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 Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:08 pm
Oirish Yeah they better open their eyes before they're slaves to the state. lol They won't open their eyes soon enough, I fear. gonk
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:46 pm
Yeah why should the state allow universal health care for its people? We need to continue to allow the people to get scammed so much money because they have an illness. Man that sure sounds great to me. If you go to Western European countries, they all have universal health care that works for the people. Japan also has a universal health care system. The Scandinavian countries are very socialist as well and they have higher standards of living than the US. The US should start taking some notes on how to run a country.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:44 pm
Scammed? Lets look at were the money goes.
First, the insurance companies make a 2% profit. Not exactly evil.
well if their profit is only 2%, were is all the money going?
second, the hospitals costs are what bring up the insurance rates.
well what brings ups the hospital costs to the point that people need insurance just for a check up, and what happened to when you could just pay a doctor visit out of pocket no problem?
1) defensive medicine. With tort reform we could solve this.
2) excessive regulation. Excessive government regulation is the number 1 factor in rising medical costs.
Seems Ironic that the government is the largest factor in the high cost increase, and to solve it they want more regulation and to crucify the insurance companies for their un-godly 2% profit.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:50 pm
You got it wrong because if you are not affluent in the US, you are screwed out of genuinely good health care. Believe me, I am in that situation. God forbidden that tomorrow I would contract a severe illness, I would not be able to afford the treatments because of this system. If I would be living in Spain or some other Western European country, it would be a different story because everyone is covered no matter what social class you originate from.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:18 pm
but that brings us back to the original point, why is the actual hospital cost so high? it went up from excessive regulation, de-regulating and tort reform are the best options,
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:47 pm
De-regulation will only give permission to the system to continue exploiting the common man.
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:53 pm
I already have health insurance and I looked at the numbers for how things are going to change and guess what. Not a thing is going to change for me, I still have the same deductibles and the same 30% that I have to pay for whatever. So if it is all a scam it's just going to continue. Oh and also my health insurance company is raising their rates to pay for the people who can't afford it but are being forced to have it now.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:10 pm
That is great that it is not going to affect you, but remember that you are not the only person in the country. Many people can't even afford health care!!!! THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!!
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:51 pm
James628 a Founder of the American socialist party, Norman Thomas, in the early 1900's said "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." Is this not exactly what is happening now? If America was really turning Socialist we would have a different health care system than the bill that was passed. If America was really socialist we would have unemployment checks that are much higher If America was really socialist we would have public property that was taken care of. Orish Yeah they better open their eyes before they're slaves to the state. lol the hell?Where did you hear that, Glenn Beck?
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:36 pm
Holy Rocker101 De-regulation will only give permission to the system to continue exploiting the common man. So basically go to the people that robbed you and asked them to put a new lock on your house.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:13 pm
James628 Holy Rocker101 De-regulation will only give permission to the system to continue exploiting the common man. So basically go to the people that robbed you and asked them to put a new lock on your house. Wait, the government robbed us? Silly me, I thought it was the huge corporations.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:15 pm
CrackBone Im clinging to my Guns and Religion, its what America was built on correct SECULARISM FTW! Oh wait...
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:31 pm
I did a cow James628 Holy Rocker101 De-regulation will only give permission to the system to continue exploiting the common man. So basically go to the people that robbed you and asked them to put a new lock on your house. Wait, the government robbed us? Silly me, I thought it was the huge corporations. Corporations did indeed rob us, but it was government that gave them the keys. Corporatism is a giant fail that leads to these economic disasters, but progressives cannot seem to distinguish between corporatism and capitalism so end up with the conclusion "It must be capitalism's fault, Government help us please!!!!!111!!!oneoneone!!!!111!!"
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:55 pm
James628 I did a cow James628 Holy Rocker101 De-regulation will only give permission to the system to continue exploiting the common man. So basically go to the people that robbed you and asked them to put a new lock on your house. Wait, the government robbed us? Silly me, I thought it was the huge corporations. Corporations did indeed rob us, but it was government that gave them the keys. Corporatism is a giant fail that leads to these economic disasters, but progressives cannot seem to distinguish between corporatism and capitalism so end up with the conclusion "It must be capitalism's fault, Government help us please!!!!!111!!!oneoneone!!!!111!!" But its the corporations that did it. Its the government that was lobbied. I'm not saying its capitalism's fault, but how is the government's fault for doing something that corporations (capitalists) lobbied for. This is why small business is the best.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:35 pm
I did a cow James628 I did a cow But its the corporations that did it. Its the government that was lobbied. I'm not saying its capitalism's fault, but how is the government's fault for doing something that corporations (capitalists) lobbied for. This is why small business is the best. Well its not very capitalistic to lobby for government help, just sayin. Government is not somehow acquitted of doing the most harm. you say you do not blame capitalism, but when you mention corporations you just happen to have (capitalists) along next to it. Well how can they be capitalists when they friggan lobby for MORE government regulations, which they get, knowing that their smaller competitors cannot afford to compete with the new regulations. In no way is that capitalism, that is corporatism which is enabled by the Government. now lets use a mathematical proof to finish my argument. Big Government and not capitalists are the driving force behind corporatism and the wave of epic fail that follows. Corporatism is government getting involved in the private sector, by definition. ∴Government is the problem, Q.E.D.
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