Mothanius
Suicidesoldier#1
The Japanese in WWII was fought only by the Marines and the Navy (yeah.)
The Vietnam war was fought with all branches.
The war of 1812 is a HORRIBLE example. The war of 1812 is what saw the development of what the Marines are today- Ground units deployed by the Navy.
As a matter of fact, the only reason we won the war of 1812 was because our Navy was SOOO good- by law we weren't allowed to have a ground force larger than 9000 units. So, we instead employed ground troops in our Navy. As a matter of fact, our Naval units would take muskets, load them with things like forks and knives and lots of little misshapen balls (like on dat pirate movie) and then would shoot this 'shotgun' blast at enemy ships, often times taking out several enemy units, like officers and whatnot, and we'd kill the British Navy.
You know how the British 'Navy' had ground troops? That was because of the MARINES. We exploited marines to a much fuller extent, and that's why we won the War of 1812.
Know your history.,
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The Vietnam war was fought with all branches.
The war of 1812 is a HORRIBLE example. The war of 1812 is what saw the development of what the Marines are today- Ground units deployed by the Navy.
As a matter of fact, the only reason we won the war of 1812 was because our Navy was SOOO good- by law we weren't allowed to have a ground force larger than 9000 units. So, we instead employed ground troops in our Navy. As a matter of fact, our Naval units would take muskets, load them with things like forks and knives and lots of little misshapen balls (like on dat pirate movie) and then would shoot this 'shotgun' blast at enemy ships, often times taking out several enemy units, like officers and whatnot, and we'd kill the British Navy.
You know how the British 'Navy' had ground troops? That was because of the MARINES. We exploited marines to a much fuller extent, and that's why we won the War of 1812.
Know your history.,
wink
Umm, really and truthfully we lost 1812. They burnt D.C. ... we burnt Toronto... British just didn't wanna bother with us. The U.S. was desperate to get out of the war after D.C. was lost. Pound for pound, the British defeated us in almost every aspect because it was only us vs. them. The only major battle we did win was after the ceasefire treaty was signed. Also whatever Navy we did have was comprised of Privateers. We were too poor to actually build our own, and before the war time began, we were more concentrated on domestic issues. 1812 caught us on a bad time. The U.S. has never wanted to settle on the fact that we lost however and consider it a draw.
EDIT: Also remember, in the later years of the war. Napoleon was defeated in Europe and Britain was able to send alot more troops to the States. Increasing the states desire to get out.
Also, Vietnam was started by the Army. The Army was the first division in.
The point I was trying to make was that we won every war where the Marines were the first to go in. Didn't mean to put it all in Japanese, you can blame that on my keyboard razz
EDIT 2: The naval muskets your speak of are called musketoons, a type of blunderbuss.
We won becuase they surrendered, not becuase of the massive amounts of causalities that were sustained. Secondly, we were weak NOT becuase we didn't have the money, but becuase Thomas Jefferson thought that a Standing Army was a threat to the Nation, so he abolished it and replaced it with a small militia. He kept the Navy though; but cut it's ship amount in half, almost exactly.
Secondly, it was not a Blunderbuss, or 'Thunder Cannon', it was a musket. We loaded it full of extra shot to make it more likely to hit people in close ranges- it did not have a fluted or rounded end of the barrel. It was designed to be accurate up to 100 yards, rather than be accurate up to only 75 like a normal musket. It was a niche innovation- it wasn't a new weapon, it was a new idea. The reason why it didn't take off in normal warfare is becuase the actual distance a musket ball can go is like 200-300 yards, way over what the 'shot' (lots of little balls) would. The idea is that when you get 50 people standing in a row firing 50 musket balls, it's LIKE a shotgun blast, just with a lot of people. Essentially it was unneeded, and considered to be barbaric so nobody that used muskets on a wide scale did it.
I'm currently taking college level history that is WAY over what normal people would take in college, and have had a class last year over this stuff as well, and I actually know a lot about guns from multiple sources. You don't have to take my word for it though; search it up mhmm! blaugh
