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 Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:38 pm
I really don't believe that someone created us with a purpose. Its all about cience we born, we live, we learn and we die and thats the way things happens . Its true that we're destroying our planet but sometimes that's our choice cause we watch so many things in television and we have enough education to build day by day a better world and we simply dont do anything!. Some people know that we have to act now but they still vote in stupid people like mr. George W bush! We have to start thinking about the future and think like smart people.
Doesn't work if you see people working for our existence and childrens of tomorrow when you dont put in praticee everything or something that you learn to save the planet! If god really exists why doens't he help us? He must like to see all of this pain... Because there are lots of inoccent people dieing at this moment and its sad! sometimes I'm ashamed of the world that we created, we are the most inteligent species on earth but in same time we are the most dummest!
xoxo 4laugh
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:56 pm
Migamii Some people know that we have to act now but they still vote in stupid people like mr. George W bush! We have to start thinking about the future and think like smart people.
If god really exists why doens't he help us? He must like to see all of this pain... Because there are lots of inoccent people dieing at this moment and its sad! sometimes I'm ashamed of the world that we created, we are the most inteligent species on earth but in same time we are the most dummest!
xoxo 4laugh Religion is an important topic to many people, and I would thank you to capitolize God. Thank you. Now, onto what I came to say.
It all depends which religion you are a part of to take the mind set of what 'The Higher Power' enjoys/dislikes/whatever. I say the 'Higher Power' because I know that Christians believe in the Holy Trinity [The Father, Son and Holy Spirit], the Jewish religion believes solely in God as the creator, and Muslim/the Islamic [please correct me if I am wrong!] believe in Ala as the Higher Power. The Jewish/Christian look on things are very close, but I am not so sure about the Islamic look on it.
George Bush is not an idiot. That also has nothing at all to do with this topic, so why even post that here? It makes no sence and takes away from your already poorly written message. [I spotted many mistakes in your post, I am sorry if I offended you, but it's true.] Please do not rip on people if you or your parents, or someone you know probably voted on him because then you are calling the American people idiots as well.
There is nothing that we need to do for the future, either. If you are refering to the alledged 'Global Warming' then please comment in my forum/topic called 'Global Warming...?' please because I really need a debate any way and I think we could have an intresting discussion about this.
Thank you.
~-Devichaz
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:17 pm
Musik von der Mond One question: if we evolved from monkeys or some idiotic fish, why do fish and monkeys still exist? Because the species we and they evolved from are extinct. The fish that exist today are pretty different from the ones that existed millennia ago. And as for monkeys, we didn't evolved from them; rather, humans and monkeys evolved from similar ape-like ancestors.
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:28 am
My thoughts on the whole Primate-to-Human thing is that its fully rational. It isn't hard at all to believe that sharks branched off of fish is it? So why is it so stinkin' difficult for many people to even let the thought that Homosapiens evolved from a primitive primate of some sort cross their minds? Technically, humans and gorillas have about 90% to 98% the same genetics. Look it up. It's true. (I just noticed that this subject came up a lot and wanted to explain my opinions.)
But about the whole "why are we here" thing: My personal belif is that a higher power created the world. (Not precisely God exactly but any higher being, such as Apollo, Jupiter, Thor, Ra, Buddha, Holy Spirit, Shiva ect. You get my point here.) But they wanted the world to be protected, so they created, over a large amount of time mind you, dinosaurs. The dinosaurs were, lets face it, kind of stupid. So...BOOM the meteor destroys them.
So then the higher power slowly created humans. Homosapiens were more intelligent, but the higher power messed up a little in our genetic make-up: It gave us free will. Now the human's job was to protect the enviroment, so they kind of did that for a while until there was too much population and they had to move around, a.k.a. the "nomad". They needed places to live, so they started to use the enviroment for shelter, but in a nice, respectful way. More and more time went by, soon the people were starting to stop the respect for the only thing that gave them food, water, and shelter, basically the only thing that gives them life.
So now, in today's world, our purpose is still to protect in the enviroment. But our stupid free will says, "Oh, well. When the enviroment dies out, you wont be here anymore! You'll be buried six feet under ground."
Not that I'm saying that free will is bad or anything like that. It's just that maybe we should have stronger instincts that scream at us all day...."Save the enviroment! Get off your lazy butt and help!"
So, in summary of this very long thought, people are meant to protect the world, it is the only one we have, we cannot live on any other planet because it would be either too hot or too cold. We won't save the planet because certain people are selfish and honestly don't care what happens to their children or grandchildren or even farther down the road.
If every person in America recycled all their plastic stuff, we would probably be able to stop manufacturing plastic goods. If every family in America replaced one lightbulb in their house to a lower energy bulb there would be enough extra energy for about another year or so. And that's just in America people! That's not counting Japan, or Great Britin, or Australia.
Why is it so hard for people to see this?
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:30 am
Why we're here... hm...
Well, how we were created or how we got here is - I believe - irrelevant to WHY we're here. Okay, we're here, whatever. Okay, we're destroying the planet - how about we do something about THAT instead of wondering HOW we came to be?
Why the human race is here... it's - in my opinion - different for each and every soul. We were not created identically, which means we were not all created for the same purpose. What we chose to do with life is our decision, and I believe living life to the best of my ability and meeting every challenge head on is - for now - my reason to live.
And God DOES try to help us. He gave us the ability to think, to reason, to love - and yet we fight wars, murder each other, hate each other, hurt each other - sometimes supposedly for HIS sake. No, that's not what he wanted at all. It's not what he wants at all, I don't think. If God is so powerful, so knowing, he wouldn't create us the way we are - wouldn't wire us the way we're wired - if he didn't think we could look past each other's faults and each other's differences and learn, if not to love each other, than at least to keep peace amongst ourselves.
Honestly, I think God is ashamed of us. The idea of religion shouldn't be covered in blood, the different races and beliefs and ethnics shouldn't be used as a weapon used to murder. He told us straight up with Moses and the Ten Commandments - "Thou Shalt Not Kill". Why do you think he told us this? Because killing is WRONG. Society is WRONG in pressing beliefs onto the next generation - "Oh, don't live here because it's full of blacks", or, "You can't go to that school because it's full of Jews.", or even the greatest, most disgusting one of all: "You're not allowed to be his friend, because he is not the same as us."
Hah - not the same as us? Genetically, we are 99.9 percent the same - what do you mean, he is not the same?!
We are here because we must all find our own calling. Surely, that calling is not murdering, stealing, destroying, or massacring (sp?) leagues and leagues of fellow human beings all for the sake of "Religion", "Freedom", or even the greatest, most absurd of all: "Democracy".
Every time I hear that, it makes a bitter laugh erupt from me, because then I realize that - yet again - that the human race is completely and utterly HOPELESS.
But then again, do I really believe that? Che... maybe I'M the one who's hopeless... hopelessly hopeful, at least.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:22 am
Human existence is clueless because in Religion, we are created by God, but in Science, they say we have evolved from apes... and I think we have a purpose in our existence. Our existence only depends on our choice or things that we do.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:38 pm
I have a question for you dudes. Since most of you believe in evolution. Where are all of our de-volved corpses? IOW bones. If man came from monkey, where is the thing inbetween? Evolution isn't true. Genetic Mutation is. But to think a human was just a monkey's genetic mutation is a bit much to believe. And before you question why we are all here, don't look at things now, go back to when they started. Ancient civilizations and such. We weren't polluting and destroying the planet then, just ourselves. We go to far back to actually remember where we even came from. I think the true question is, Where are we headed?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:21 pm
Actually, even if you don't believe in the creation theory of God creating the world and what not, we did not evolve from monkeys, chimps, or gorrillas. The theory of evolution is actually that those animals and humans had a common ancestor. Humans did not come directly from those animals.
"The world is too complex to not have been created by a higher power."
~Plato
If the world truly was created by a higher power as this quote from Plato suggests, why would this higher power create one without a purpose?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:38 pm
Duh i dont know.......?
I actualy belive God made us but thats my opoin i can see how poeple would belive the theory of Evoultion but there isnt enoughf proof.
We havent seen an aniamal evolve so we can not prove it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:13 pm
Well, we have actually seen evolution in animals, but some of the theories on how evolution started are really like pulling it out of thin air or reaching in the dark for an explaination.
Personally I am catholic and believe in God's creation of the world but I can't fully deny evolution either. Perhaps it was a bit of both.
Whether it is evolution or a higher power created us; we have a purpose.
In the theory of a higher power creating us I go back to the point that a higher power wouldn't create us without some kind of purpose.
In the theory of evolution we adapt and evolve to fit into a certain niche or 'role'.
Either way, we have a purpose.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:13 pm
Science versus Religion, hasn't it always been a battle between the two? Whether humans evolved from apes or (as those who said in the above posts) a higher power who brought us here. I'm not sure which to believe in honestly, all I know is that it's still being fought over today seeing as many people have different ideas on how we came to be. I would like to say that we are here, we have flesh, we have blood, we are breathing and we are alive.
Our purpose? I'm not exactly sure about that. I think that no one knows for sure what our existence is here for. It could be for destruction...but I don't entirely believe in that. Sure we are polluting and what not, but then again there are some people who try to clean the environment. (I'm not one of them)
Global Warming....yes it's being caused....yes it might be dangerous....In my opinion, it doesn't have to be others and I'm only giving a thought out, Global Warming doesn't seem that dangerous to me. It only seems that the Earth might be simply changing itself (Like the Ice age). We may be causing it, I agree, and most say it's bad and others (I have heard the other side) say it's good and can change the planet. All in all, things happen and new opinions come in everyday.
This is only my opinion. I can understand if anyone disagrees at since you have your very own opinion and different beliefs. Thank you though, if you read this seeing as it might be different from your own.
Dark
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:43 pm
My take on it, revisited: God, Jehovah, Allah; a higher power created us with a purpose. That purpose is yet to truly be figured out. I do believe that God used both evolution and creation. Although I can't fully discount evolution; I do not believe that humans evolved as people think they did.
Think: Why do organisms evolve? To adapt. If humans really *did* evolve from a life form that much lower (ape), even if they did branch off, wouldn't the lowest life form cease to exist because it eventually failed to adapt to changing environment?
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:14 am
Seltzer Cole I have a question for you dudes. Since most of you believe in evolution. Where are all of our de-volved corpses? IOW bones. If man came from monkey, where is the thing inbetween? Evolution isn't true. Genetic Mutation is. But to think a human was just a monkey's genetic mutation is a bit much to believe. And before you question why we are all here, don't look at things now, go back to when they started. Ancient civilizations and such. We weren't polluting and destroying the planet then, just ourselves. We go to far back to actually remember where we even came from. I think the true question is, Where are we headed? Man did not "come from monkey." That is not how evolution works. Modern monkeys evolved right alongside humans. And scientists have found many fossil remains of several species of Australopithecines and Homos that prove there were bipedal apes that came before us. The problem is that most biological remains do not fossilize, so they no longer exist. Conditions have to be just right for bones to fossilize, and for us to find them now requires a lot of luck and some good guesswork. Just because you don't know the facts and haven't seen the evidence of evolution does not mean that it is too much to believe for other people. To me, the idea that someone or something created this incredibly complex world and everything in it is too much to believe.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:20 am
SilentSong32 "The world is too complex to not have been created by a higher power." ~Plato If the world truly was created by a higher power as this quote from Plato suggests, why would this higher power create one without a purpose? Why wouldn't a higher power create a world with no purpose? If someone has the power to create a world, he can do whatever he wants for any reason, or for no reason.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:23 am
So you are suggesting that the higher power was just bored and just up and decided 'I think I'll make something today to give me something to do'?
If a higher power did indeed create us then it probably would have made it more complex than us being here 'just because'. Even if it was 'bored' then it would have likely added a purpose to make it even more interesting don't you think?
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