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 Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:40 am
Saverio C. TurtIe Tracks I used to not know who I wanted to win. I'm a little iffy on both... I'm strongly pro-choice, but that's just one issue. Then Palin entered the picture. Governor for two years of Alaska. Huh. I dunno, I was nervous about her, but I didn't hate her. Well, now I absolutely want Obama to win. The reason is, now I have seen Palin in action and I didn't like the action at all. Liking someone as a candidate just because of their personality is idiotic. You have to take in other things, such as whether or not they will cause our country to fall apart. That's kind of important too! Just a little, I know. I don't get it, we need a person who knows how to fix a country domestically. Palin is great for that! Her two years as a governor were great and are equivalent to Obama's years in the senate. She isn't on a mission like McCain, Obama, or Biden, and know how to run an executive office. She may be right minded, but she will attack anyone who she thinks needs to be attacked. As a Washington outsider she doesn't have any of the pals Obama, McCain, or Biden have. Just because she speaks differently then us she is Idiotic? I don't see this idiocy in her record at all. All I see is a very competent and hard working executive who fights corruption and excess. "washington outsider" Haha. Seriously, you could have made a drinking game out of the VP debates. Every time she says "maverick" (regardless of the fact that all of her opinions are the exact same opinions ANY other right wing lunatic espouses) you just take a shot. Maybe be the end you'd be in the state of mind to handle such a terrifying thought as her being in any position of power. I guess I can break down for you, Saverio, the reasons I think Palin would make a terrible vice-president, and I'll attempt to be objective (a feat for me, at times). 1. She is anti-woman and anti-poor. She actually proposes that rape VICTIMS pay for their own rape kits! In other words someone who could not afford to pay for a rape kit, can not afford to have the man who raped her pursued and punished. If that isn't enough: 2. She wants to see an ABOLITION of abortion, even safe, first-term abortions, even in cases of rape! So, if you area young, poor woman who is raped, you are forced to carry to term a baby that will at every moment remind you of the HORROR you had to suffer. 3. She has been a part of a an initiative to have books removed from a library because of CONTENT. I wonder if amongst those books were the Ray Bradbury classic? 4. On more than one occasion, she has made some pretty inaccurate and outrageous statements regarding history, current laws, the state of the country, et cetera. As someone living below the poverty line, I do NOT want to see political officials who are dumber than I am. If it is not her intelligence that brought her to her place it is privilege. Do we really want an anti-woman, pro-censorship, privileged WASP c**t to be president if sorry Old Man McCain has a heart-attack, or maybe his polio flares up? I know that as a vice president, her powers are very limited, but simply looking at these things, these unforgivably wrongheaded stances on important issues such as censorship and woman's rights, do you think it's still reasonable to say that she's a good choice?
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:07 pm
Book banning, the list isn't true! if the list of books she wanted banned is ture then she can see into the ******** future and that makes this a no contest. The Vice President and the President for that matter ENFORCE laws. They don't make them. She doesn't have any pull as she isn't even a state legislator! Yeah in case of a 50-50 (or less if Senators aren't around but whatever) split she can vote for something, but that almost never happens, and not an on abortion issue with the Senate and the House split like they are. She is not for abortion, and that's her moral belief. Yeah I disagree, but as a rational and open minded person I understand that people disagree. She has a right to think that it's murder and as such it should be stopped. Again she is only half assed (more like 1/10 of an a**) involved in Legislation so this is a moot point. I know she is a good choice because she has kicked a** on the city level and the state level. She adapted to each challenge, and this time she is only the Presidents busy body (Vp's don't really do anything at all). Like seriously what does a VP do. NOTHING.
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:03 pm
idk if u know or if this was a long time ago but obama won whooh biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:05 pm
ohhh i see it was a long time ago srry
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:01 pm
Yeah...and so far I still think he's failing. But he's still doing better than our dipshit governor. So Yak Orama's not a total fail...but what happened to those campaign promises? A little hard to keep, were they?
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:24 pm
Thaliat Everwood Yeah...and so far I still think he's failing. But he's still doing better than our dipshit governor. So Yak Orama's not a total fail...but what happened to those campaign promises? A little hard to keep, were they? He's a month in, do you really expect him to do EVERYTHING he promised a month in? I think that's kind of ridiculous standards for ANYBODY. If he's like 6 months in and he hasn't done anything he promised or even started that stuff then I'll give it to you. But I think giving him crap just because he hasn't done everything a month in is ridiculous.
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:39 pm
LOL. You forget, I'm a Republican. It's my duty to give him crap. mrgreen Who knows, maybe I foresee the future!
Seriously, I honestly don't expect much of anything from him, I mean he inherited crap for the next four years. It doesn't give him a whole hell of a lot to work with. I just enjoy ragging on him for making such lofty promises.
He may have won, but I still don't trust him. I mean, he is a politician!
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:39 pm
I don't understand the reasoning of "I'm Republican, he's a Democrat so I HAVE to give him crap" or vice versa. Seriously, maybe his promises were lofty, yes he inherited crap and he probably won't be able to do everything he promised. I don't see why its necessary to rag on him just because. Nothing against you Thaliat, but I find it irritating for people to give a prez crap, or pick on him just because he's there and just because they can.
Take Bush for instance, I didn't like him or the choices he made but I didn't rag on him just because he was president and republican. I ragged on him because of the choices he made and the mistakes he made and his inability to admit that he made them. If you can attack Obama for ACTUAL reasons, then I'll consider the point valid and give you credit for it but to attack him just because seems pointless to me.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:31 pm
It may be pointless to you, but it is still fun for me! This is one of the joys of being American, we don't have to like our leaders, and we can poke fun at them to make them more tolerable.
As for the Bush reference, since you made it, whole boat loads of people were ragging on him because they disagreed with him. A lot of them didn't even live within our borders. So it is a bit of a weak argument to say it isn't right to rag on the current Prez because I don't like him or his choices because he's a Democrat. I won't get started on why I don't like Democrats because the list is long, but he's one of them and he's in the prime ragging spotlight. Besides, saying I don't like him because he's a Democrat is a good way for me to sum up the many reasons I don't like him/the majority of Democrats.
And you not ragging on Bush was your choice.
I have no reason to like Yak Orama, so I may as well have fun ragging on him. It isn't necessary, but it is fun and it makes his regime more bearable. People rag on politicians that they don't like all the time. It's part of this thing called freedom of speech. Political cartoonist make a living off of it!
Heck, it's not like I'm picking on some blind, crippled kid with a bad case of acne. I'm picking on a rich politician who doesn't care what I think of him because he already got the big seat in the oval office. Which is good, because I think he's rather pompous and his ego needs deflating...and I'd love to be the on to pop that ego balloon, if only I could find a pin big enough! mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:24 am
I think what is ridiculous about Obama right now isn't so much that he hasn't fulfilled his campaign promises, but rather that he is already taking actions that work against some of them. For example, he was one that ran on the policy of "bring the troops home" and people voted for him so that he could end the war. What he has done so far is send more troops to Afghanistan, and plans to send more in the coming months. How is this "bringing them home"?
Additionally, some people that voted for him are completely ignoring the fact that he's doing it because they're still patting themselves on the back for "making history" by voting for the first black president. Somewhat recently I even saw someone point out how Obama was already bombing other countries and someone defended him with this response, "Well, you republicans didn't think there was anything wrong when Bush did it, so why Obama?".... not realizing that same argument could be turned back around at them gonk
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:36 pm
Just goes to prove the current prez is still just another politician! Can't trust any of them, regardless of which side they run for....the higher up the office, the less I trust the politician.
Yeah, I saw an article about that in the paper the other day and had a double take. I got have a "hah, I was right about your candidate" moment in the lunch room. It was pretty sweet.
This is why we only give them 4 to 8 years in office. If they mess up, we can try again to get another suit in to clean up the mess.
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:57 pm
Yay! Obama won and I am super happy!
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:49 pm
I don't follow news so I didn't know he was sending more troops. Hearing that makes me very very disappointed. I'm still hoping he does good, what can I say I'm an optimist.
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:14 am
I just want him to shut up and give me my damn $400 dollars already. Grr...Thal wants new tires for her car.
As long as Yak Orama doesn't make the recession worse or sleep with any interns, I figure that will be good enough. I won't start any movements for impeachment, lol.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:22 am
obama, durrr? he had already won.
hes sooo much better than mccain.
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