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I'd gladly accept cool .
I don't have AIM though but MSN sweatdrop .

finally someone here who sees things my way

well, I played roy online and at least 2 stocked him every match, I went hard on him at first for the first 2 lives (he had 20% after I had killed him twice, dead serious) and then after that I just kinda slacked off and tried to see how many times in a row i could go from pika's fair to the throw, the most I got was 5. and for some reason he still thinks that he is good and z canceling and shield grab made no difference (cant shffl w/ keyboard, so yeah)

some noobs just never learn I suppose.

Didn't you forgot to mention that it was my first time playing it on the pc?
And that I had to use a keyboard since I don't have a controller of sorts wink .
I don't know if you noticed, but I didn't manege often to use my 3rd jump, why is that you think heh? neutral .
That you beat me is a fact, I'm not going to lie about it, I have no reason to do that, but you're gloating over the fact that you beaten someone who played it for the first time with not great working controlles.
But don't worry, I'll practice some more and I'll see if I can get a controller of sorts cool .

First you say you played with your contoller and then you say you played with your keyboard... make up your mind neutral .

Trying to convert the masses eh Felix?

Ask the mods to sticky this then.

EDIT: Change the name to something like "SSBM Discussion for elitists only"

I have nothing really to argue that, an opinion is an opinion, the only thing I can say about your arguement is that you are very quick to assume ALOT about people's motives.

I'll admit that 'Elitist' may be too much of a word to use, Felix created this thread for intelligent discussion of the game, and in fact, he did probably mean for the thread to be open to anyone willing to discuss it with an open mind.

But I wonder what kind of reception your arguement would meet at smashboards.com if you argued that there are backroom areas that only the smash elite are allowed to enter?

I mean, if a football coach wanted to talk tactics with someone, they aren't going to talk to some guy on the street about it, even if they love football.

And a guy like SephirothKen isn't going to sit there and talk with just anyone on smashboards.com, in fact, I only remember him posting in a thread about FC3.

Your arguement is valid though, and I applaud the fact that you have a strong opinion about what the mainstream want, it depends on how serious you are about the game, it is just a videogame, but then it's a game that earns Ken something like $100,000 a year (apparently) and it's a game that many people obviously take very seriously. (It's why I co-founded my SSBM guild)

Perhaps we should start a thread dedicated to those who would like to pursue a greater understanding of the game, and would like a kickstart into the tourney scene?

I think that's what I meant, changing the name of the thread to something that would stand out and attract people to start getting serious about SSBM in a "I love the game, but would like to get better" sense is what I primarily meant.

Lastly to move along...wavedashing.

Wavedashing is just another technique, a technique like shffl'ing, or teching.

It's not going to give you a major advantage, but it is necessary, especially when coupled with dash dancing and foxtrotting if you've ever watched Ken's matches.

Once you mastered all these abilities and skills, it all comes down to mindgames.