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spectrumsa2z

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:21 pm


Did anyone else notice that Richard didn't seem to age one bit from when Ben was younger to now? Does anyone have any thoughts or theories as to who or what the original others are? I'm extremely curious. smile
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:01 pm


That creeped me out. Richard looked the same when Ben was ten as he does when he is 50 something, meaning that ???? I don't know! It is so creepy!

Tickle Toe Bob


orgasmic_whatsit

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:41 am


my therory is that Richard is one of the original inhabitants and the healing properties of the Island act like a fountain of youth for him.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:35 pm


I noticed that as well and it bothered me for two reasons. One, the obvious creepiness of someone not aging. And two, why is Ben in charge of the Others and not Richard?

Scarlet Lace


spectrumsa2z

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:49 am


Yeah, that really confused me too. If Richard and the others helped Ben, why is Ben the leader? And why do they all seem to be okay with it.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:57 pm


I think Richard is the smoke monster. that would explain his lack of hostility towards the survivors, his apathy towards being the leader of the others (he's an all-powerful pillar of smoke, why would he want to lead a pack of muddy kidnappers?), and also his use of dark eye make-up. It might also explain why the others can get so much information on the survivors. I mean, as much as I'd like to think Mikhail can do ANYTHING, you can't find out about things like Sawyer killing a man before he got on the plane or confidential information about how many people Saiyd tourtured from the internet. Perhaps Richard helped out there. The smoke monster seems to be able to pick up memories from people and we know Richard has been off the island. Furthermore, Locke was rescued from the pit by 'Walt' after Richard was told by Ben that he 'had an accident'. Richard also seems to like to stir the others up, I think it was him who got the camp talking about the rumors that everyone who went down to the beach was dead and Locke's accident. The smoke monster has sort of played with the survivors from time to time, attacking then letting them escape like with the pilot, only killing the one guy, almost like it was doing it for kicks. Since the smoke monster seems to be able to take on the form of anyone, that might explain why he hasn't aged, or died for that matter, and also how he found little Ben when he ran away from home. It doesn't however, explain why the smoke monster attacked Julliet and Kate when they were tied together or why Juliet did not know it was Richard. (Unless he was trying to tip off Kate to Juliet's lie or just for entertainment. Plus, Juliet could have been lieing when she said she didn't know or Ben mightn't have told her.) Ben's supposed authority over Richard can be attributed to the fact that Ben thinks highly of himself and may often simply take Richard for granted, causing Richad to have reason to work against him so often (with Locke and so forth). I feel rather smart... did any of it make sense?

AttemptedPerfection


spectrumsa2z

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:03 pm


Wow. I really never thought of it that way. Richard the smoke monster? That really would explain how they know every single detail about every survivor. I'm a little iffy on why he would get his kicks from scaring the survivors, but maybe he is capable of doing that. The fact that Ben tells Richard that Locke had an accident and then "Walt" magically shows up is really convincing as well.

All in all, I really like your theory!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:16 pm


Wow, I really like that theory too! Pretty awesome!

Scarlet Lace


-PaleontologicalNonsense-

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:42 pm


I'd be wary if I were you...
I LOVE that theory! It's wAY better than the one I had 9.9
But thne (another question for another time, maybe) who or what created the smoke monster?? Was it Jacob?? Dharma?? 9__9 Blargh.

...Because you might be on the next page of my little black book...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:04 am


spectrumsa2z
Yeah, that really confused me too. If Richard and the others helped Ben, why is Ben the leader? And why do they all seem to be okay with it.
i dont think ben is the real leader

PyroBlade


Sonir Am

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:03 am


He is an older "other" for sure.Someone form the Blackrock maybe. The reason why he is not the leader is because either a) He is not a leader type or b) He has a quest from the islant to find a leader.

I really don't know why he is not as old as he should be. Let's just say "the islant did it!"
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:28 pm


I think that if Ben is the leader (Juliet told Jack that "It doesn't work that way.") it's because of Jacob.

Jacob becomes aware of Locke, and prefers him to Ben for obvious reasons, basically, Locke pwns and Ben is a douche-mobile.

Smoke monster is still a mystery to me.

I think Richard is much older... before Dharma (though we know this from Ben's flashback) and he looks young for a reason. I like the idea that he's from the Blackrock... but only time will tell :3nod

Spiral Out


AbraFilo

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:07 pm


I like the Richard being the smoke monster idea, now all we need to do is tie Jacob into this somewhere then we'd have all the answers.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:34 pm


spectrumsa2z
Did anyone else notice that Richard didn't seem to age one bit from when Ben was younger to now? Does anyone have any thoughts or theories as to who or what the original others are? I'm extremely curious. smile


YES! There has to be something to it!!!!! He doesn't age at all!

lametastic


Broken llPaperll Condoms

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:02 pm


Richard has always looked the same. Even before Ben was on the island. Richard is what the DI called the Hostiles. Or what the Oceanic 6 call the others. Either way he is one of the islands natives.
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