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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:42 am
when I have deja vou it is generally concerned with a specific event, being at a certain place I've not been before, and/or having a particular conversation with someone. not like the cat scene in the Matrix (where Neo sees a cat and sees it again just a moment later). in those cases, I dont think the theory above could really apply. this is why I hold to my theory of having dreamed the event in some forgotten, or never remembered dream I had.
I think once we've made a certain choice and followed down that path, unless something unforseen intercepts it, one comes to a particular end that cannot be changed. so perhaps whatever it is I dreamed was bound to happen due to some choice I made previously.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:20 pm
some things in life yes and some no.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:29 am
Calypsophia when I have deja vou it is generally concerned with a specific event, being at a certain place I've not been before, and/or having a particular conversation with someone. not like the cat scene in the Matrix (where Neo sees a cat and sees it again just a moment later). in those cases, I dont think the theory above could really apply. this is why I hold to my theory of having dreamed the event in some forgotten, or never remembered dream I had. I think once we've made a certain choice and followed down that path, unless something unforseen intercepts it, one comes to a particular end that cannot be changed. so perhaps whatever it is I dreamed was bound to happen due to some choice I made previously. While the dream theory is a valid one, leahcim22's theory also applies here. It's known as the Dual Processing (or Delayed Vision) Theory and is based on the way our brain processes new information. Because information enters the processing centers of the brain via more than one path, it is possible that occasionally that blending of information might not synchronize correctly. The temporal lobe of the brain's left hemisphere is responsible for sorting incoming information and it receives this incoming information twice with a slight (milliseconds-long) delay between transmissions: once directly and once again after its detour through the right hemisphere of the brain. If that second transmission is delayed slightly longer, then the brain might put the wrong timestamp on that bit of information and register it as a previous memory because it had already been processed. That could explain the sudden sense of familiarity. (These are not my words, I got them from howstuffworks.com) It's just a theory, though. Really, we have no way to know for sure why deja vu occurs.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:15 am
that theory about the delay, sounds to me to be a perfectly logical explaination.
And I could see that as a possible means of deja vu.
However, I am also under the belief that deja vu could be linked with psichic power. I believe that since we only use about 10% of our brain, who knows what the untapped portions are capable of? If could very well be that psichic power if on the edge of what portions we use, and thus deja vu occasionally occurs. And while many people fake it, I think some people have a certain degree of control. My mother has occurances from time to time where she can sense things. Like she has been known to think alot about a relative we may not have spoken to in awhile, and then we find out something has happened to them. As for my sister, she can somewhat dreamwalk. And me, well No control or anything but i do have alot of deja vu, including deja vu about having deja vu about something.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:49 pm
azrael the reaper that theory about the delay, sounds to me to be a perfectly logical explaination. And I could see that as a possible means of deja vu. However, I am also under the belief that deja vu could be linked with psichic power. I believe that since we only use about 10% of our brain, who knows what the untapped portions are capable of? If could very well be that psichic power if on the edge of what portions we use, and thus deja vu occasionally occurs. And while many people fake it, I think some people have a certain degree of control. My mother has occurances from time to time where she can sense things. Like she has been known to think alot about a relative we may not have spoken to in awhile, and then we find out something has happened to them. As for my sister, she can somewhat dreamwalk. And me, well No control or anything but i do have alot of deja vu, including deja vu about having deja vu about something. that would coincide with deja vou being a previous dream you had and not remembered. it would mean that you had a precognitive dream.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:02 pm
Calypsophia azrael the reaper that theory about the delay, sounds to me to be a perfectly logical explaination. And I could see that as a possible means of deja vu. However, I am also under the belief that deja vu could be linked with psichic power. I believe that since we only use about 10% of our brain, who knows what the untapped portions are capable of? If could very well be that psichic power if on the edge of what portions we use, and thus deja vu occasionally occurs. And while many people fake it, I think some people have a certain degree of control. My mother has occurances from time to time where she can sense things. Like she has been known to think alot about a relative we may not have spoken to in awhile, and then we find out something has happened to them. As for my sister, she can somewhat dreamwalk. And me, well No control or anything but i do have alot of deja vu, including deja vu about having deja vu about something. that would coincide with deja vou being a previous dream you had and not remembered. it would mean that you had a precognitive dream. It would also coincide with all the other theories about deja vu. No matter which one you believe is true, there is no absolute proof for any of them. Maybe it's best to just think of it as a really cool phenomenon that can sometimes be helpful for predicting what may happen in the future.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:06 pm
azrael the reaper And me, well No control or anything but i do have alot of deja vu, including deja vu about having deja vu about something. That sounds like it would give me a headache! lol
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:01 am
Kachan36 Calypsophia azrael the reaper that theory about the delay, sounds to me to be a perfectly logical explaination. And I could see that as a possible means of deja vu. However, I am also under the belief that deja vu could be linked with psichic power. I believe that since we only use about 10% of our brain, who knows what the untapped portions are capable of? If could very well be that psichic power if on the edge of what portions we use, and thus deja vu occasionally occurs. And while many people fake it, I think some people have a certain degree of control. My mother has occurances from time to time where she can sense things. Like she has been known to think alot about a relative we may not have spoken to in awhile, and then we find out something has happened to them. As for my sister, she can somewhat dreamwalk. And me, well No control or anything but i do have alot of deja vu, including deja vu about having deja vu about something. that would coincide with deja vou being a previous dream you had and not remembered. it would mean that you had a precognitive dream. It would also coincide with all the other theories about deja vu. No matter which one you believe is true, there is no absolute proof for any of them. Maybe it's best to just think of it as a really cool phenomenon that can sometimes be helpful for predicting what may happen in the future. heh, my problem is that when I have deja vou, it's just a feeling that I've been here/done this before without actually having remembered anything like 'I dreamed this last week!'. so it cant really be used for anything. now, sometimes... much more rarely, I'll have a dream that I remember about something... say, talking to someone I havent seen or heard from in a long time, and then within a month I'll run into that person, or they'll call or email.. but that's not the same thing.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:46 am
Calypsophia tricky_angel I believe that every action has a consequent reaction and that sends us down the paths we must walk. Kinda like deja vu or premonitions or just really good dreams, every now or then i find myself realising I've had one and think yep I'm meant to be here. That's how I accepted I was right to switch colleges. xp oh absolutely. life itself is a series of cause and affect. we walk down the road of life, and come to a crossroads where we can make a choice as to which path to take. once we've made that choice there is usually no turning back and must take it to its predetermined end which may or may not be what we expected. Yeah, it's causal determinism: every action has a reaction and so on a so forth. I firmly believe in that and, as a result, that true chaos can't exist. With regard to choices, they're all influenced by your past, your surroundings, different circumstances, etc., so technically we are not as "in control" as we'd like to think, but I don't believe that there is an exterior power (beyond circumstance) controlling our "destiny." Everything is destined only as far as it is what actually happened and we can't change that. As far as deja vu is concerned, I get them, and as much as they feel like moments I've already experienced, I believe in the scientific theories that they're just a matter of neurological (mis)firings. Wikipedia has a good entry on it that gives all the different scientific and non-scientific looks into it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:46 am
Lalou Rockstar Yeah, it's causal determinism: every action has a reaction and so on a so forth. I firmly believe in that and, as a result, that true chaos can't exist. With regard to choices, they're all influenced by your past, your surroundings, different circumstances, etc., so technically we are not as "in control" as we'd like to think, but I don't believe that there is an exterior power (beyond circumstance) controlling our "destiny." Everything is destined only as far as it is what actually happened and we can't change that. As far as deja vu is concerned, I get them, and as much as they feel like moments I've already experienced, I believe in the scientific theories that they're just a matter of neurological (mis)firings. Wikipedia has a good entry on it that gives all the different scientific and non-scientific looks into it. I'd never heard the phrase causal determinism before, but it is exactly what I've been trying to convey. Thanks for describing it so succinctly!
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:49 pm
i believe that the longer we live the less freedom we have because we have carved out a way for ourselves which carries us along, like a river carves out its channel.
yet i still believe we always retain some freedom of choice.
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:46 am
idont believe in the grim reaper but was it truly my destiny to open this thread
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:17 am
enciser idont believe in the grim reaper but was it truly my destiny to open this thread I dont think all the choices we make we are destined to be made. destiny is something that will inevitably happen. the only sure thing all humans are destined to do is die. that is inevitable, and unchangeable. maybe once you opened this thread, it was destined to get replies, but that's about as far as I'd take it.
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:04 pm
thats a bit of a toughy I must say, because several times I have experienced such a thing as intuition. so if I see something happen to me before it actually happens, then how can it be that fate is not infact predetermined? please do not answer. Its just some rambling thoughts.
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:18 pm
If life were predetermined, then wouldn't that mean we are unable to make our own dreams? Our own ideas, and our own thoughts? The grim reaper is just a symbol of death and new beginnings. Just believing in him doesn't exactly reprisent anything.
On the other hand, deja vu is another form of precognitive dreams, isn't it? We have experienced it before, usually when we least expect it, and then it happens, and nostalgia kicks in.
"He" is pleased with what I wrote... sweatdrop
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