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Just because something is public doesn't mean the person chose to make it public. But really, why shouldn't they make it public and make a statement? It's something they believe in.


If Pop's peers alienate Pop just because they don't know what's in Pop's pants, then they would not have made good friends anyway.

I agree that sexist kiddies are really annoying and probably wouldn't make good friends, but I realize that isolation isn't fun. I think that Pop's sex won't be concealed by the time Pop goes to school though, as that would be too much of a hassle with going to the bathroom and everything. (Remember Pop was only 2 at the time of writing) And since Pop can choose to reveal Pop's sex at any time, if Pop does not want to reveal his/her sex while he/she is in school even in the face of annoying classmates, wouldn't that be saying something...?

*high fives for talking about the bathrooms*

xD After I posted I saw your post and I was like "Thank goodness I addressed that. cool )

Also, they live in Sweden, and like nobody lives in Sweden. : P Apparently Sweden is really chill about sexuality and whatnot, so hopefully the kids won't be too mean if Pop's sex is indeed still hidden while Pop is in school.

I still don't get it... The more you guys explain, the more I get lost...

The way I was taught, sex and gender were the same thing, with sexuality defining which side of the spectrum you associated with.

And I think being able to identify is kind of important...

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Isn't that the point of raising them in this manner? It should matter. How they identify themselves I thought was the whole point of raising them this way. How they identify, the method they use to pick a gender the feel rings most true with them would be important. I would like to know what influenced them, or how they influenced themselves, or anything related. For the sake of social science. I would think the answer to this question would be important.

What is in your pants does determine in a way, what you are. Not who you are. But we're talking about children here. What do they know or care of philosophical dilemmas, questions, pursuits, etc. The question will be asked, and how they choose to answer this question could impact their lives. Or be a marker of how they see themselves. The question does not ask only about sex, but about the child's gender. Whether the little 'uns know it or not.

I did not imply they would hide it forever, I even gave an estimate on when I thought things would be obvious. Definitely in high school because of puberty.

Also, don't take what I say to only apply to this family in Sweden, as I am picturing this type of child rearing in an United States of America setting.

Bathrooms are not all stalls. We use urinals and bidets too. Urinals are just so much more convenient than a stall. And they're less scary too. I would not deny a child with a p***s this privilege. Peeing into a toilet is not a good experience unless you're sitting down, but if you're a guy, that's not the best option for urinating.

According to sex, meaning, what genitalia they possess. I'll raise 'em like a boy, manly and strong, or like a girl, feminine, but able to protect herself from boys. Semi-traditional, modern American methods. I'm not against females wearing pants or boys wearing pink. Pink and black go well together. And shaving body hair goes well for either sex. The smooth feeling is just nice. Isn't it? It's hard to be hairy. I hear waxing is more effective. And after they've reached a good age, let the in-depth sexuality education begin. At that point, they would know how they were raised, how people view them, and armed with knowledge, they can make better decisions for themselves.

I presented sex change surgery as one of the methods people can choose to defy the expectations of society, in addition to those who already identify themselves as whatever gender they wish openly. Or as a way people can choose to fit/defy those expectations to their own liking. Not everyone with breasts has a v****a. Surprise! It's an option that is available to those who can afford and want it.

If there have been other studies, try and point them out/link us to them, they'd be good references.

No, the point is that it shouldn't matter, that's its no one's business, and that society should not shape who we are to the extreme that it does.

The question will only be asked because we have taught children that it matters. And that needs to change.

Matter of opinion. I think urinals are disgusting, and I am shocked that we use them at all.

Then that would make you sexist.

No, it's not nice to be hairless. Body hair is there for a reason. It helps us regulate our body temperature, and pubic hair actually keeps the v****a clean and lowers the chance of getting a vaginal infection.

How do you figure? It's free, natural, and good for your health to be hairy.

There have been others; I actually studied this a fair amount in college. I don't have much time tonight, but I'll see if I can dig any of them up online tomorrow.