of mass damage is something that people are not prepared to deal with, and if a highly contagious disease spread rampant, even if it was a minor one (such as a cold), without proper medical treatment, millions could die.

Let's just assume that we could prevent all of it. Currently, around .4% of all people who come down with the flu end up dieing. Not a whole lot, and it's mostly prone to very young children and old people. Even at these statistics, if say, even, a million people were infected, then roughly 40,000 people would die. Small statistics, in normal diseases, can result in mass causalities if enough people are infected.

So, if we exclude easy (or any) access to vaccinations, many of the medical personnel in charge of taking care of people being sick as well, and large amounts of chaos and pandemonium causing problems all over the place, all at once, then the entire system could collapse. Something as simple as the flu could sky rocket to a 1 or even a 5% causality rate, which, if it infected say, 10% of all people, or 30 million people, you could expect enormous causality rates over the millions.

That many workers, parents, doctors, lawyers, and various other people dieing all at once would not only cause a massive destruction to the economy, but the entire social structure and fabrication as we know it. If we were to suddenly lose .5% of our entire population, the effects would be catastrophic.




So, if you were to release massive amounts of specially cultured rabies viruses, that were mutated and probably didn't have an easy cure, that were also highly contagious, then, you could easily cause a massive zombie outbreak.

And, they wouldn't be zombies in the traditional sense of "undead". It would be the "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck" syndrome.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:16 pm


Except without the whole flesh-eating thing, more like what I said, where they're in pain so when they feel the latest tinge of pain they lash out at anyone nearby because they think they were responsible.

No flesh eaters here. The only thing scary about this horde would be that they're sick and there's a lot of them. Even 28 Days Later wouldn't happen.

It says they're more aggressive, not more violent. Aggression can be shown in many ways, competativeness in a game or sport, being territorial, or even just rudeness. It doesn't have to be violence, let alone biting.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:29 pm


Well, a lack of cognitive function wouldn't necessarily result in competitiveness in sports.

And pain would only further aggravate them, causing them to cause more damage through their aggressive nature.

They are often violent and aggressive, though, and prone to biting.



As far as flesh eat is concerned, it doesn't really matter.

Getting infected is the big killer.

Brains don't have to be their motivation, as far as I'm aware. xp
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:19 pm


Still, there's a cure for rabies. And it doesn't take effect immediately, so you can easily get to a place that can faccinate you. And what are the odds that one of your rabies-zombies is going to chase you down just to bite you?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:38 pm


Ask a rabid dog that. Or any rabid animal for that matter.

Most of the problem is getting caught in a large group of angry, aggressive, or violent zombies.



And, if you mutated it correctly, (as I've been suggesting) you couldn't cure it. Or, you would have to develop a new cure.

Again, you would want to have a mass spread of the virus, as to disallow common infrastructure to function properly, by sudden mass infection.
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