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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:13 pm
I just meant that she was a lot more timid before she came back. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:53 pm
I liked this episode a lot, actually. I mean, it tended to all my wonders, and had lots of Charlie. It even had some good Sawyer moments, and Boone moments to laugh about. xD
And me and all my friends are really sad about Steve... I mean. Something else. Anyway. That guy. He rocked.
Cheers.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:12 pm
You know, I was thinking about the episode...
Why did Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, AND Kate ALL go?
I mean, I can see most of them. But shouldn't one of them have stayed behind to take over if all the others are killed? I mean, those are pretty much all our leaders, regardless of whether WE like them.
Jack is pretty much the declared leader. He probably should have stayed back, because lots of people already sees him as the leader. If he dies, we're talking major moral issues if he dies. I mean, anyone dies and there will be a moral drop. But if your 'leader' dies, it's major. Locke should have known that...
Locke is the only one who has managed to bring any boar back, so he probably should have stayed. Because of his mighty hunter status, that also makes him a candidate for leader, should Jack die.
Sayid probably could get everyone to follow him if Jack died, because he's fairly nice, even if he can be a bit condescending sometimes.
Kate shouldn't have been there at all, she was only there because she did what she always does and pops in from the corner of the screen, all, "I'm going with you!"
Sawyer would probably be in charge if it wasn't for those four, because lets face it, we would all defer to the man with all the stuff absent another leader. Even though he doesn't REALLY seem to have that much.
So... WHY WERE THEY ALL THERE? I mean, shouldn't ONE of them have stayed behind? Are our Lostaways THAT stupid?!
Also, why didn't they have someone with Charlie? I mean, anyone? Even just following him and being annoying? Because let us think about this. We already know that Ethan will kill people. We know that he's threatened Charlie once already. We are going to try to TRICK this dangerous person into thinking we'd just let him have Claire. What would have happened if Ethan had figured it out? He'd have killed someone else. And if I was Charlie, I wouldn't have told them he said he would kill me last. Because why repeat it if you don't have to? You just have to tell them there's a threat.
And since Charlie might not be in the best mental condition to take care of himself and stay out of danger's way. Which... is pretty much what happened. So why was there no one there with him?
Kate? You so could have been doing that and ACTUALLY being helpful instead of being your normal annoying self.
Or Jack. Because damnit, Jack, you're the fricking leader, like it or not. And you're the ONLY doctor.
Locke? Stop obsessing over Boyfriend Boone. Because dude, Charlie still needs your help. Yeah, still. Kicking drugs was just a part of it. Charlie was on drugs as a result of his personality. You have to fix that, or he's just going to keep performing the same sorts of behaviors. He can't get back on drugs because there aren't really any on the island. But he can continue to engage in the behaviors that led him to drugs in the first place.
See, it could have been Sawyer, Sayid, Kate, and two redshirts. That leaves Captain Hero Doctor Jack and Great White Hunter Locke, who could have watched Emotionally Scarred Ex-Rock God Charlie. And you would have likely captured Ethan. Not that he would have told you anything.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:48 pm
TheTsunuffy Why did Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, AND Kate ALL go? I mean, I can see most of them. But shouldn't one of them have stayed behind to take over if all the others are killed? I mean, those are pretty much all our leaders, regardless of whether WE like them. See, I was wondering about that, too, but for different reasons. I was thinking that maybe Ethan was just ******** around with them, waited until Jack, Locke, Sayid, Sawyer, Claire, and Kate had left, then was going to slaughter everyone else in camp. ...it seems like that's a possibility that they should have thought about...
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:03 pm
Tyo TheTsunuffy Why did Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, AND Kate ALL go? I mean, I can see most of them. But shouldn't one of them have stayed behind to take over if all the others are killed? I mean, those are pretty much all our leaders, regardless of whether WE like them. See, I was wondering about that, too, but for different reasons. I was thinking that maybe Ethan was just ******** around with them, waited until Jack, Locke, Sayid, Sawyer, Claire, and Kate had left, then was going to slaughter everyone else in camp. ...it seems like that's a possibility that they should have thought about... Maybe they thought, "Oh, well, we left Boone to protect the less important Lostaways." Though I can't say why they didn't stop and go... "Wait, we left BOONE to protect them?!"
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:01 pm
Well, I guess if all else failed Walt could call on Poley to eat Ethan. Of course, Poley would likely turn on the rest of them to leave Vincent free for marriage, but I'm thinking that, even though they love each other, their marriage might be a little rocky.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:46 pm
aleria-chan I liked this episode a lot, actually. I mean, it tended to all my wonders, and had lots of Charlie. It even had some good Sawyer moments, and Boone moments to laugh about. xD
And me and all my friends are really sad about Steve... I mean. Something else. Anyway. That guy. He rocked.
Cheers. Mwahaha, I agree. Was very much pleased with this episode. And as for leaving Charlie alone, stupid, yes, but also necessary for the plot. Ethan wasn't going to survive much longer. Things can't end that fast, and it's much more satisfying for Charlie to pull the trigger.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:34 am
Canis-chan aleria-chan I liked this episode a lot, actually. I mean, it tended to all my wonders, and had lots of Charlie. It even had some good Sawyer moments, and Boone moments to laugh about. xD
And me and all my friends are really sad about Steve... I mean. Something else. Anyway. That guy. He rocked.
Cheers. Mwahaha, I agree. Was very much pleased with this episode. And as for leaving Charlie alone, stupid, yes, but also necessary for the plot. Ethan wasn't going to survive much longer. Things can't end that fast, and it's much more satisfying for Charlie to pull the trigger. Yeah, the nice guy kills someone. Liked the moral ambiguity there.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:06 am
TheTsunuffy You know, I was thinking about the episode... Why did Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, AND Kate ALL go? I agree with pretty much everything you said. And I mean, there's 46 castaways people. Why they even had the guns, I don't know. I think the guns caused more trouble anyway. Locke said that they were nothing more than scared idiots with big sticks, but seriously, if you got about 10 random people to follow with Jack's plan into the jungle with Claire, I think it would have been really hard for Ethan to get away. And we know he wants Claire alive anyway, so he woudn't kill her or the baby! I really hate how J.J. is treating this as though there are only 14 people on this whole island. Just use the redshirts, it would be way more interesting if you had other castaways involved rather than just the popular 14.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:38 am
great goddess arkaina TheTsunuffy You know, I was thinking about the episode... Why did Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Sayid, AND Kate ALL go? I agree with pretty much everything you said. And I mean, there's 46 castaways people. Why they even had the guns, I don't know. I think the guns caused more trouble anyway. Locke said that they were nothing more than scared idiots with big sticks, but seriously, if you got about 10 random people to follow with Jack's plan into the jungle with Claire, I think it would have been really hard for Ethan to get away. And we know he wants Claire alive anyway, so he woudn't kill her or the baby! I really hate how J.J. is treating this as though there are only 14 people on this whole island. Just use the redshirts, it would be way more interesting if you had other castaways involved rather than just the popular 14. But then they might have to give them SAG cards! OMG Scandalous! I agree. We know OF all those other castaways, but it really just seems like there are only fourteen. The others just mill around occasionally. They do nothing helpful, really. I mean, I think the biggest example of this was Boyfriend Boone as night sentry. I say, WHAT? Seriously, he should have been a day sentry, at least at first. So unless next episode, Boone is doing the guilt thing about Scott's death, there was no reason for it. The next biggest example? Anytime something happens. Everybody else is just STANDING AROUND. I mean, really, no one is even screaming? They're just staring at whatever is happening. It's like they're all one person in more than one body. And if you don't think Ethan is alone, or worse, if you don't KNOW if he's alone or not, that's a better reason to take more people. What if he had shown up with like, twenty people? What would you have done then, Captain Hero Doctor? Just given them Claire? Shot them all?
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:49 am
great goddess arkaina I really hate how J.J. is treating this as though there are only 14 people on this whole island. Just use the redshirts, it would be way more interesting if you had other castaways involved rather than just the popular 14. I think it's because the main characters are in the thick of things and don't want to get the other survivors into immediate danger every two days. Plus, if you think about it, Jin is treated like one of the other castaways rather than a main one.
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:00 pm
Im so out of the loop....I missed the last ep.....I have no idea whats going on, can someone fill me in? sad
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:53 pm
Sieardah Im so out of the loop....I missed the last ep.....I have no idea whats going on, can someone fill me in? sad ...Well, all that really happened was that Jack FINALLY took the guns out of the suitcase. And then he gave one to Sawyer, and some bullets. Also, Charlie killed Ethan, and was the victim of a fairly predictable backstory. Sorry, Charlie! Oh, and~! Claire remember peanut butter. Ah, yes, and Boone sucked some more, and he found Vincent while doing so.
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:56 pm
MeriThranduiliell movie_fanatic ninja I think he was already there since he doesnt seem normal.. but the dude knew what was oging to happen and he still sent her.. and I mean neways lol ninja Okay, fixed the spoilers. sweatdrop ninja You're right- he doesn't seem normal. He's crazy, I think. But who could he be? Would all of Danielle's party have been french, since he doesn't have an accent? Or is he from another shipwreck? I bet he just snuck on the plane, though, and has only been there that long. Maybe he's following one of the main characters?
And the psychic! He KNEW he was going to send Claire possibly to her death! ... but then again, maybe he knew she'd survive, and be able to raise the child on the island? I'm beginning to think more and more that the island isn't completely real... ninja I think he was one of the orginal crew that landed on the island with the one girl that Sayid met... maybe? sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:38 pm
I will post nothing more until the episode airs tonight. And hour and twenty minutes pour moi!
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