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 Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:23 am
Red Gypsy Rennie` Red Gypsy Rennie` Whoa, that's quite exciting, another tomb!! Since 1989 there seems to be new tombs popping up everywhere! Two things that have got to me though. Firstly the site says that Hatshepsut is the most famous Queen to rule Egypt ... I'll have to object to that. I thought Cleopatra was the most famous confused Secondly it said that the tomb could be the biggest find since Tutankhamun, so does this tomb contain statues and other things like Tutankhamun's tomb or is it just the fact that Hatshepsut's mummy has been missing since Egyptology became the thing. I know she was such a character (being corrinated as Pharaoh, banishing her step-son/nethew to Syria) so if that's the case I understand. I can't wait to hear more whee Definatly. Hatshesput had it hard going because she was a woman. She had to lie about her birth (saying that her father was Amun, not Tuthmosis I) just to be accepted as a Pharaoh. Her monuments are amasing, especially the temple by the Valley of the Kings and Queens, I haven't known Cleopatra to do anything. Ow, and Cleopatra was Greek, Hatshesput was 100% Egyptian. also hatshepsut wore the beard as a symbol of her manly power and authority. Cleopatra was still femanine, and had julius ceaser at her side, while Hatshepsut was a ruler in her own right. its interesting that they belive it to be her, and you'd think her tomb would be more luxurious. about the finding of nefertiti, Zahi Hawass dosent belive the mummy to be Nefertiti, while Joan ( the women who claimed to of found her) thinks it is.. its always hard to get a straight answer right away, especially when the evidence is not what we expected, like finding the remains somewhere else which makes it harder to really determine who it is.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:23 pm
crimson lotus also hatshepsut wore the beard as a symbol of her manly power and authority. Cleopatra was still femanine, and had julius ceaser at her side, while Hatshepsut was a ruler in her own right. its interesting that they belive it to be her, and you'd think her tomb would be more luxurious. about the finding of nefertiti, Zahi Hawass dosent belive the mummy to be Nefertiti, while Joan ( the women who claimed to of found her) thinks it is.. its always hard to get a straight answer right away, especially when the evidence is not what we expected, like finding the remains somewhere else which makes it harder to really determine who it is. The tomb they found her in may not necessarily be her original tomb. She might have been moved around, for protection from her successor's supporters, or tomb robbers, or a combination of both. 3nodding I remember that whole thing about Nefertiti. If I also remember correctly, Joan published a book entitled "The Search for Nefertiti" which wound up to be an autobiography about the archaeologist and speculated a lot about Nefertiti's era, and didn't say anything new about the mummy itself. The Egyptology magazine I subscribe to reviewed it, and pretty much ripped it apart, chewed it up, and spat it out. I'm guessing it was a horrible book, and didn't last long, because I can't find it in the bookstore to read for myself. I suppose there will always be things we can't solve about ancient Egypt. But we can do our best to find out as much as possible. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:14 pm
Iron Katar In case anyone is wondering, the special is airing in the states THIS SUNDAY on the Discovery channel at 9:00pm E/P! I highly suggest you check it out biggrin Ooh. Im looking forward to that. so exciting!
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:58 pm
Wow, apparently, Hatshepsut suffered from a number of illnesses (arthritis, osteoporosis, maybe even diabetes). As well as a gum infection. surprised
I'm surprised, because you always think of these people as strong and healthy.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:22 am
Dark_Lady_Jade Wow, apparently, Hatshepsut suffered from a number of illnesses (arthritis, osteoporosis, maybe even diabetes). As well as a gum infection. surprised I'm surprised, because you always think of these people as strong and healthy. They only want to be portrayed as healthy and fit. Alot of insectious children today have alot of health conditions, it would have probably been the same in Egypt. Even pregnant women were drawn with only a slight bump.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:54 pm
Rennie` Dark_Lady_Jade Wow, apparently, Hatshepsut suffered from a number of illnesses (arthritis, osteoporosis, maybe even diabetes). As well as a gum infection. surprised I'm surprised, because you always think of these people as strong and healthy. They only want to be portrayed as healthy and fit. Alot of insectious children today have alot of health conditions, it would have probably been the same in Egypt. Even pregnant women were drawn with only a slight bump. Digging the new look, Rennie. (Haha! Get it? "Digging" and Egyptology?! rofl *gets smacked* Okay, I'll stop with the bad puns. emo ) Interestingly enough, the Egyptians always made sure that they were portrayed in the best light while everyone else (especially their enemies) looked pretty puny. Even some of their trade partners were drawn differently. I saw a picture of a wall carving of the Queen of Punt coming to Egypt on a trade venture, and it looks like she had elephantiasis. The ancient Egyptians wanted to look better than everyone else. Talk about egoism. wink
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:44 pm
I missed the one yesterday, but I'm watching Secrets of Egypt's Lost Queen on the science channel now.
They've narrowed it down to Hatshepsut was in KV-60 as either an unidentified mummy (called the Strong One) or in her nanny's coffin. The body inside the nanny's was too small; there was a good twenty inches of room left at the feet and a proper coffin would not have that.
There was a small box next to the two mummies also. It had her liver, intestines, and a small piece of bone that turned out to be a tooth. They're using that and I believe it was bone marrow from her father and grandmother to compare the two possible Hatshepsut mummies.
When the show is over, I'll come back if they found out which one was her.
Edit;; It turned out to be the "Strong one." The tooth was the key. Both mummies had teeth missing, which made it difficult. But, it was like a puzzle. The tooth was a molar with a root missing. The mummy had a molar missing, however, had a single root of it still intact. That was the key. The rest of the tooth fit perfectly.
Funny how it can be a small as a tooth that determines who the lost queen was.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:53 pm
I saw the special only because I was flipping channels. I caught most of it except for the beginning... Still, I was all *OMG SHE HAS BEEN FOUND!* once they concluded the program. I am so glad she has finally been discovered after all of these millenia!
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:30 am
Yes I think it is also very cool that they found her. I sort of studied her in school last year.
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:50 am
karategurl1010 Yes I think it is also very cool that they found her. I sort of studied her in school last year. How ironic xd
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