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Suicidesoldier#1
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:35 pm


Archer_Jack
I'm tempted to develop a gundam, permission to do so?


Yes.

I'd love it if more people started making semi-realistic weapons. blaugh


ninja

lol

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:06 am


... do you even know what a gundam is?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:05 pm


Well, yeah.

To be honest, the first time I read that I thought you wrote "Gun", rather than Gundamn; well, some weird kind of gun.

But yeah, you can design a Gundam all you want. 3nodding

Not saying we'll use it. xd
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:56 pm


Dumdum... Anyway it'll be AF only for ground and possibly space.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:01 pm


lol, of course.

Except likesz, don't gundams like, not fly though?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:39 pm


How about developing an explosive potato? For a military use for a potato gun. It'd be like a musket, only more awesome and explosive.

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Char-pun

Shadowy Rogue

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:52 pm


User ImageUser ImageGundans and Varitechs Fly.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:19 am


Via thrusters on the back, and vernier thrustels all around key points for maneuvering, variable fighters are good too being multi form systems.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:52 am


Archer_Jack
Via thrusters on the back, and vernier thrustels all around key points for maneuvering, variable fighters are good too being multi form systems.


Why not Transformers?

You could have a guy flying through the air, as a super awesome plane with a 30mm chain gun and like 4 cruise missiles, and then when he lands, he could turn into a Fighting Mech, with a 30mm chain gun and 4 cruise missiles- not to mention Hawt Hand to Hand combat tactics and stomping/crushing powersz.

And, if you gave it a few unorthodox, but rather lightweight weapons, say like an M240 or two (7.62mm x 51mm NATO tank/ifantry Guns) that are like 27.6 lb pounds a pop, and 55 lb for ammo, a lot for a person, but not a lot for a plane.

The few unorthodox weapons would allow for better anti-ifantry capabilities and whatnot- oh, and it would problably need some kind of sword, so it could just go around trashing stuff.

I think that a transformer would increase your versatility in application by a crap load compared to that of a Gundam.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:46 pm


thats what a veritech/ variable fighter is. this being a base example...

http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross2/va-1ss.htm

this is the VA-1SS Metal Siren, Its akin to an A-10 in that, it can destory just about anything, and an F-22 in that it can dogfight other VFs.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:47 pm


What would be the point though?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:05 pm


a multirole aircraft capable of A: Dogfighting, B: Supporting Infantry, And C: quick attack and controll on a macro scale ( as to not replace infantry or armor)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:26 pm


A large amount of planes already provide dog fighting abilities and most military planes provide infantry support capabilities- in fact, I believe that pure Air-on-air planes are obsolete, as all planes are multiple role units, like, Everything past the F-15 is a definite Multi-role Fighter-Bomber.




As far as landing all of the sudden and fighting someone, an AIRPLANE styled unit would be incapable of doing so. First of all, it carries around massive amounts of jet fuel, which would make it dangerous to operate on the ground with all the heavy semi-explosive jetfuel, especially if we expect it to take hits (being huge and fighting close range); and secondly, airplanes are designed not to take hits, as if they do take heavy hits in the air they pretty much dive bomb and crash anyways due to falters in aerodynamic components or the software, hardware, or engine failing. Even if you found a way to avoid those two problems, or ignored them, airplanes need gigantic runways to land and require gigantic runways to fly, meaning that it would be relatively difficult to have a vehicle that landed and turned into a multi-role ground combat unit.

Even if it did land, it would require both Jet fuel and electric power, to power it's flight and it's mechanical parts, and it would have to carry an enormous payload to be successful in both arenas. Not to mention your concept art has a head attached, which is completely useless, and makes a sword out of the nose of the plane. Also, in your concept art lots of very intricate and somewhat delicate mechanical parts are exposed, and the entire vehicle would probably be made out of aluminum, which isn't very good armor. It would also require the wings and other parts to be made hollow and be filled with mechanical parts for movement, which would place an enormous amount of stress on the aluminum wings, causing the bend or warp; and even if something like carbon fiber was used, it would still be to thin (and carbon fiber is only good in one direction; I.E. not good for a barrel rolling fast moving change in mid-air device).



If you were to actually make it, The best option would be to go with an electrically powered helicopter, as it could easily store it's mechanical parts (most helicopters have a crew bay for empty storage anyways) are already designed for Air-To-Ground combat, wouldn't have to worry about flimsy materials (doesn't require wings and is usually made with material to stop ground attacks) and has the ability to carry, both specifically anti-tank designed air to ground missiles and air-to-air missiles (AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, and Aim-9 Sidewinders).



Although, a plane/helicopter with wheels would be a much easier design...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:08 pm


Its not going to land as a plane, it initially LAUNCHES in Fighter Mode, But it can Land in GERWALK

( Acronym for Ground Effective Reinforcement of Winged Armament with Locomotive Knee-joint.

It refers to the mid-conversion mode of a variable fighter in which the aircraft partially transforms into the humanoid Battroid mode. In GERWALK mode, the variable fighter possesses some functions of a fighter jet aircraft and some functions of the humanoid battroid mode. Most often the GERWALK is used as a low-level air combat unit, similar to the traditional role of an attack helicopter. )

And it can also land in Battroid ( portmanteau of the words "Battle" and "Android" used to describe the humanoid robot configuration of a variable fighter ) and fight it out with largely its base line gunpod, however, it can also fly too.

anyway where can i get a fighter R&D sheet?

Archer_Jack


Char-pun

Shadowy Rogue

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:18 pm


BATTROID

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GERWALK

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FIGHTER MODE.

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