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 Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:40 pm
I agree thank you I thank that to your an Awsome persons.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:48 pm
Morbid, eccentric comics, I reckon.
(Don't forget 'I Feel Sick'!) heart
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:15 am
I think they're considered what ever Jhonen wants them to be.
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:10 am
GilAskan Are they of the gothic horror genre?No. Are they for goths?In my opinion? No. Jhonen Vasquez HATES goths, and has said so in multiple interviews. Check out his "Anne Gwish" comic and you'll see. So, no, I don't think they're for goths, though, I don't think he'd care who bought them: he'd still get the money. Then who are they for?Most of his comics appeal to teenagers, mostly high-schoolers. While they're certainly more sophisticated than your typical comics, they're nowhere near the level of "Sandman" or "Watchman" or other such "adult" comics.
[Yes, because when something is "Adult" it's better. Don't be so elitist rolleyes ]
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:37 pm
Ah, Jthm, Filler Bunny, etc etc <333 All hilarious little works of art.
I don't believe in comic books having a stereotype.
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:58 pm
[Rosetta Stoned] GilAskan Are they of the gothic horror genre?No. Are they for goths?In my opinion? No. Jhonen Vasquez HATES goths, and has said so in multiple interviews. Check out his "Anne Gwish" comic and you'll see. So, no, I don't think they're for goths, though, I don't think he'd care who bought them: he'd still get the money. Then who are they for?Most of his comics appeal to teenagers, mostly high-schoolers. While they're certainly more sophisticated than your typical comics, they're nowhere near the level of "Sandman" or "Watchman" or other such "adult" comics.
[Yes, because when something is "Adult" it's better. Don't be so elitist rolleyes ]First, I put "adult" in quotes because I too find it elitest. Had I actually thought it, I wouldn't have singled it out by quoting it. As for Jhonen Vasquez's opinion on goths, it's a hard thing to nail down. It is true that he's referred to his work as parody in some interviews, but in others, he has insulted the goth culture in all seriousness.
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:58 pm
It is a great comic, its dark and twisted but putting a certain names to it is to the will of the creator...
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:45 am
death will come by wings It is a great comic, its dark and twisted but putting a certain names to it is to the will of the creator... gotta agree with you munchie...
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:40 am
I'm a Pepper, He's a Pepper, She's a Pepper...GilAskan In my opinion? No. Jhonen Vasquez HATES goths, and has said so in multiple interviews. Check out his "Anne Gwish" comic and you'll see. I bleieve "Anne Gwish" falls under the 'mallgoth' category...right? She does seem to have a certian "Gothier Than Thou" attitude...
I hope I didn't read that wrong or take it out of context...
Personally, I love just about anything from Jhonen I've seen... Never really thought about what kind of comic it was. confused sweatdrop ...wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:46 am
I love reading Jthm...so sad and funny. Is it a goth comic? I think so.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:06 am
GilAskan [Rosetta Stoned] GilAskan Are they of the gothic horror genre?No. Are they for goths?In my opinion? No. Jhonen Vasquez HATES goths, and has said so in multiple interviews. Check out his "Anne Gwish" comic and you'll see. So, no, I don't think they're for goths, though, I don't think he'd care who bought them: he'd still get the money. Then who are they for?Most of his comics appeal to teenagers, mostly high-schoolers. While they're certainly more sophisticated than your typical comics, they're nowhere near the level of "Sandman" or "Watchman" or other such "adult" comics.
[Yes, because when something is "Adult" it's better. Don't be so elitist rolleyes ]First, I put "adult" in quotes because I too find it elitest. Had I actually thought it, I wouldn't have singled it out by quoting it. As for Jhonen Vasquez's opinion on goths, it's a hard thing to nail down. It is true that he's referred to his work as parody in some interviews, but in others, he has insulted the goth culture in all seriousness.
[Really? Maybe he's just had some bad experiences, I've met some people that make me wanna puke that are "Goth"]
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:33 am
Personally, I find JTHM to be a bit overrated, considering there are probably (and are) a lot of other simply awesome horror-esque, noir, or psychologically unnerving indie comics out there. Johnny is just one of them. However, that's just my opinion. I don't think it was meant directly to be aimed at or purchased by Goths, nor is it at the Goth culture. Sooooo,
it isn't a "Goth" comic.* Infact, Jhonen mocks Goths and name-calling and all that throughout the first volume of Johnny to quite an extent.
Perhaps Jhonen's a closet Goth... too ashamed of how the Goth label has been mis-shaped and gotten out of control, that he silently denies his Goth-ness and swears to wreak and mock the Goth culture forever. Or maybe not. Internal conflict?
Also, that brings me to ask the question, (now that we're on the topic of JTHM) will there be a second volume of Johnny? I know Jhonen has hinted at it before, but does anyone have any news on it?
Regarding other gothic comics, Lenore is a joy for me to read. Its so cute and original.
I'm still waiting on that package from Dirge. ><
* I don't think comics can be tied to any kind of social label anyway. Comics are for everyone. They can be "Gothic", but they can't be "Goth".
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:47 pm
HELLA YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Johnen Vasquez comics are so Goth comics cause not ALL goths are like O i'm depressed so i'm not gonna read a comic thats funny....in fact the humor makes the book the dark humor I meAn
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:39 pm
I love Jhonen!! JTHM is awesome. I don't consider it goth at all. He hates goths.
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