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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:13 pm
now, I've been a Polyamorous person by nature, pretty much all my life I think. I didn't start dating until I was 16, and even then I was naive about it. and I kept finding myself cheating on any significant others I had because I couldn't help falling in love with more than one person and not being able to handle it. I was too young and inexperienced, I wasn't emotionally ready to know what to do.
I was 17 when I finally accepted myself as Poly, and realized that I just have to be honest and open about it. it was then that I had decided that it was best to only be romantically involved with other Polies. it could never work out between me and anyone monogamous, because I would always panic if expectations of exclusivity were placed on me. I've been known to leave people on the grounds of my fear alone.
but recently, I had been set up with someone who was very monogamous... and I fell for him very quickly. it was around the same time that my relationship with my Mistress which had been very limited due to on-off situations) had been repaired and I she and I were lovers once again. she was the one who set him and me up.
I was terrified, realy... I knew what my fears were, and doubted that it could even work out. my Mistress was certain that him and I were great for eachother, needed eachother, and that though it wasn't a sure thing there was at least a possibility that it could work... and I trusted her.
in the end it came down to him dumping me (on new year's, of all days) because he couldn't stand that I was not exclusive. he wanted me to be his, he would verbally challenge my Mistress' ownership over me even. hell, he even felt he had more claim to me than my mom! eek
at this point, I feel as though my beliefs are reinforced, but I've heard arguments from other people (and read in this guild) that it's not true. what could be said to convince me that I am mistaken? I'd like to hear logical reasoning for why some people believe that Polies and Monogamous folks can be happy together.
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:49 pm
Mono/Poly, I never could get the hang of it with the ex wife. Felt like I was slamming my head with a brick. Didn't help that she would change her mind on almost a weekly basis on if she was ok with me being poly or not, often without telling me. stare But, that's a rant for another thread *points* I've heard of it working for other people. Both through here on Gaia and elsewhere. I wish I could offer more than that, but in truth, each relationship truely is unique. What works for one couple or cluster may not work for another. There are a couple of articles on Xeromag if I remember right on the subject of Mono/Poly relationships that were fairly decent. I'm about half braindead at the moment but I can give you a push in the right direction. (edited in URL for Xeromag)
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:20 pm
Yup, they can work just fine with an open minded mono person who understands the flow of emotional energy works differently in their poly partner. That is how my husband was when I first dipped my toes into polyamory, understanding supportive and mono. Then he dipped his toes in. Some mono folk can't grasp, or don't want to grasp the idea and philosophy of poly. Those people are toxic, that sounds like what you encountered Twilight. Edit: Rosie to the rescue I followed Saew's link and used my super awesome skillz to find poly/mono articlesMy other comparison is a tad outdated... Riri and Annette don't work anymore... as Annette isn't exactly mono anymore.. redface heart Well I guess to does work. Annette was mono and Riri poly. Annette didn't mind me.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:47 pm
thankyou both. I'm still not completely convinced that it's so workable -- so far, it seems like there are ALOT more problems than ways to solve them -- but I do feel like I am getting closer to understanding why this is, at least.
I'm going to keep looking around... and if anyone else has any answers or sources, please don't hesitate to share. smile
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:59 pm
I've seen it work- the relationship ended not over poly stuff but because one partner was an abusive a*****e, so it is possible.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:36 pm
Esiris I've seen it work- the relationship ended not over poly stuff but because one partner was an abusive a*****e, so it is possible. ?? you can understand why I'm not convinced, right? the only assurance I get anywhere are these vague examples.. and none of them give me any sense of it actually working.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:58 am
Chieftain Twilight ?? you can understand why I'm not convinced, right? the only assurance I get anywhere are these vague examples.. and none of them give me any sense of it actually working. Well we are just a small and random sampling of polyamorous people as a whole, being limited to those that use Gaia. I'm curious, what is your basis for "working"?
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:04 pm
Saew Chieftain Twilight ?? you can understand why I'm not convinced, right? the only assurance I get anywhere are these vague examples.. and none of them give me any sense of it actually working. Well we are just a small and random sampling of polyamorous people as a whole, being limited to those that use Gaia. I'm curious, what is your basis for "working"? as in... being honestly happy with eachother and devoted to eachother for at least a year... without the poly/mono difference being what causes a split if and when that happens.
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:40 pm
Chieftain Twilight ?? you can understand why I'm not convinced, right? the only assurance I get anywhere are these vague examples.. and none of them give me any sense of it actually working. And you know I'm not outing people online without their permission for a complete stranger, right? Chieftain Twilight as in... being honestly happy with eachother and devoted to eachother for at least a year... without the poly/mono difference being what causes a split if and when that happens. In that case- Annette and I count. cat_3nodding I have been with Annette for over 10 years and I've been poly for all of it, Annette was mono for all but the last 6 months.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:22 pm
Esiris Chieftain Twilight ?? you can understand why I'm not convinced, right? the only assurance I get anywhere are these vague examples.. and none of them give me any sense of it actually working. And you know I'm not outing people online without their permission for a complete stranger, right? Chieftain Twilight as in... being honestly happy with eachother and devoted to eachother for at least a year... without the poly/mono difference being what causes a split if and when that happens. In that case- Annette and I count. cat_3nodding I have been with Annette for over 10 years and I've been poly for all of it, Annette was mono for all but the last 6 months. is that so? smile I'm glad to hear that. could you give me some insight on what it takes to for that to work? leastways in your case with Annette?
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:13 pm
It has always been about love for a start, not about lust. I think that helps a lot. Annette isn't a very jealous person either. Open communication was important too- being willing to explain how we felt and stuff.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:07 pm
I think those are the two problems I keep bumping into -- always the first and usually both. iii-_- I'm so sick of people... women and gay men especially. stare maybe it's just the one's I meet, but it seems like nearly ALL of them just want shallow sex and lots of it, and none of them can stand me not being exclusively theirs, or leastways under their control.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:01 pm
Chieftain Twilight I think those are the two problems I keep bumping into -- always the first and usually both. iii-_- I'm so sick of people... women and gay men especially. stare maybe it's just the one's I meet, but it seems like nearly ALL of them just want shallow sex and lots of it, and none of them can stand me not being exclusively theirs, or leastways under their control. I find it is the pool you are pulling your "fish" from that tends to be the problem. When you have a s**t choice, even if you get a looker, they are still s**t. I would try looking else where for potential partners. I would also make it very clear you aren't looking for shallow relationships but long term relationships.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:29 pm
Blackrose_Knight Chieftain Twilight I think those are the two problems I keep bumping into -- always the first and usually both. iii-_- I'm so sick of people... women and gay men especially. stare maybe it's just the one's I meet, but it seems like nearly ALL of them just want shallow sex and lots of it, and none of them can stand me not being exclusively theirs, or leastways under their control. I find it is the pool you are pulling your "fish" from that tends to be the problem. When you have a s**t choice, even if you get a looker, they are still s**t. I would try looking else where for potential partners. I would also make it very clear you aren't looking for shallow relationships but long term relationships. Sometimes the bait needs to be freshened up too.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:21 pm
Esiris Blackrose_Knight Chieftain Twilight I think those are the two problems I keep bumping into -- always the first and usually both. iii-_- I'm so sick of people... women and gay men especially. stare maybe it's just the one's I meet, but it seems like nearly ALL of them just want shallow sex and lots of it, and none of them can stand me not being exclusively theirs, or leastways under their control. I find it is the pool you are pulling your "fish" from that tends to be the problem. When you have a s**t choice, even if you get a looker, they are still s**t. I would try looking else where for potential partners. I would also make it very clear you aren't looking for shallow relationships but long term relationships. Sometimes the bait needs to be freshened up too. :nods.: aye, your both right about that. heh... but why should I freshen the bait? what's the point? I have no trouble attracting people, I just can't seem to find anyone who's able to keep up with me intellectually.
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