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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:31 am


Abercrombie & Fitch CEO Explains Why He Hates Fat Chicks
SEAN LEVINSON
MAY 3

"Anyone who’s been to Abercrombie & Fitch in the last few years has probably noticed that they don’t carry XL or XXL sizes of women’s clothing because they don’t want overweight women wearing their brand.

According to this popular teen clothing retailer, fat chicks will just never be a part of the “in” crowd.

They take a big risk with this tactic because two of Abercrombie’s biggest competitors, H&M and American Eagle, both offer XXL sizes for men and women.

The largest women’s pants available at Abercrombie are a size 10, while H&M goes up to 16 and American Eagle goes even farther to 18.
Abercrombie’s attitude towards plus-sized women derives from CEO Mike Jeffries. Robin Lewis, author of The New Rules of Retail, spoke to Business Insider about the kind of people Jeffries wants advertising his brand.

“He doesn’t want larger people shopping in his store, he wants thin and beautiful people,” Lewis said. “He doesn’t want his core customers to see people who aren’t as hot as them wearing his clothing. People who wear his clothing should feel like they’re one of the ‘cool kids.’”

Lewis said that the only reason Abercrombie offers XL and XXL in men’s sizes is to appeal to large athletes.

In a 2006 interview with Salon, Jeffries confirmed that the communication between hot people is his primary marketing tactic.

“It’s almost everything. That’s why we hire good-looking people in our stores. Because good-looking people attract other good-looking people, and we want to market to cool, good-looking people. We don’t market to anyone other than that,” he said.

Jeffries also told Salon that he wasn’t bothered by excluding fat people. In fact, he said that not limiting his ideal demographic would make his clothing less desirable.

“In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids,” he told the site. “Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don’t belong [in our clothes], and they can’t belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely. Those companies that are in trouble are trying to target everybody: young, old, fat, skinny. But then you become totally vanilla. You don’t alienate anybody, but you don’t excite anybody, either,” he told Salon.

One might wonder why Mike Jeffries only wants to be in the company of good-looking people. That curiosity will end after seeing what this freak looks like.

After seeing a picture of Mike Jeffries, it can only be concluded that he was never around good-looking people as a kid and is now making up for the glamorous youth he wishes he had."
http://elitedaily.com/news/world/abercrombie-fitch-ceo-explains-why-he-hates-fat-chicks/
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:50 am


There's being exclusive, and then there's discriminatory.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:46 am


Here's another blog on the subject:

Abercrombie & Fitch Refuses To Make Clothes For Large Women
Ashley Lutz
May 3, 2013, 10:36 AM

"Teen retailer Abercrombie & Fitch doesn't stock XL or XXL sizes in women's clothing because they don't want overweight women wearing their brand.

They want the "cool kids," and they don't consider plus-sized women as being a part of that group.

Abercrombie is sticking to its guns of conventional beauty, even as that standard becomes outdated.

Contrast Abercrombie with H&M, another favorite with the teen set, who just subtly introduced a plus-sized model in its latest swimwear collection.

H&M has a plus-sized line. American Eagle, Abercrombie's biggest competitor, offers up to size XXL for men and women.

Abercrombie doesn't even list women's XL or XXL on its size chart. Its largest women's pants are a size 10, while H&M's standard line goes up to a size 16, and American Eagle offers up to 18.

It's not surprising that Abercrombie excludes plus-sized women considering the attitude of CEO Mike Jeffries, said Robin Lewis, co-author of The New Rules of Retail and CEO of newsletter The Robin Report.

"He doesn't want larger people shopping in his store, he wants thin and beautiful people," Lewis told Business Insider. "He doesn't want his core customers to see people who aren't as hot as them wearing his clothing.

People who wear his clothing should feel like they're one of the 'cool kids.'"

The only reason Abercrombie offers XL and XXL men's sizes is probably to appeal to beefy football players and wrestlers, Lewis said.

We asked the company why it doesn't offer larger sizes for women. A spokeswoman told us that Abercrombie wasn't available to provide a comment.

In a 2006 interview with Salon, Jeffries himself said that his business was built around sex appeal.

“It’s almost everything. That’s why we hire good-looking people in our stores. Because good-looking people attract other good-looking people, and we want to market to cool, good-looking people. We don’t market to anyone other than that,” Jeffries said.

Jeffries also told Salon that he wasn't bothered by excluding some customers.

“In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids,” he told the site. “Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don’t belong [in our clothes], and they can’t belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."

Jeffries said he thinks that including everyone would make his business boring.

"Those companies that are in trouble are trying to target everybody: young, old, fat, skinny. But then you become totally vanilla. You don’t alienate anybody, but you don’t excite anybody, either," he told Salon.

While a specialty retailer like Abercrombie can't be expected to appeal to everyone, the brand's standard of beauty is quickly becoming stale.

Plus-sized is no longer a niche market: 67 percent of the apparel purchasing population fit that label, and the number is growing all the time.

For too long, this sizable and growing segment has been ignored," writes Margaret Bogenrief at ACM Partners. "Treated shabbily, ostracized by the “pro-skinny fashion world,” and seemingly discarded by designers, department stores, and retailers alike, plus-size fashion consumers, critics, and bloggers are taking back their spending and sartorial power and, in turn, changing both the e-commerce and retailing landscapes."

Ignoring this "revolution" could be costly for businesses, Bogenrief writes.
More brands are featuring curvy, "real-sized," models.

In addition to H&M's Jennie Runk, Dove's wildly popular "Real Beauty" campaign highlights women who aren't as thin as traditional models.

But it's unlikely that Abercrombie will ever sway from its image, Lewis told us.

"Abercrombie is only interested in people with washboard stomachs who look like they're about to jump on a surfboard," Lewis said."
http://www.businessinsider.com/abercrombie-wants-thin-customers-2013-5#ixzz2SiitRzrN
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:10 am


I kind of understand some of what he's saying from a business perspective. If your clothes are for the "cool" kids, you can charge them more money for that "cool" label.

But you can be thin and uncool and buy his clothes, and what then? Excluding bigger people doesn't keep it as a "cool" people only brand. I was incredibly uncool in school, and I was always around average or below average weight. I could have easily worn his clothes. But I didn't. Largely because in my school the kids who wore that brand were huge jerks, and I didn't want to be like them.

And what if someone is fat and popular (*gasp*)?

Not to mention that even if his clothes were less "cool" and therefore less expensive, if he included more sizes, he could probably sell twice as many of them anyway.

So I don't see the point in only carrying small sizes in an effort to exclude "uncool" people. And I definitely don't see the point in being a jerk to people who are bigger than a small size. It almost makes me want to buy a bunch of A&F stuff from a thrift store (so that he doesn't profit off it) and wear it around with my ugly mug to lower his "cool" value.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:41 am


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I kind of understand some of what he's saying from a business perspective. If your clothes are for the "cool" kids, you can charge them more money for that "cool" label.

But you can be thin and uncool and buy his clothes, and what then? Excluding bigger people doesn't keep it as a "cool" people only brand. I was incredibly uncool in school, and I was always around average or below average weight. I could have easily worn his clothes. But I didn't. Largely because in my school the kids who wore that brand were huge jerks, and I didn't want to be like them.

And what if someone is fat and popular (*gasp*)?

Not to mention that even if his clothes were less "cool" and therefore less expensive, if he included more sizes, he could probably sell twice as many of them anyway.

So I don't see the point in only carrying small sizes in an effort to exclude "uncool" people. And I definitely don't see the point in being a jerk to people who are bigger than a small size. It almost makes me want to buy a bunch of A&F stuff from a thrift store (so that he doesn't profit off it) and wear it around with my ugly mug to lower his "cool" value.


I agree, also is A &F still considered cool? Like I know it was in like 2009 but the only people I see wearing their clothes are either total assholes or bought the shirt at a thrift shop and is wearing it as pajamas.

And I wasn't popular in school but I was well known and liked by popular kids and I am plus sized. Just cause someone is a a size 2 doesn't make them cool and just because someone is a size 20 doesn't make them a loser.
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:37 am


Guy Gives Abercrombie & Fitch A Brand Readjustment By Giving Their Clothes To The Homeless (VIDEO)
05/14/2013

"In response to Abercrombie & Fitch CEO Mike Jeffries not wanting "not so cool" kids or women who wear size large to wear his company's clothes, Greg Karber has come up with a funny and creative way to readjust the Abercrombie & Fitch brand.

He's giving their clothes to the homeless.

After scouring his local thrift shop's "douchebag section," Karber heads to LA's Skid Row to dole out the clothes among the homeless population. Watch the stunt and find out how you can be involved in one man's troll-job on a company with some pretty unflattering business practices in the video above."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/abercrombie-and-fitch-homeless-brand-readjustment_n_3272498.html
(Click the link to watch the video)

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