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Everything I have to say has already been said. i miss the IDD subforum dearly, I was sad when you all got rid of it. At the time though I didn't think it my place to say anything and I regret it.

Oddly enough, I agree with Sav. I know the threads like the "Say something about the person above you" thread were the things that helped me to start talking in here. It's sort of how I got to know people. So, I think the games and RP subforum should be gotten rid of, hopefully to be turned back into the IDD.

I also agree with the mod redo, or something of the sort. I remember a lot of the mods used to be active, but they no longer are so there's very few of you actually working to get this place to run smoothly. Then again, as members we should be helping in ways we can.

Hm...by the way...many mods who don't post here alot do things like handling newcomers, planning events and cleaning stuff up...the works so to speak.
They're just lurking...not dead.
(Although there are some inactive ones...it's just not that everyone who doesn'T post in here is...)

Oh...and the regular member part of me says:
"I also miss the IDD subforum..." wink

Alright for everyone saying we need the IDD subforum back and the Games subforum destroyed:
I'd like you all to try and remember wayyyyy back because that's exactly how we had it set up in here before. Remember all the complaints from people saying that their IDD topic wasn't getting enough attention. Remember all the complaints from members who couldn't find any sort of discussion going on on the main page because of all the games. Go look in the game room and think about all those threads getting moved here in the main page. Think about how clogged it will look. Think about how difficult it is right now to have decent discussions then imagine trying to sort through page after page to find non-game topics.

Just try to remember the way it used to be and/or imagine what that would be like before making up your mind.

I think it could be disastrous to have all the games back here...one or two would be manageable...but, it's just not likely that it would stay that way.
As for the IDD subforum, if you guys really think we need it back, I'm sure that can be arranged. But, just be prepared for it to be very slow....very...very....very...slow after a couple weeks probably and for there to be even less serious discussion on the main page (another past complaint).

I see a lot of people talking about "inactive" mods. However, I really don't know of that many of us that are truly "inactive". Perhaps only 2-3...

A large amount of the Mods have been working behind the curtains because they didn't want to get in the way or be attacked for doing their jobs.

I do think we need a couple more Mods. I do believe that Mods need to be nominated by both members and moderators. Because all we Mods are suppose to be is guild members with the power to keep things in order. We aren't suppose to be "Big Brother" or "Prison Guards"...we are suppose to be your friends who help you keep the guild clean of junk.
However because of a lot of various situations our Mods have become one extreme or the other, which is what we are now fixing.

Aw man, my art thread is still active! A year strong too! Pout...well, if the marketplace goes, I hope I can ask for my thread to be moved so I can keep doing avis for guild members.

I disagree. This isn't the Any Game Guild...the point is for discussion.
I agree the games are good for icebreakers and it would be nice to have those on the main page instead of just relying on the Phunkeh thread. However, too many those games can quickly fill up the main page and block room for any kind of discussion. I remember quite clearly coming in here and only seeing threads with titles like "Letter Game" "Letter Game 2" "___ the avi above you" "___ ___ the avi above you" "__ __ the avi above you AND below you".
Also, the game room is not dead. As far as subforums go, from what I've seen, it's more active than most.

I think the Marketplace probably should be removed...I agree that it's the most inactive thing in this guild...Maybe we could turn it into a new IDD subforum and see how it goes.

And Sav, when we removed the IDD subforum the first time, not enough people came forward to protest it. We really are just trying to do what's best for the guild as a whole...we're not perfect and sometimes things that work for a little while, stop working...things change. One solution at one point in time may not be appropriate for another...

Maybe we could make some sort of compromise...like bringing out the most popular game thread "Say something about the avi above you" and use that as a second ice breaker...but, leave the rest of the not-as-popular games in the subforum. I mean, Phunkeh is an exception to the no chat threads...maybe the AAY thread could be our exception to the games rule in order to encourage more activity from our members...?