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 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:29 am
Hiya all
So who is your favourite ruler from the Ancient Egyptian times? I say ruler because keep in mind that there were three female rulers, lol.
Mine has to be Tuthmosis III (Menkhepperra). By looking at his statues he looks quite handsome. Also he was a great military fighter, thanks to his step-mother Hatshepsut lol.
I did used to love Rameses II because how vein he was astonished me. Especially when I went to visit Abu Simbel, a beautiful place!
So, what about you guys, is it Cleopatra, Ptonemy, Rameses, Ahmose ... ? And gimmi a reason! Tee hee
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:29 am
I like Ramses II because he made the Abu Simbel and lead Egypt to many victories in war!!!!
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:44 pm
Anknest Ra Horakhty I like Ramses II because he made the Abu Simbel and lead Egypt to many victories in war!!!! I'm still curious whether the Battle of Kadesh (picture on home page whee ) was a victory or not, lol.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:40 pm
Cleopatra. I'm a feminist (without the bra burning and man bashing) and she had a lot of feminist qualities. She spoke a ton of languages, was a great diplomat and knew how to get what she wanted. GIRL POWER!
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:44 pm
According to a documentary from Discovery Channel "Ramses: Wrath of God or Man?", though that battle was a win, it was followed by a peace treaty initiated by Ramses II, so at best it was a stalemate.
I voted for the Ramses successions because they are the few I have knowledge on, and I have great respect for them. I have plenty of knowledge on Akhenaten, but I refuse to acknowledge him as a nisut (pharoah) because of his heresy, making the people worship him and disregard the vast majority of the Gods and Goddesses, calling Them irrelevent and Thier priests useless, and he wouldn't even allow the people to worship Aten, the One Akhenaten said was the One true God because he (Akhenaten) was to be worshipped and he would (supposedly) take those prayers to Aten. And the nerve to consider himself Shu and Nefertiti to be Tefnut >.< And then ATTACKING the Temple of Amun!
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:06 pm
Rennie` I'm still curious whether the Battle of Kadesh (picture on home page whee ) was a victory or not, lol. Eh... it was mostly a defeat, although the king apparently impressed a few people on the way out. Here's what happened- we have extensive descriptions of the battle from tomb biographies, so we have quite a detailed knowledge of all the things that went wrong along the way. Ramses was en route to a campaign against the Hitites with four divisions of his army, named after four gods (identification of divisions by deity names was common in the Egyptian military). In this case, they were the Ra, Amun, Ptah, and Set divisions. Ramses was travelling either with the Ra division or the Amun division- I forget which, but these two divisions were travelling fairly close to one another. Along the way, the Egyptian army captured a couple of enemy scouts who- after interrogation- revealed the location of the enemy camp. Convinced that he could capture the enemy by surprise and eager for the glory of battle, Ramses decided to charge his troops- contrary to the advice of his generals. Unfortunately for Ramses, it turned out to be a trap- the captured scouts had in fact been plants! Ramses eventually realized this and sent his own messengers to hasten along the Ptah and Set divisions, but it was too late. The Egyptian forces took heavy casualties, many were routed, and Ramses was separated from his men in the thick of battle. This is where the famous battle prayer comes in- where Ramses appealed to his father Amun and was filled with the force of the god, unleashing terrible fury upon the enemy. The Ptah and Set divisions arrived in time to lend support to the king and he managed to escape with his life. They even pulled something of a stalemate out of that disastrous battle! A truce was accorded, but this loss of troops and morale put a stop to Ramses' glorious military campaigns- for some time, at least, while Egypt recovered. The enemy, however, continued to expand his domain to the south. It was definitely a loss, though it could have been worse. As it was, there were a few riots throughout Egyptian territory and the military was compromised for several years. Mention that battle the next time someone tells you that "the Egyptians never recorded a defeat," lol!
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:46 pm
Nebhepetra Montuhotep first ruler of the middle kingdom
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:44 pm
Cleopatra, definately. She just fascinates me. whee
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:25 am
Cleopatra ,, she was the perfect queen for egypt
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:27 am
great post Weben!!
My favourite is Sethi I...he begin to rise again Egypt.Hatti shake before him!
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:54 pm
Of course, my favorite time period is the Amarna period, my two favorite kings being Tut and Akhenaten.
3 reasons why Akhenaten:
A. He is a revolutionary and a rebel-bonus points in my book!
B. His life was beautifully tragic.
C. He is enigmatic, and that period still remains a mystery...also, he wasn't afraid to bring his ideas to fruition-he was a thinker AND a doer!
Herecy is fun, hoo-ray! XD
Ahem... sweatdrop Anywho...
3 reasons why Tut:
A. Teen king, w00t!
B. The poor kid had to clean up his father's (Akhenaten's) mess. XD
C. No one knows exactly how he died, or what he exactly did during his rule besides fight in two wars and restore the old Gods after the reign of his father.
Dude, I think in spite of everything, with the little evidence we have, Tut-to me-seemed to be a good and just ruler, and I believe that.
Both of them really got me into Ancient Egypt, and I almost didn't because of the Prince of Egypt movie: Ramesses II made me think when I was little that the Egyptians were all bad.
Now that I have done the research, this is obviously not the case, however, not to offend, but I still dislike Ramesses II. Also Amenhotep III.
I'll stop now. XD sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:46 pm
Got to be Akhenaten for me.
He was an innovator, the 'first individual', the realiser of a new focus on religion.
Plus, I'm an Atenist, so I would prefer him! biggrin
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:43 am
Atenakht Got to be Akhenaten for me. He was an innovator, the 'first individual', the realiser of a new focus on religion. Plus, I'm an Atenist, so I would prefer him! biggrin
eek Omfg, I love you....BRETHREN!!!!! whee We the few and far between... pirate
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:41 pm
My favorite is Hatshepsut! The whole coming off as a man thing.. genius.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:03 am
I have several, cehif among them being Tutankhamen, Cleopatra, Hatshepsut, and Rameses II.
I love Tut overall because he is on pharoh I know more about than others. He also had to learn how to be a king when he was a kid, and, of course, the mystery that surrounds his sudden death. (Has anyone else seen National Geographic's several page spread on him from 2005? It's delightful. )
Cleoptatra and Hatshepsut, for the reasons mentioned above. I'm a huge feminist, and I love stories of women who were known for great achievements, or ruling a country where men have been the rulers, with few rare exceptions.
Rameses had over 100 sons. That's a LOT of babies. He was also a good and wise ruler, and lived to be 66, which is fairly old for 3000+ years ago. Heck, it was still old 300 years ago.
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